GPL NEWS From the A-vault!!!!

In case y'all have not seen it, here is some GPL news that was posted at the A-vault.. Enjoy :) Sierra Sports To Include Famous Nurburgring Track In Grand Prix Legends Sierra Sports announces it has obtained the license to include the world-famous Nurburgring track in Grand Prix Legends, a racing simulation based on the 1967 Grand Prix Season. The first CD-ROM to feature the original Nurburgring, Grand Prix Legends is developed by Papyrus and due on the market this July. In 1967, Nurburgring was the ultimate challenge to man and machine, and the most deadly track in the Grand Prix circuit. The track, which once hosted 22 German Grand Prix and crowds of over 400,000, was abandoned after a 1976 race in which Grand Prix World Champion Niki Lauda was nearly burned to death after an accident in the Bergwick section of the 'Ring. The Nurburgring's 14.2-mile "Nordschleife" was the most complex permanent-use racetrack ever used in Grand Prix competition, and will now be available for the first time for racing simulation fans. With 174 corners, countless elevation changes, and a 1.4-mile long start/finish straight, the racing legend will pose a formidable challenge to drivers of the Grand Prix Legends CD-ROM. Some of the elevation changes are so severe that the cars can become airborne in several places around the circuit. From the Flugplatz to the Fuchsrohre to the Karussell, the Nurburgring has always required nerves of steels and a tremendous amount of discipline on the part of the driver. The 1967 Grand prix race distance on the Nurburgring was 15 laps, or 213 miles. Jim Clark's 1967 pole position time was 8:04.1, and Dan Gurney had the fastest lap time in 1967 with 8:15.1. A short (and much safer) circuit of the same name was opened in May of 1984. Like all racetracks included in Grand Prix Legends, Nurburgring will be represented in its 1967 format. Grand Prix Legends is a racing simulation featuring historical tracks, teams, and cars from one of the most dangerous and exciting years in racing history. The physics model in Grand Prix Legends allows cars to drift, "catch air," and interact realistically with the road. A demo version of Grand Prix Legends featuring the Watkins Glen track is available at www.papy.com. Some of the other legendary tracks included in Grand Prix Legends the historic Spa, Kyalami and Zandvoort. Among the famous drivers represented in the simulation are Jack Brabham, Jim Clark, and teams like Lotus, Brabham, and BRM. Josh Taylor (remove "NOSPAM" from email to reply)

>In case y'all have not seen it, here is some GPL news that was posted at the A-vault.. >Enjoy :) >Sierra Sports To Include Famous Nurburgring Track In Grand Prix Legends I'm so happy! I think I'm gonna cry... A. Renault

>In case y'all have not seen it, here is some GPL news that was posted at the A-vault.. >Enjoy :) >Sierra Sports To Include Famous Nurburgring Track In Grand Prix Legends YES!!!!! Thanks to everyone at Papy (Dave, Mike, Doug) and all the licensing guys for sorting this out. If I'm ever in the region the drinks are on me. GPL was great already (1 week of play and I'm still learning to drive!), this makes it perfect! Alan Head =========================================== Grand Prix Legends Homepages http://www.gp-legends.com ===========================================

>In case y'all have not seen it, here is some GPL news that was posted at the A-vault.. >Sierra Sports To Include Famous Nurburgring Track In Grand Prix Legends I seem to recall a few years ago there was a video that featured a lap of the Ring viewed from an in-car camera mounted in a Porsche 956, driven by Jackie Ickx or Jochen Mass (can't remember which). Does anyone recall the name of the video or where it might be available? Might be a handy thing to start watching it now (again and again) to try and memorize the track. RP

>I seem to recall a few years ago there was a video that featured a lap >of the Ring viewed from an in-car camera mounted in a Porsche 956, >driven by Jackie Ickx or Jochen Mass (can't remember which). Does >anyone recall the name of the video or where it might be available? >Might be a handy thing to start watching it now (again and again) to >try and memorize the track. Its called "In Car 956", Bell is driving, Ickx passes him on the fastest ever lap round the Ring. Its available from http://www.duke-video.com (or .co.uk, I'm not sure...). Watching it as I post... Alan Head =========================================== Grand Prix Legends Homepages http://www.gp-legends.com ===========================================

Josh T. wrote : WhoHoo ! <bounce ! bounce !> Btw, what's the bizarre sound at http://www.papy.com/ ? Seems like a crowd. <bounce ! bounce !> Oh and I'm sure people will still whine because Monaco isn't in the simulator <gggg> LOL, 174 corners :-( Think about this people... The Karussel The incredible Hatzenbach corners ! (whoa this is the most technical part of the circuit. The Plantsgarter (Horizontal jump on the braking zone ! Brake before or after the jump !) The Kleines Karussel (Kink at the end of it, awesome) All those cool telephone poles, drain covers, bridges, etc... <g> Can't do 10laps without crashing at the Glen, so it's about 1 'Ring lap ;-)

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> In case y'all have not seen it, here is some GPL news that was posted at the A-vault.. > Enjoy :) > Sierra Sports To Include Famous Nurburgring Track In Grand Prix Legends > <snip> > With 174 corners, countless elevation changes, and a 1.4-mile long > start/finish straight, the racing legend will pose a formidable challenge to > drivers of the Grand Prix Legends CD-ROM. Some of the elevation > changes are so severe that the cars can become airborne in several > places around the circuit.

