I'm in Canada and never see this game in the store. Why is that? Am I
forced to pirate it to get a copy?
Flame warCanadian struggles to buy Richard Burns Rally
Poky asked how to buy Richard Burns Rally in Canada and whether he was forced to pirate it. Others pointed to eBay, budget releases and online retailers, but he rejected eBay and PayPal, and the exchange with Roger Longcock descended into insults and accusations of piracy. He eventually said he would buy a cheap copy from a UK store.
Automated summary.
On Mon, 19 May 2008 21:23:36 GMT, Poky wrote:
> I'm in Canada and never see this game in the store. Why is that? Am I
> forced to pirate it to get a copy?
I saw several copies at a budget price (3â¬, I believe) over at my
local supermarket (granted, it's in Germany ;-). Have you checked ebay?
All the best, uwe
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"Uwe SchÃŒrkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Loads on ebay,
http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=Richard+Burns+Rally
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> On Mon, 19 May 2008 21:23:36 GMT, Poky wrote: >> I'm in Canada and never see this game in the store. Why is that? Am I >> forced to pirate it to get a copy? > > I saw several copies at a budget price (3â¬, I believe) over at my > local supermarket (granted, it's in Germany ;-). Have you checked ebay? > > All the best, uwe > > >"Roger Longcock" <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:gRwYj.22956$[email hidden]:
> Loads on ebay,
> http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle
> =Richard+Burns+Rally
>
>
Yes, but I don't use eBay or have a PayPal account. After reading all the
horror stories about eBay scams and PayPal issues I don't want to buy from
there either. I do have an eBay account that I set up years ago but have
never actually used it.
Uwe =?iso-8859-15?Q?Sch=C3=BCrkamp?= <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:483288ad$[email hidden]:
> I saw several copies at a budget price (3â¬, I believe) over at my
> local supermarket (granted, it's in Germany ;-). Have you checked ebay?
>
> All the best, uwe
I guess they figured Rally Racing is only watched in Europe or what?
"Gumby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've bough loads of stuff and never had a problem. Never and a problem with
PayPal either. Personally, I think you're panicking over nothing very much
in the way of real risk.
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> "Roger Longcock" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:gRwYj.22956$[email hidden]: > >> Loads on ebay, >> http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle >> =Richard+Burns+Rally >> >> > > Yes, but I don't use eBay or have a PayPal account. After reading all the > horror stories about eBay scams and PayPal issues I don't want to buy from > there either. I do have an eBay account that I set up years ago but have > never actually used it."Roger Longcock" <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:BwJYj.28630$[email hidden]:
> I've bough loads of stuff and never had a problem. Never and a problem
> with PayPal either. Personally, I think you're panicking over nothing
> very much in the way of real risk.
>
>
Explain all the scam stories about eBay then? Did someone make them up? I
don't think so.
"Gumby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Oh yeah, all those scams about RBR, I forgot about them!
The golden rule: if it looks too good to be true, then it probably is.
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> "Roger Longcock" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:BwJYj.28630$[email hidden]: > >> I've bough loads of stuff and never had a problem. Never and a problem >> with PayPal either. Personally, I think you're panicking over nothing >> very much in the way of real risk. >> >> > > Explain all the scam stories about eBay then? Did someone make them up? I > don't think so.
"Gumby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I have seen RBR in a few WalMarts in Canada.
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> Uwe =?iso-8859-15?Q?Sch=C3=BCrkamp?= <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:483288ad$[email hidden]: > >> I saw several copies at a budget price (3�,�, I believe) over at my >> local supermarket (granted, it's in Germany ;-). Have you checked ebay? >> >> All the best, uwe > > I guess they figured Rally Racing is only watched in Europe or what?On Wed, 21 May 2008 05:40:16 GMT, Gumby wrote:
>
> Explain all the scam stories about eBay then? Did someone make them up? I
> don't think so.
Hm, the risk you're taking ($5-10?) could be offloaded to a mate who
could purchase the item for you and who uses ebay regularly. Should he
/ she get ripped off, you're out of $10; if it works, you'll be able
to enjoy the world's best rallye sim. Sounds like a deal to me.
