GPL: Congratulations, Papyrus!

After a fast download, everything installed perfectly, and functioned beautifully! This sim will be the landmark of those to come for a while. I can only dream of what the guys at Papyrus are thinking of next.... The Physics are amazing, the "feel" is extreme. It is just how I wanted it; not to difficult if you are going slowly, but demands 100% concentration when going fast. I race in Real Life As Well, and, guys, it's getting pretty darn close..... I tend to get caught out by myself trailbraking (a bad habit carried over from GP2, N2, ICR2), which does'nt work to good:)) Even my diehard "anti-computer-games" dad, who was spectating those years, was very impressed. His only complaint was the engine sound at low RPM, it sounded like a US V8. But judging from my "Grand Prix" vinyl album, hi rpm sounds pretty good! I managed to get the car "caught" on the barriers once, the left front "disappeared", and I was stuck...but, I am planning to stay on track! All I can say is; I am getting this sim, I might even buy 2! Heck, to hell with the world for a day...:)) Matt -- Matthew Birger Knutsen Cheek Racing Cars (http://home.sn.no/~kareknut "Racing cars is like dancing with a chainsaw" -Cale Yarborough

Are these actually the final sounds, or are they still just "placeholders"? p.s. I'm at 87% download now :-) Steve

If their not final they should be Absolutly FANTASTIC

Well I've not been impressed by the demo so far due to a LARGE number of problems (probably with my own computer setup). However, if the Doc says its good- its good! :) -- Spudgun

I agree with the above opinions -- this is a GREAT job and a real step forward in racing sims. The driver's arms are not hokey at all -- they really add to the feeling. However, it looks like it'll take me a long time to be any good at this one; were these cars really this slippery-handling on the tracks of those times?? Maybe I'm over anxious, but just making it around one lap is an accomplishment right now! It is running perfectly on my PII-233 with a Monster 3D, except that my son just had a problem when he took over the computer from me (i.e., pryed the joystick from my grasp) and inserted a CD to run one of his games. The machine locked up in a strange way and we had to press reset to get it going again. No way to tell if it's related to having run the demo, but I'll watch to see if it happens again. -- Doug Gordon (remove "nospam" from e-mail address)

Those are the same sounds from the avi, which are placeholders. Those are the engine sounds from Nascar so thats why it sounded like a US V8. Kyle > > His only complaint was the engine sound at > > low RPM, it sounded like a US V8. But judging from my "Grand Prix" vinyl > > album, hi rpm sounds pretty good! > Are these actually the final sounds, or are they still just "placeholders"?

> Are these actually the final sounds, or are they still just "placeholders"? No....they have been taken from N2. Remember that what we have here is a pre-alpha appetiser! But it is the BEST pre-alpha demo that I have ever enjoyed. -- Bruce (Fyshwick) "I hate music, especially when it's played." (Jimmy Durante)

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> >I tend to get caught out by myself trailbraking (a bad habit carried > >over from GP2, N2, ICR2), which does'nt work to good:)) > >Even my diehard "anti-computer-games" dad, who was spectating those > >years, was very impressed. His only complaint was the engine sound at > >low RPM, it sounded like a US V8. But judging from my "Grand Prix" > vinyl > >album, hi rpm sounds pretty good! > >I managed to get the car "caught" on the barriers once, the left > front > >"disappeared", and I was stuck...but, I am planning to stay on track! > Well I've not been impressed by the demo so far due to a LARGE number > of > problems (probably with my own computer setup). However, if the Doc > says > its good- its good! :)

Yup:)What kind of problems do you have? For me this was my first non "Plug & Pray" experience, everything worked at once... I am running a 200MMX, 64 Edo Ram, An Iris 3D Mania (4 MB) coupled to an ATI 2MB 2D card, and a T2 wheel. If there are any probs, please post them here, I'm sure somebody will be able to help:)) Cheers, Matt -- Matthew Birger Knutsen Cheek Racing Cars (http://home.sn.no/~kareknut) "Racing cars is like dancing with a chainsaw" -Cale Yarborough

> However, it looks like it'll take me a long time > to be any good at this one; were these cars really this slippery-handling on > the tracks of those times?? They certainly were. Plenty of horses that kicked in with a bang. No downforce. I've found that the wheel/pedal combination has to be PERFECTLY calibrated and set up so that any pressure on the accelerator is smooth and even. -- Bruce (Fyshwick) "I hate music, especially when it's played." (Jimmy Durante)

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> I agree with the above opinions -- this is a GREAT job and a real step > forward in racing sims. The driver's arms are not hokey at all -- they > really add to the feeling. > It is running perfectly on my PII-233 with a Monster 3D, except that my son > just had a problem when he took over the computer from me (i.e., pryed the > joystick from my grasp) and inserted a CD to run one of his games. The > machine locked up in a strange way and we had to press reset to get it going > again. No way to tell if it's related to having run the demo, but I'll watch > to see if it happens again.

I too think this sim ROCKS!!!! And the arms are way-cool. But...I also lock up after exiting the sim. I just get a black screen with a movable mouse pointer and I have to reboot? Anyone know why? I'm running a P200 with Screamin 3D. Thanks, Chris

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> > However, it looks like it'll take me a long time > > to be any good at this one; were these cars really this slippery-handling on > > the tracks of those times?? > They certainly were. Plenty of horses that kicked in with a bang. No > downforce. > I've found that the wheel/pedal combination has to be PERFECTLY > calibrated and set up so that any pressure on the accelerator is smooth > and even.

Also, set linearity to full.

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> > I agree with the above opinions -- this is a GREAT job and a real step > > forward in racing sims. The driver's arms are not hokey at all -- they > > really add to the feeling. > > It is running perfectly on my PII-233 with a Monster 3D, except that my son > > just had a problem when he took over the computer from me (i.e., pryed the > > joystick from my grasp) and inserted a CD to run one of his games. The > > machine locked up in a strange way and we had to press reset to get it going > > again. No way to tell if it's related to having run the demo, but I'll watch > > to see if it happens again. > I too think this sim ROCKS!!!! And the arms are way-cool. But...I also lock up > after exiting the sim. I just get a black screen with a movable mouse pointer > and I have to reboot? Anyone know why? I'm running a P200 with Screamin 3D. > Thanks,

Might be that optimised controller option.

On Tue, 07 Apr 1998 23:39:15 -0400, Chris Rogers >I too think this sim ROCKS!!!! And the arms are way-cool. But...I also lock up >after exiting the sim. I just get a black screen with a movable mouse pointer >and I have to reboot? Anyone know why? I'm running a P200 with Screamin 3D. Try installing the Rendition reference driver from the Rendition web site. Eagle Woman Remove the spam blocker NOSPAM to email me. http://www.nh.ultranet.com/~alison/