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An Idea for brake peddals -- After GPL

6 posts by 6 people · 09 Apr 1998 - 13 Apr 1998

Thad Failor 09 Apr 1998#403642
First a few questions and statements? What did the actual brake pedal feel like when pressing down on them? Where they easy to push on up to a point, then get harder to push? For instance, In my car (and I know it is not a GP car) when I press on the brake, I usually go to the same spot for light braking. From that point on the pedal, there is less resistance to me pressing on it. If I have to brake harder then I push harder on the brake pedal, thus going into a noticeably stiffer section of the pedals travel. You might have to go experiment to see what I am talking about. I made my own gas&brake pedals. The problem with them is that the resistance is relatively the same throughout the entire movement of the pedal. As I see it, not a big problem with the gas pedal. I think, that having a pedal that has relatively the same resistance is not as, should I say, realistic as it could be. I work in building controls and someone once told me, "If the building design is bad, then it will make well designed controls look bad. Same holds true for the controls. If the control design is bad, then it will make a well designed building look bad." My big questions is this: Would making my brake pedal have a two stage resistance device make the more so realistic?
shred 09 Apr 1998#403643
how about a progressive rate spring for the brake pedal? there's gotta be a billion different rate variations available.... shred
JulianDat 09 Apr 1998#403644
Uhh.. The ECCI CDS5000 models this with variable air pressure on the brake pedal . take care.. jd ------------------------------------------------------------------ Hungry for NEWSGROUPS??? USE feedME.ORG Read and Post to 30,000 groups through feedME.ORG FREE FREE FREE http://www.feedME.ORG FREE FREE FREE ------------------------------------------------------------------
Guy Leach 10 Apr 1998#403840
This could be achieved by using either air pressure or the easier way(I presume)a big *** bush behind the pedal which would get harder to push the further you pressed against it. Enough Rambling. See Ya
Quoted text (21 lines)> First a few questions and statements? > What did the actual brake pedal feel like when pressing down on them? Where > they easy to push on up to a point, then get harder to push? For instance, > In my car (and I know it is not a GP car) when I press on the brake, I > usually go to the same spot for light braking. From that point on the > pedal, there is less resistance to me pressing on it. If I have to brake > harder then I push harder on the brake pedal, thus going into a noticeably > stiffer section of the pedals travel. You might have to go experiment to > see what I am talking about. > I made my own gas&brake pedals. The problem with them is that the > resistance is relatively the same throughout the entire movement of the > pedal. As I see it, not a big problem with the gas pedal. I think, that > having a pedal that has relatively the same resistance is not as, should I > say, realistic as it could be. I work in building controls and someone once > told me, "If the building design is bad, then it will make well designed > controls look bad. Same holds true for the controls. If the control design > is bad, then it will make a well designed building look bad." My big > questions is this: Would making my brake pedal have a two stage resistance > device make the more so realistic?
>First a few questions and statements? >What did the actual brake pedal feel like when pressing down on them? Where >they easy to push on up to a point, then get harder to push? Would making my brake pedal have a two stage resistance device make the more so realistic? Race car brake pedal feel depends on the type of brakes used. Most modern formula car brakes have less than an inch of travel and can feel very solid like your pressing on something that can't move. I made my own pedals using bump *** stops from shock absorbers on the brake pedal. The problem with this is that it only increases braking with a lot of pedal movement. A real race car pedal can increase pressure to the brakes with very little pedal movement. To really simulate this you need a hydraulic or air pressure system with an electrical pressure sensor. I am considering using a real brake master cylinder and a pressure sensor from an electric oil gauge. Good luck :-) D Sport Racer #74
Trips 13 Apr 1998#404519
Quoted text (17 lines)> >First a few questions and statements? > >What did the actual brake pedal feel like when pressing down on them? Where > >they easy to push on up to a point, then get harder to push? Would > making my > brake pedal have a two stage resistance device make the more so realistic? > Race car brake pedal feel depends on the type of brakes used. > Most modern formula car brakes have less than an inch of travel > and can feel very solid like your pressing on something that can't move. > I made my own pedals using bump *** stops from shock absorbers > on the brake pedal. The problem with this is that it only increases braking > with a lot of pedal movement. A real race car pedal can increase pressure > to the brakes with very little pedal movement. To really simulate this you > need a hydraulic or air pressure system with an electrical pressure sensor. > I am considering using a real brake master cylinder and a pressure sensor > from an electric oil gauge.
You might want to look into strain guages... they measure how hard you're pressing rather than how far your pressing. might be just the thing for brakes. Trips

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