<snip> Doh! How the heck am I gonna memorize 174 turns??? I still struggle with 4 of 'em at Darlington! Joe.

Nrburgring -- sehr gut! Gott in Himmel! Praise de Lawd! BB

Well when I get a new job, this IS the reason to buy a new PC. I cannot wait. Thanks guys at Papyrus. -- Regards Glenn Beaumaris ------------------------------------------ "I believe in God-After All Helen Hunt Exists" =================================== The Quote of 1997: "The first thing you notice is her spirit and her talent, then her beauty hits you, and you're like, 'Well, excuse me, but she's gorgeous!' You don't even notice what she's wearing because her aura dominates. That's true style." >In case y'all have not seen it, here is some GPL news that was posted at the A-vault.. >Enjoy :) >Sierra Sports To Include Famous Nurburgring Track In Grand Prix Legends > Sierra Sports announces it has obtained the license to include the Legends is developed by circuit. The track, which accident in the Bergwick competition, and will pose a formidable challenge to the Fuchsrohre to the nerves of steels and a Nurburgring was 15 laps, or 8:15.1. A short (and much May of 1984. Like all featuring historical tracks, and exciting years in Legends allows cars to with the road. A demo version track is available at Grand Prix Legends the Jim Clark, and teams begin 666 Glenn Beaumaris.vcf M0D5'24XZ5D-!4D0-"E9%4E-)3TXZ,BXQ#0I..D)E875M87)I<SM';&5N;CL[ M2SH[.SL[.SM!=7-T<F%L:6$-"DQ!0D5,.U=/4DLZ075S=')A;&EA#0I!1%([ M.T%U<W1R86QI80T*3$%"14P[2$]-13M%3D-/1$E.1SU154]4140M4%))3E1! M,34Y/3!$/3!!075S=')A;&EA#0I"1$%9.C$Y.3<P.3 Q#0I%34%)3#M04D5& /,5H-"D5.1#I60T%21 T* ` end end

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If you're lucky, maybe nobody will come up with a GPL -> NASCAR III conversion utility. -Greg >How the heck am I gonna memorize 174 turns??? >I still struggle with 4 of 'em at Darlington! >Joe.

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snip > Doh! > How the heck am I gonna memorize 174 turns??? > I still struggle with 4 of 'em at Darlington! Just imagine the task of HOTLAPPING on this track!! ;^) l8er ronny -- Toys'R'Us '99: "So, would you like a hand gun with that action figure, kiddo?" |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

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> snip > > Doh! > > How the heck am I gonna memorize 174 turns??? > > I still struggle with 4 of 'em at Darlington! > Just imagine the task of HOTLAPPING on this track!! ;^)

LOL. It would take 6 months for the times to even out :) Shit, it will take 6 months to learn the friggin track! Now lets see. It took me about a week to properly? learn Mid Ohio - 10 turns. So, only about 4 or 5 months to learn the Ring. Ok!

Yeah! me too. Just one more is showily MONACO GP!!! Yoshihiko Minami

Now, how about an endurance sim with the Targa Florio (Piccolo Madonie Circuit -- only 47 miles!), then a recreation of the Mille Miglia! Wonder what it would take to code 1000 miles of Italian roads, villages, mountains, lakes... BB

Ditto! Actually, how's it going to fit into memory? And if it doesn't, does Papyrus have a foolproof background loading system that won't put pauses in our racing? Andrew McP

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>>I seem to recall a few years ago there was a video that featured a lap >>of the Ring viewed from an in-car camera mounted in a Porsche 956, >>driven by Jackie Ickx or Jochen Mass (can't remember which). Does >>anyone recall the name of the video or where it might be available? >>Might be a handy thing to start watching it now (again and again) to >>try and memorize the track. >Its called "In Car 956", Bell is driving, Ickx passes him on the >fastest ever lap round the Ring. Its available from >http://www.duke-video.com (or .co.uk, I'm not sure...). Watching it as >I post...

Alan - I checked out the URL and also found: RINGMASTERS German GP '67 [57 mins] 14.99 Could this be what I think it is ? Regards -- Neil Charlton http://www.charlt.demon.co.uk/ ICQ 7797673 --

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> With 174 corners, countless elevation changes, and a 1.4-mile long > start/finish straight, the racing legend will pose a formidable challenge to > drivers of the Grand Prix Legends CD-ROM. Some of the elevation > changes are so severe that the cars can become airborne in several > places around the circuit. From the Flugplatz to the Fuchsrohre to the > Karussell, the Nurburgring has always required nerves of steels and a > tremendous amount of discipline on the part of the driver.

