An idea for producing GP3

I've downloaded some superb tracks from www.gp2.com, and it suddenly struck me that the 'afficianados' who are willing to recreate tracks in minute detail would be the perfect people to design the tracks for GP3. After all, Crammond does everything in the game, with the exception of the menus and stuff, so it must get pretty tiring at some points. Papy have a whole team to do the artwork and design the stuff, so why doesn't Geoff get a load of guys on Usenet to do the tracks. Most of us would do it for free I'm certain. Well, I would! Any thoughts?

Geoff doesn't do it all on he's own, he has a team of workers, under his comand, though he does most stuff. The people who design the tracks aren't proffessionals, they are just people doing them in there spare time, like you or me. And I doubt they would do it for free. GP3 is reported to come out in December 1998, so I'll look forward to it, especially as it'll be the last! GP2 was mean't to be the last, but because of presure from the press they brought the launch forward, which is why it didn't get the weather, and comentary - not that I mind about the comentary. Malcolm Mitchell http://www.thepentagon.com/malcolm http://www.thepentagon.com/fantasyf1 http://www.thepentagon.com/formula1 http://www.thepentagon.com/football

Most of us would do it for free I'm certain. Well, I would! << I think its true that generally at least, and even more often than not, that the enthusiasts produce better looking artwork than original product manufactures. This does seem a bit odd as you'd expect the professionals to have more expertise, better resources, better/more hardware and software. Yet the amateurs still very often put the professionals to shame in this area. I thought that Pay did a short while ago advertise on this newsgroup for capable people with a demonstrated ability at making car sim stuff. If my recollections are correct then it would seem that at least one manufactor has already appreciated the talent in the sim newsgroups. Cheers. Phillip McNelley

If the people designing the tracks aren't professionals and they are doing it in their spare time, then they are amateurs. But if they are not doing it "for free", and are getting paid for the work, then they are professionals. Out for Xmas 1998? I'll believe *that* when I see it on the shelves!! :-) -------- > Geoff doesn't do it all on he's own, he has a team of workers, under his comand, > though he does most stuff. The people who design the tracks aren't > proffessionals, they are just people doing them in there spare time, like you or > me. And I doubt they would do it for free. GP3 is reported to come out in > December 1998, -- Regards, Bruce. ---------- The GP Legends Historic Motor Racing Club is located at:- http://www.netspeed.com.au/brucek/legends/

I'm confused ! (Not an unusual state I am told <G>) I was under theimpression that Geoff no longer had the rights to F1. I thought that the FIA had sold them to Ubisoft and that was the reason that GP2 was no longer being produced. Please tell me what I have missed. Ken Mason <snip.> GP3 is reported to come out in

Yes. For a fascinating description of how this type of approach can work, read "The Cathedral and the Bazaar" at http://earthspace.net/~esr/writings/cathedral-paper.html

> If the people designing the tracks aren't professionals and they are > doing it in their spare time, then they are amateurs. But if they are > not doing it "for free", and are getting paid for the work, then they > are professionals. LOL. I was wondering what you would have to say but this was a suprise! Yes, maybe he meant Xmas 1999? If not, Papy may be a little concerned! > > Geoff doesn't do it all on he's own, he has a team of workers, under his comand, > > though he does most stuff. The people who design the tracks aren't > > proffessionals, they are just people doing them in there spare time, like you or > > me. And I doubt they would do it for free. GP3 is reported to come out in > > December 1998,

Well, the most obvious reason is that the amateurs do it because they *love* doing it, while professional often do it because it's their *job*! Sometimes the two coincide and result in masterpieces, sometimes they don't.... JoH Please remove *anti-spam* from the email when replying. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= When everything else failed, we can still become im- mortal by making an enormous blunder.... John Kenneth Galbraith =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

comentary I thought is was late. I had it pre-ordered and had to wait about 6 months after the supposed release date because it wasn't ready. Geoff wasn't happy with it. --- Arthur

Even though they are a lot of great tracks done by these people, there are a lot of bad ones too. Most of them work hard and make a good job. It's not an easy thing to do accurately. --- Arthur

I think he means they brought it forward from when it would be released if it where finished. If they waited that long, we still might not have it :-)

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> >GP2 was mean't to be the last, but because of presure from the press > they brought > >the launch forward, which is why it didn't get the weather, and > comentary > I thought is was late. I had it pre-ordered and had to wait about 6 > months after the supposed release date because it wasn't ready. Geoff > wasn't happy with it. > --- > Arthur

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