Cheers, uwe
"Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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No, no, he's made his mind up. Wouldn't want him to fall victim to the world
famous RBR scammers, now would we? <ROLLS EYES INTO BACK OF HEAD>
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> On Wed, 21 May 2008 05:40:16 GMT, Gumby wrote: >> >> Explain all the scam stories about eBay then? Did someone make them up? I >> don't think so. > > > Hm, the risk you're taking ($5-10?) could be offloaded to a mate who > could purchase the item for you and who uses ebay regularly. Should he > / she get ripped off, you're out of $10; if it works, you'll be able > to enjoy the world's best rallye sim. Sounds like a deal to me. > > Cheers, uweGumby.
They sold that title everywhere, when it was NEW. the game is like 3 years
old now?
"Gumby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Uwe =?iso-8859-15?Q?Sch=C3=BCrkamp?= <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:483288ad$[email hidden]: > >> I saw several copies at a budget price (3�,�, I believe) over at my >> local supermarket (granted, it's in Germany ;-). Have you checked ebay? >> >> All the best, uwe > > I guess they figured Rally Racing is only watched in Europe or what?"Roger Longcock" <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:oWWYj.47462$[email hidden]:
<ROLLS EYES INTO BACK OF
> HEAD>
That's because you are probably mentally retarded.
<ROLLS EYES INTO BACK OF
That's because you are probably mentally retarded.
"PlowBoy," <[email hidden]> wrote in news:cGZYj.24$[email hidden]:
> Gumby.
>
> They sold that title everywhere, when it was NEW. the game is like 3
> years old now?
No, they didn't. If they had I would own it. I've never seen it at my local
Walmart either, or EB, or LD, or Futureshop.
"Gumby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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or the internet?
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> "PlowBoy," <[email hidden]> wrote in news:cGZYj.24$[email hidden]: > >> Gumby. >> >> They sold that title everywhere, when it was NEW. the game is like 3 >> years old now? > > No, they didn't. If they had I would own it. I've never seen it at my > local > Walmart either, or EB, or LD, or Futureshop.
"Gumby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Oh charming. Pick on some of societies' most unfortunate in order to make
your pathetic little point! I'm actually rolling my eyes because you're a
stupid little twat.
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> "Roger Longcock" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:oWWYj.47462$[email hidden]: > > <ROLLS EYES INTO BACK OF >> HEAD> > > That's because you are probably mentally retarded."Roger Longcock" <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:KygZj.3$[email hidden]:
> Oh charming. Pick on some of societies' most unfortunate in order to
> make your pathetic little point! I'm actually rolling my eyes because
> you're a stupid little twat.
>
>
No, you are roilliong your eyes "into the back of your head" because you
are (a)retarded (b) dieing from stupidity (c) a moron. Take your pick or
choose all three.
"Roger Longcock" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:IwgZj.2$jZ1.0
@newsfe05.ams2:
> or the internet?
>
>
Fuck off and die already. I don't buy anything via Canada's toilet. Only
online method for me to get RBR is via the US or Europe. If you know a
Canadian dealer that sells it then point me to it and I will buy it.
Still waiting for you to prove to me that you installed X-Plane in a
fraction of the time it took me. How many fractions of 6hrs. are we talking
about anyway? Until you prove what you say I am inclicned to think you are
a BS'ing cock sucker so stop responding to my posts and go find someone
else to harrass.
Gumby wrote:
Well get a copy from a European seller on eBay and pay via paypal and
get their protection.
This game is easily available!
>
> Still waiting for you to prove to me that you installed X-Plane in a
> fraction of the time it took me. How many fractions of 6hrs. are we talking
> about anyway? Until you prove what you say I am inclicned to think you are
> a BS'ing cock sucker so stop responding to my posts and go find someone
> else to harrass.
X-Planes went on in an hour and a half. Maybe you need a faster system?
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> "Roger Longcock" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:IwgZj.2$jZ1.0 > @newsfe05.ams2: > >> or the internet? >> >> > > Fuck off and die already. I don't buy anything via Canada's toilet. Only > online method for me to get RBR is via the US or Europe. If you know a > Canadian dealer that sells it then point me to it and I will buy it.
"Poky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I'm in Canada and never see this game in the store. Why is that? Am I
> forced to pirate it to get a copy?
Do you do a lot of pirating?
Roger Longcock <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:
> Well get a copy from a European seller on eBay and pay via paypal and
> get their protection.
Don't have a PayPal account and don't want one. Not after the "horror"
stories I have read of them locking people's bank accounts. Don't beleive
me? Look it up on google.
> X-Planes went on in an hour and a half. Maybe you need a faster
> system?
