AI in Burnout

I've yet to see any computer controlled car crash in Burnout. I've done a few myself, but are they really all that perfect? And I've changed settings from rookie to pro, and still they all make perfect runs... what gives? Pete Hawk

>I've yet to see any computer controlled car crash in Burnout. I've done a >few myself, but are they really all that perfect? And I've changed settings >from rookie to pro, and still they all make perfect runs... what gives? What gives, is that this is the #2 reason I returned it :-) #3 was the fact that you can build unreallistic cars. #1 was inability to run anything other than Sportsman class racing (even if it was headsup). -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

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> >I've yet to see any computer controlled car crash in Burnout. I've done a > >few myself, but are they really all that perfect? And I've changed > settings > >from rookie to pro, and still they all make perfect runs... what gives? > What gives, is that this is the #2 reason I returned it :-) #3 was > the fact that you can build unreallistic cars. #1 was inability to run > anything other than Sportsman class racing (even if it was headsup). > -- > Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

Greg, looks like even more flaws in this "Sim"?<g>! Trev

I have had Burnout for over a week now and I have seen The AI cars redlight more than once. I don't think I have seen any accidents playing on 100%, but accidents are not that common. I haven't actually ran against the AI that much, since I have been having such a great time playing on Kali. Kyle > > >I've yet to see any computer controlled car crash in Burnout. I've done a > > >few myself, but are they really all that perfect? And I've changed > > settings > > >from rookie to pro, and still they all make perfect runs... what gives? > > What gives, is that this is the #2 reason I returned it :-)

I too have seen them redlight, but I'm only referring to actual crashes... Pete

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>I have had Burnout for over a week now and I have seen The AI cars >redlight more than once. I don't think I have seen any accidents playing >on 100%, but accidents are not that common. I haven't actually ran >against the AI that much, since I have been having such a great time >playing on Kali. >Kyle >> > >I've yet to see any computer controlled car crash in Burnout. I've

done a >> > >few myself, but are they really all that perfect? And I've changed >> > settings >> > >from rookie to pro, and still they all make perfect runs... what gives? >> > What gives, is that this is the #2 reason I returned it :-)

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> I have had Burnout for over a week now and I have seen The AI cars > redlight more than once. I don't think I have seen any accidents playing > on 100%, but accidents are not that common. I haven't actually ran > against the AI that much, since I have been having such a great time > playing on Kali. > Kyle

Kyle, Have you seen any blown engines at all or other mechanical failures? Have you seen an AI smoke the tires during a run, thus losing? Have you blown your engine or had a breakdown? Can you run a season at different tracks with qualifying, eliminations etc? Is your car affected by changing weather conditions or other factors? Are the AI? Is there a driver cam replay of the pass you made? Is Burnout merely an online type game like CPR with AI thrown in as an afterthought? I'm trying real hard to find enough good in this "game" to make it worth spending the money on but so far I dont see a lot. I like the idea of drag sims but Burnout doesnt seem to be that good from what I read so far. NHRA Drag Racing is stictly Pro categories so it would be nice to have a sim of all classes as well, maybe version 2? Trev

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>> I have had Burnout for over a week now and I have seen The AI cars >> redlight more than once. I don't think I have seen any accidents playing >> on 100%, but accidents are not that common. I haven't actually ran >> against the AI that much, since I have been having such a great time >> playing on Kali. >> Kyle >Kyle, >Have you seen any blown engines at all or other mechanical failures?

yes yes most definately wouldn't know I don't mAake passes I'm always infront :) Runs great and I have fun with it offline,but ofcourse it's better online Well Trev I have called 2 EB's,3 circuit citys,2 Best Buys,3 computer citys in my little rural area of Polk County FL. aand guess what they have all sold out of burnout within a week of the date they received the game you can not find the game in my area right now because there is none left right now.Seems to be doing pretty well to me and SHRA has over 300 members now and going more and more everyday since the release date.Hopefully NHRA will do this well in such a short period of time. Robert "GT86" Platts BlackHole MotorSports

>Have you seen any blown engines at all or other mechanical failures? Unfortunately for me!! ;) Unfortunately for them!! ;) You bet!! :) Yes indeed!! ;) It sure is!! They sure are!! ;) ;( No***pit view, if thats what you mean. Nope. But it came with X-Car for free!!! Sorry, I don't understand this run-on sentence!! ;)

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> >Have you seen any blown engines at all or other mechanical failures? > Unfortunately for me!! ;) > >Have you seen an AI smoke the tires during a run, thus losing? > Unfortunately for them!! ;) > >Have you blown your engine or had a breakdown? > You bet!! :) > >Can you run a season at different tracks with qualifying, eliminations > >etc? > Yes indeed!! ;) > >Is your car affected by changing weather conditions or other factors? > >Are the AI? > It sure is!! They sure are!! ;) > >Is there a driver cam replay of the pass you made? > ;( No***pit view, if thats what you mean. > >Is Burnout merely an online type game like CPR with AI thrown in as an > >afterthought? > Nope. > >I'm trying real hard to find enough good in this "game" to make it worth > >spending the money on but so far I dont see a lot. I like the idea of > >drag sims but Burnout doesnt seem to be that good from what I read so far. > But it came with X-Car for free!!! > >NHRA Drag Racing is stictly Pro categories so it would be nice to have a > >sim of all classes as well, maybe version 2? > >Trev > Sorry, I don't understand this run-on sentence!! ;)