That sounds AWESOME! When's GPL coming out? I gotta save up for my Voodoo2 card (and maybe a new computer!). Joe

>Alan - I checked out the URL and also found: >RINGMASTERS German GP '67 [57 mins] 14.99 >Could this be what I think it is ? Yep, if you think its a video of Hulme's win at the 'Ring in '67. I don't know anyone who has seen this, but I'm ordering at the end of the month when I get paid. Alan Head =========================================== Grand Prix Legends Homepages http://www.gp-legends.com ===========================================

Conventional wisdom (well Jackie Stewart anyway) maintains that its almost impossible to learn this track. Then again, he didn't have it on their desktop to drive whenever he wanted :) Alan Head =========================================== Grand Prix Legends Homepages http://www.gp-legends.com ===========================================

It is called "In Car 956". Derek Bell was the driver. It features laps of a bunch of tracks in a Rothmans 956 including the Nurburgring. I think Classic Motorbooks or EWA may have it. It's fantastic. Cheers. Joe >>In case y'all have not seen it, here is some GPL news that was posted at the A-vault..

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>>Sierra Sports To Include Famous Nurburgring Track In Grand Prix Legends >I seem to recall a few years ago there was a video that featured a lap >of the Ring viewed from an in-car camera mounted in a Porsche 956, >driven by Jackie Ickx or Jochen Mass (can't remember which). Does >anyone recall the name of the video or where it might be available? >Might be a handy thing to start watching it now (again and again) to >try and memorize the track. >RP

There are two new screen shots of this track at http://gpl.gamestats.com Thanks John

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>snip >> Doh! >> How the heck am I gonna memorize 174 turns??? >> I still struggle with 4 of 'em at Darlington! >Just imagine the task of HOTLAPPING on this track!! ;^) >l8er >ronny >-- >Toys'R'Us '99: "So, would you like a hand gun with that action figure, >kiddo?" > |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, > ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. > |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, > '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

July, 1998. > That sounds AWESOME! When's GPL coming out? I gotta save up for my > Voodoo2 card (and maybe a new computer!). > Joe -- Bruce. (At home)

>July, 1998. Thanks, Bruce. Should be some cheap P2 300s around by then, that'll go nicely with a voodoo2. Joe

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> > LOL. It would take 6 months for the times to even out :) Shit, it > >will take 6 months to learn the friggin track! > > Now lets see. It took me about a week to properly? learn Mid Ohio - > >10 turns. So, only about 4 or 5 months to learn the Ring. Ok! > Conventional wisdom (well Jackie Stewart anyway) maintains that its > almost impossible to learn this track. Then again, he didn't have it > on their desktop to drive whenever he wanted :)

I'm not suprised to hear this. Sometimes, at say Elkart Lake, your concentration can slip and it takes you a while to remember what part of the track your on and what to do next. I imagine that this will pretty much always be a part of the Ring. Something like learning one of those NFS tracks X 10. The mind boggles :)

"In Car 956"It is driven by Derek Bell, and although the circuit isn't exactly the same, it is much the same. The Flugplatz and the section by the pits is different.The tape has also got Kyalami:) Try www.dukemarketing.com or something. I know Duke Marketing are on the net! Matt

: I'm not suprised to hear this. Sometimes, at say Elkart Lake, your : concentration can slip and it takes you a while to remember what part of : the track your on and what to do next. I imagine that this will pretty : much always be a part of the Ring. Something like learning one of those : NFS tracks X 10. The mind boggles :) I now greatly appreciate how <shift-R> puts you back on the adjacent track, and not return you to the pits! Martin Nigel Mansell RIP!

: Now, how about an endurance sim with the Targa Florio (Piccolo Madonie : Circuit -- only 47 miles!), then a recreation of the Mille Miglia! : Wonder what it would take to code 1000 miles of Italian roads, villages, : mountains, lakes... This has always been a dream of mine. I would give up my first-born to be able to take Stirling Moss's place behind the SLR's wheel! As he once said [roughly]: It's one thing go fast round a corner in the middle of a field. It's another thing to go fast around a blind corner between a mountain and a ravine. Then again, it's another thing entirely to do this in the safety of your own home! Martin Nigel Mansell RIP!

OK...after the Mille and the Targa Florio,how about the Carrera Pan-America. My step-dad crewed the Fletcher Porsches in '55. I'd love to be able to race him one time on the circuit he has raved about lo these many years! And then there's the Pikes Peak Hillclimb...wouldn't it be a blast to drive one of those converted Indy Cars up Unser Mountain! Of course what we really need is time to drive all these cool new sims.... Don

Hey all you GPL fans, check this out!

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> <old stuff snipped> > Alan - I checked out the URL and also found: > RINGMASTERS German GP '67 [57 mins] 14.99 > Could this be what I think it is ? > Regards > -- > Neil Charlton > [link lost in import] > ICQ 7797673 > --

Neil, Yes it is what you think, the coverage of the 1967 German Gran Prix at Nurburgring. Thanks for the hot tip, I ordered my copy this morning. This should be great stuff to hold us over until GPL ships. Here is the long version of the URL, if that doesn't work 'cause of the CGI stuff just shorten it up a bit and you'll find the video- [link lost in import] Thanks again Neil, you have made my whole day. All the best, Mike -- Michael S. Davis Creative Media-Works Computer/Audio/Video Convergence "from Creative minds spring Creative solutions." http://www.creativemedia-works.com