> Still don't believe you. I made a fairly lenghty post about it in the
flight sims group. I did need to update the firmware on my Samsung DVD-RW
and that has doubled it's read speed but even still, on a dual layer disk
DVD that is only 8X speed and X-Plane will still take about 3hrs. to
install. My cpu is [email hidden]. You can't even buy a faster cpu than that
and I doubt quad core will make it install faster. I posted a challenge to
you too so I hope you go read it and take me up on the offer. Thanks for
making me look into the issue though, would probably never have updated the
DVD-RW firmware otherwise.
"Roger Longcock" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:nHRZj.1734
$[email hidden]:
> Do you do a lot of pirating?
>
>
Nope. But I do sometimes download abandonware and if I can't buy RBR at the
store then it is abandonware by all definitions. The publisher makes no
profit from eBay sales so I doubt they care how I aquire a copy.
"Gumby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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You really should quit now, dude. You're starting to
look a bit pathetic. Nobody will ever answer any more of
your questions if you show your ass too much.
WS
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> "Roger Longcock" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:KygZj.3$[email hidden]: > >> Oh charming. Pick on some of societies' most unfortunate in order to >> make your pathetic little point! I'm actually rolling my eyes because >> you're a stupid little twat. >> >> > > No, you are roilliong your eyes "into the back of your head" because you > are (a)retarded (b) dieing from stupidity (c) a moron. Take your pick or > choose all three.
"Gumby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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AND he's a thief.
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> "Roger Longcock" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:nHRZj.1734 > $[email hidden]: > >> Do you do a lot of pirating? >> >> > > Nope. But I do sometimes download abandonware and if I can't buy RBR at > the > store then it is abandonware by all definitions. The publisher makes no > profit from eBay sales so I doubt they care how I aquire a copy.
"Gumby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Just checked and RBR is still available from online retailers. Your
definition of abandonware is also hugely suspect.
http://www.amazon.com/001ric-Richard-Burns-Rally/dp/B00068UXW6
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> "Roger Longcock" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:nHRZj.1734 > $[email hidden]: > >> Do you do a lot of pirating? >> >> > > Nope. But I do sometimes download abandonware and if I can't buy RBR at > the > store then it is abandonware by all definitions. The publisher makes no > profit from eBay sales so I doubt they care how I aquire a copy."Roger Longcock" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:oRh_j.11236
$[email hidden]:
> Just checked and RBR is still available from online retailers. Your
> definition of abandonware is also hugely suspect.
It's a valid definition for Canadians. I don't want a book about Richard
Burns!
http://amazon.ca/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/702-4085568-7733619?url=search-alias%
3Daps&field-keywords=Richard+Burns+Rally&Go.x=10&Go.y=12&Go=Go
"Gumby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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What do you mean, a book? I gave you a link to the RBR game dvd on
amazon.com
You said previously:
"Fuck off and die already. I don't buy anything via Canada's toilet. Only
online method for me to get RBR is via the US or Europe."
So see me link to amazon and get it there. Or would you prefer to steal it?
A quick seach for the game also turns up some European online retailers.
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> "Roger Longcock" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:oRh_j.11236 > $[email hidden]: > >> Just checked and RBR is still available from online retailers. Your >> definition of abandonware is also hugely suspect. > > It's a valid definition for Canadians. I don't want a book about Richard > Burns! > > http://amazon.ca/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/702-4085568-7733619?url=search-alias% > 3Daps&field-keywords=Richard+Burns+Rally&Go.x=10&Go.y=12&Go=Go"Roger Longcock" <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:4at_j.22111$[email hidden]:
> What do you mean, a book? I gave you a link to the RBR game dvd on
> amazon.com
amazon.ca doesn't sell the game, only a book about him.
"Roger Longcock" <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:4at_j.22111$[email hidden]:
> What do you mean, a book? I gave you a link to the RBR game dvd on
> amazon.com
The actual seller is http://nothingbutsoftware.com/ and not amazon.com.
I've already said that I am am looking for a Canadian distributor and not
U.S. or Euro.
"Gumby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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No you didn't. You can't even remember what you wrote last week:
"Fuck off and die already. I don't buy anything via Canada's toilet. Only
online method for me to get RBR is via the US or Europe."
So make your mind up!
