will nascar3 be dos or win95?

I heard an interview that Papyrus may support direct3d in addition to native 3dfx and rendition support. Does this mean that N3 is going to be a win95 app?

According to C|Net it does require W95 (retch) MW

According to GameCenter,it will be a Windows 95,3D accelerated only maybe

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>Quite possibly Win98. >-- >Regards >Glenn Beaumaris >------------------------------------------ >"I believe in God-After All Helen Hunt Exists" >=================================== >The Quote of 1997: >"The first thing you notice is her spirit and her talent, then her beauty >hits you, and you're like, 'Well, excuse me, but she's gorgeous!' You

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>even notice what she's wearing because her aura dominates. That's true >style." >>According to C|Net it does require W95 (retch) >>MW

Yes it will. Gamecenter.com has a huge preview article on Nascar3 and pretty cool screenshots!!!!!!

% Quite possibly Win98. Let's hope not! My jury is still out on Win98. I am not sure I am ready to turn my OS into a browser. Basically the good points that I have been able to gather about Win98 is support for USB, multiple video cards, and FAT-32. I'm not ready to have my OS be IE4.x -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Judging from what I have seen - they are backing off on this a little bit. I think there will be a web and a non-web mode. /TomH

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>% Quite possibly Win98. >Let's hope not! My jury is still out on Win98. I am not sure I am >ready to turn my OS into a browser. Basically the good points that I >have been able to gather about Win98 is support for USB, multiple video >cards, and FAT-32. I'm not ready to have my OS be IE4.x >-- >**************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* > Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

It always was a choice. -- [PC2] 2nd Lt. Dark Phoenix Join the world's best CO-OP clan! http://www.globalserve.net/~goldenhawk/quake2/ ICQ # 5905329 >Judging from what I have seen - they are backing off on this a little bit. >I think there will be a web and a non-web mode. >/TomH

You don't have to turn it into a browser. thought it's great, why wouldn't you want to? -- [PC2] 2nd Lt. Dark Phoenix Join the world's best CO-OP clan! http://www.globalserve.net/~goldenhawk/quake2/ ICQ # 5905329 >% Quite possibly Win98. >Let's hope not! My jury is still out on Win98. I am not sure I am >ready to turn my OS into a browser. Basically the good points that I >have been able to gather about Win98 is support for USB, multiple video >cards, and FAT-32. I'm not ready to have my OS be IE4.x >-- >**************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* > Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

An answer to the question, "Will Nascar3 be dos or win95"? Yes it will-- sheesh. Anyway, an inept question as it is-- is anything made now that is just for DOS and not for Win95? Where ya been, buddy? Alanb

> You don't have to turn it into a browser. thought it's great, why wouldn't > you want to? Because I'm a Netscape follower... l8er ronny -- |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

% You don't have to turn it into a browser. thought it's great, why wouldn't % you want to? You may not have to make the settings in Win98 "look" like a browser, but the OS is written like a browser whether it "looks" like one or not. I'm from the old school and still work in a unix shell. This browser approach thing is actually a little "insulting" to my intelligence. Duh, let's make an OS act just like the one thing most people now associate with a computer, a browser. That's creating an OS for the lowest common denominator. Besides, the "browser" approach to Win98 has a "Dark Side" element as well, which I don't care for either. % >% Quite possibly Win98. % > % >Let's hope not! My jury is still out on Win98. I am not sure I am % >ready to turn my OS into a browser. Basically the good points that I % >have been able to gather about Win98 is support for USB, multiple video % >cards, and FAT-32. I'm not ready to have my OS be IE4.x % > % >-- % >**************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* % > Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. % >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, it was written: Well said.... Not to mention the fact that most games ( including simulation games ) run slow under Windows. And that "DirectX" is even slower ;-) and you have to buy new hardware or to upgrade just to make them run! Too bad there isn't a linux version of Nascar 2 ;)

% On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, it was written: % > % > You may not have to make the settings in Win98 "look" like a browser, % > but the OS is written like a browser whether it "looks" like one or not. % > I'm from the old school and still work in a unix shell. This browser % > approach thing is actually a little "insulting" to my intelligence. % > Duh, let's make an OS act just like the one thing most people now % > associate with a computer, a browser. That's creating an OS for the % > lowest common denominator. Besides, the "browser" approach to Win98 has % > a "Dark Side" element as well, which I don't care for either. % > % Well said.... % Not to mention the fact that most games ( including simulation games ) % run slow under Windows. And that "DirectX" is even slower ;-) % and you have to buy new hardware or to upgrade just to make them run! While there is a fairly large overhead to running sims in Win95, I wonder if the reason Papy is going this route has more to do with their new sim engine (a Client/Server model). I would think it might be easier for them to get this to work in Win95 over DOS. But I think the real reason is that they must follow the paradigm that no auto racing sim worth its salt can be released that will run to its maximum capabilities on hardware currently available at release date. ;-) % Too bad there isn't a linux version of Nascar 2 ;) Maybe I should have cross-posted this to one of the linux newsgroups. Imagine the sim engine that all of those linux hackers could produce! <G> -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Maybe to _your_ intelligence, but not everyone is as smart as you. Some ppl just can't figure things out. -- [PC2] 2nd Lt. Dark Phoenix Join the world's best CO-OP clan! http://www.globalserve.net/~goldenhawk/quake2/ ICQ # 5905329 snip

I discussed this with a couple of Papy folks that run linux. We concluded that it would be neat as an intellectual exercise, but would have been of no practical value. :-) ---Jim

To answer your question "Where ya been buddy?", I've been running Nas2 in dos. If Nas3 is truly a win95 only app, it means it is going to be a totally different game(code), almost all the code will be rewritten. Will they get it right? Will the setups from N2 work the same. Will I need an ES9000 mainframe to get a decent framerate?

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>Subject: Re: will nascar3 be dos or win95? >Yes it will-- sheesh. >Anyway, an inept question as it is-- is anything made now that is just for >DOS and not for Win95? Where ya been, buddy? >Alanb

% I've been running Nas2 in dos. % If Nas3 is truly a win95 only app, it means it is % going to be a totally different game(code), % almost all the code will be rewritten. I would think that this one is going to be "totally" re-written. % Will they get it right? Will the setups from N2 work % the same. Will I need an ES9000 mainframe to % get a decent framerate? I am hoping that N2 setups will not work! :-) This is going to be a totally different physics engine. There will be things to set up in the garage that you've never seen in a Papy sim (seperate shocks and springs, track bar, etc.). Besides, Papy has basically admitted that in their old style of programming, the "feel" and physics of their sims, was just to tweak until it felt right. Their new approach is to code the physics of the car/track and then plug in the variables (torque, weight, drag, traction, etc.) and actually model the car and track. This may be the closest we have gotten to having a true "simulator" on our desktop for auto racing. It'll be a long wait for N3, but thankfully this summer we get to try the "beta version" <G> (Grand Prix Legends)! Hopefully all we will need is a P5-166 and a good Voodoo or Rendition card to be happy..... -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

: I'm from the old school and still work in a unix shell. This browser : approach thing is actually a little "insulting" to my intelligence. A Unix hack, didn't think there were many of us left, doesn't surprise me though Michael. :) : Duh, let's make an OS act just like the one thing most people now : associate with a computer, a browser. That's creating an OS for the : lowest common denominator. Besides, the "browser" approach to Win98 has : a "Dark Side" element as well, which I don't care for either. Couldn't have said it better