Thanks a lot for the help, you've convinced me that Burnout is everything I have ever wanted in a sim, I'll run out and buy it immediately. What sold me is the fact that you get X Car for free :) Trev

You mean to tell me you are doing all this whining about what is wrong with Burnout and you didn't even buy the game to see what it really is like. Your opinions are starting to sound as if you have a personal vendetta against Bethesda and not based on your actual running of the software. What seems to be your problem? Bob Pohl <snip>

I guess I'll have to put the time in. I've been playing it a lot and enjoying the heck out of it :) It really is fun. I've been putting my best funny car setup in other cars (like the Burnout Nova) and it's just so cool how that thing get's airborne after doing MAJOR wheelies! I love it... I had a dragster flying through the air sideways and it flipped over 9 TIMES!!! (like a plane doing aileron rolls). But still no AI car crashes yet... is there a certain setting I need to have set? I've tried rookie, between rookie and pro, and pro. Pete Hawk >> I've yet to see any computer controlled car crash in Burnout. I've done a >> few myself, but are they really all that perfect? And I've changed settings

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>> from rookie to pro, and still they all make perfect runs... what gives? >> Pete Hawk >I have seen them, redlight, crash, smoke the tires, blow up.. >------------------------------------------------------------------ > Hungry for NEWSGROUPS??? USE feedME.ORG > Read and Post to 30,000 groups through feedME.ORG > FREE FREE FREE http://www.feedME.ORG FREE FREE FREE >------------------------------------------------------------------

> I guess I'll have to put the time in. I've been playing it a lot and > enjoying the heck out of it :) It really is fun. I've been putting my best > funny car setup in other cars (like the Burnout Nova) and it's just so cool > how that thing get's airborne after doing MAJOR wheelies! Well now this is interesting, Burnout must really be a serious sim, right? I mean you see a lot of Novas on TV set up like FCs right? I love it... I Now thats truly awesome, was your driver OK? Now you go and ruin it for me, you had me convinced we had a serious Drag sim on our hands and now you tell me that there are no AI crashes? I know that they do crash because I've seen the ads on TV for tapes of crashes at drag meets. Trev

He gets paid to knock burnout and promote NHRA. Isnt it obvious.. he does such a bad job id rather not buy NHRA Drag racing now. Him having to do this shows how much of a threat burnout is to NHRA, congratulations Bethesda. >You mean to tell me you are doing all this whining about what is wrong with >Burnout and you didn't even buy the game to see what it really is like. Your >opinions are starting to sound as if you have a personal vendetta against >Bethesda and not based on your actual running of the software. What seems to be

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>your problem? >Bob Pohl ><snip> >> Thanks a lot for the help, you've convinced me that Burnout is >> everything I have ever wanted in a sim, I'll run out and buy it >> immediately. >> What sold me is the fact that you get X Car for free :) >> Trev

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> I have had Burnout for over a week now and I have seen The AI cars > redlight more than once. I don't think I have seen any accidents playing > on 100%, but accidents are not that common. I haven't actually ran > against the AI that much, since I have been having such a great time > playing on Kali. > Kyle > > > >I've yet to see any computer controlled car crash in Burnout. I've done a > > > >few myself, but are they really all that perfect? And I've changed > > > settings > > > >from rookie to pro, and still they all make perfect runs... what gives? > > > What gives, is that this is the #2 reason I returned it :-)

Playing on Kali? How good is this? It seems to me that with differences in latency, drag races would be useless. I dont have the game, I love the idea. -- Please respond by E-mail. This newsgroup is hard to keep up with. - Jeff D. Garant - Ford Motor Credit - Systems Analyst -

You Are A TOOL Trevor >> I guess I'll have to put the time in. I've been playing it a lot and >> enjoying the heck out of it :) It really is fun. I've been putting my best >> funny car setup in other cars (like the Burnout Nova) and it's just so cool

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>> how that thing get's airborne after doing MAJOR wheelies! >Well now this is interesting, Burnout must really be a serious sim, >right? I mean you see a lot of Novas on TV set up like FCs right? > I love it... I >> had a dragster flying through the air sideways and it flipped over 9 >> TIMES!!! (like a plane doing aileron rolls). >Now thats truly awesome, was your driver OK? >> But still no AI car crashes yet... is there a certain setting I need to

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>> set? I've tried rookie, between rookie and pro, and pro. >Now you go and ruin it for me, you had me convinced we had a serious >Drag sim on our hands and now you tell me that there are no AI crashes? >I know that they do crash because I've seen the ads on TV for tapes of >crashes at drag meets. >Trev

> You Are A TOOL Trevor Why, thank you very much :)! Trev