Straw bales point--GPL

The straw bales don't act like straw bales in this sim. A car slamming into them might as well be slamming into an armco barrier. This is a very major problem because with realistic damage on, you are going to destroy your car by just clipping one of these hazards. The bales should be able to give way and cause mimimal damage, unless they are right up against the armco. Also, there are very little of these things around so in most cases you end up slamming into the armco. More bales, and those of the forgiving variety, are definitely required. -Mark

I thout it was a good point and I wanted more people to see it so I put it up front. Sorry if it affended you. you should also post it at the appex maybe you might get a response from mike.

Ummm, excuse me, but have you ever seen the result of a speeding Formula car hitting a couple of hay bales? Let me assure you that (a) they are not "soft", (b) they do not "give" as you would expect them to and (c) they were, in effect, portable "Armco barriers". If a driver travlleing at speed had a decent impact with a few bales, he did not necessarily jump out of the car, inspect the dented nose and, with a merry quip and a galant smile, leap back into his thoroughbred machine and roar off in pursuit of the competition. In a lot of cases he ended up in the ambulance or the first-aid station. There was no such thing as a "forgiving variety" hay bale.

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> The straw bales don't act like straw bales in this sim. A car slamming into > them might as well be slamming into an armco barrier. This is a very major > problem because with realistic damage on, you are going to destroy your car > by just clipping one of these hazards. The bales should be able to give way > and cause mimimal damage, unless they are right up against the armco. > Also, there are very little of these things around so in most cases you end > up slamming into the armco. More bales, and those of the forgiving variety, > are definitely required. > -Mark

-- Bruce. (At home)

And "Sorry" right back at you, mate! I wasn't offended; simply but bluntly offering an explanation. My apologies for the confusion. > I thout it was a good point and I wanted more people to see it so I put it up > front. Sorry if it affended you. > you should also post it at the appex maybe you might get a response from mike. -- Bruce. (At home)

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> The straw bales don't act like straw bales in this sim. A car slamming into > them might as well be slamming into an armco barrier. This is a very major > problem because with realistic damage on, you are going to destroy your car > by just clipping one of these hazards. The bales should be able to give way > and cause mimimal damage, unless they are right up against the armco. > Also, there are very little of these things around so in most cases you end > up slamming into the armco. More bales, and those of the forgiving variety, > are definitely required. > -Mark

Actually, let me make a point about haybales. This coming from a "haybale expert"! ;] If you've bucked as many bales as I have, you can accept my info as "professional hay advice". ;] Haybales come in 2 varietys, wet and dry. They are tied in several ways, wire-tie, string-tie, and I think they even have plastic tie now. Haybales in the "dry" variety are what farmers like...freshly cut, anywhere from 40-80 pounds, and make for great eating...if your a cow, that is. Haybales in the wet variety, no one likes. They are heavy, get rotten quick, and they just don't taste good! Especially if you're travelling at 150 mph in an open-wheel race car. Haybales of the wet variety can weight up to 150 pounds, and if you were to hit them at a high rate of speed, it's like smacking into water...it eventually moves, but it hurts like hell when you do it. Cheers! -- ??Jan Kohl?? **The Pits Performance Team** Computer Systems Programmer USAF Air-Ground Operations School Hurlburt Field, FL Castle Graphics - http://www.castlegraphics.com/ The Pits - http://www.theuspits.com/