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> "Roger Longcock" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:4at_j.22111$[email hidden]: > >> What do you mean, a book? I gave you a link to the RBR game dvd on >> amazon.com > > The actual seller is http://nothingbutsoftware.com/ and not amazon.com. > I've already said that I am am looking for a Canadian distributor and not > U.S. or Euro.All ya gotta remember on eBay is:
1. Check the seller's feedback. If he has a large number of
feedbacks and 98%+ are positive, then your odds of a good transaction
are good.
2. Check item location. Make sure it's not in China or something.
3. Check shipping charges, make sure they're not going to charge $20
or something.
Already have your PayPal account set up before bidding on eBay, and
be sure you set up PayPal with the address you want things shipped
to. PayPal and eBay sellers get cranky if you change shipping
addresses on them.
Other than that it's a piece of cake.
"Roger Longcock" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Come on, little bunny, I'm calling you out on this! Stand up and fight like
a man!!!
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> > "Gumby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:sGV_j.298171$pM4.89205@pd7urf1no... >> "Roger Longcock" <[email hidden]> wrote in >> news:4at_j.22111$[email hidden]: >> >>> What do you mean, a book? I gave you a link to the RBR game dvd on >>> amazon.com >> >> The actual seller is http://nothingbutsoftware.com/ and not amazon.com. >> I've already said that I am am looking for a Canadian distributor and not >> U.S. or Euro. > > No you didn't. You can't even remember what you wrote last week: > > "Fuck off and die already. I don't buy anything via Canada's toilet. Only > online method for me to get RBR is via the US or Europe." > > So make your mind up!On May 19, 5:23 pm, Poky <[email hidden]> wrote:
> I'm in Canada and never see this game in the store. Why is that? Am I
> forced to pirate it to get a copy?
http://www.mastertronic.com/productSoldOut.asp?pid=244&productLabelID=1
"jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On May 19, 5:23 pm, Poky <[email hidden]> wrote:
> I'm in Canada and never see this game in the store. Why is that? Am I
> forced to pirate it to get a copy?
http://www.mastertronic.com/productSoldOut.asp?pid=244&productLabelID=1
Trouble is that he won't buy anything over ta internet because of all the
'horror stories' he's read. So looks like he's been 'forced' to steal a
copy.
"Roger Longcock" <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:yCY_j.31699$[email hidden]:
"Canada's toilet" *is* the U.S., dumbass. I said I don't buy from Canada's
toilet.
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> No you didn't. You can't even remember what you wrote last week: > > "Fuck off and die already. I don't buy anything via Canada's toilet. > Only online method for me to get RBR is via the US or Europe." > > So make your mind up! >"Roger Longcock" <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:tBz0k.66286$[email hidden]:
> Trouble is that he won't buy anything over ta internet because of all
> the 'horror stories' he's read. So looks like he's been 'forced' to
> steal a copy.
>
I *asked* if I was forced to pirate it and didn't say I have done so - yet.
Still looking for a Canadian distributor.
"House Of The White Rose" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Not my fault you can't impart clear meaning with what you write. Did you
steal a copy in the end?
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> "Roger Longcock" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:yCY_j.31699$[email hidden]: > >> No you didn't. You can't even remember what you wrote last week: >> >> "Fuck off and die already. I don't buy anything via Canada's toilet. >> Only online method for me to get RBR is via the US or Europe." >> >> So make your mind up! >> > > "Canada's toilet" *is* the U.S., dumbass. I said I don't buy from Canada's > toilet.LOL
I love it.... you need to work in government.
If I understand, you are talking about being forced into breaking the law?
LOL
Plenty of options have been relayed to you.... if you CHOOSE to steal it
rather than take any of the options - then you NEVER really wanted any
help - you just wanted to PRE-JUSTIFY your theft.
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Let your rude, foolish, childish, obnoxious name calling begin. It hurts me
not.
"House Of The White Rose" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "Roger Longcock" <[email hidden]> wrote in
> news:tBz0k.66286$[email hidden]:
>
>> Trouble is that he won't buy anything over ta internet because of all
>> the 'horror stories' he's read. So looks like he's been 'forced' to
>> steal a copy.
>>
>
> I *asked* if I was forced to pirate it and didn't say I have done so -
> yet.
> Still looking for a Canadian distributor.
"Roger Longcock" <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:BoT1k.24459$[email hidden]:
> Not my fault you can't impart clear meaning with what you write. Did
> you steal a copy in the end?
>
>
Everyone up here knows what Canada's toilet means just as everyone down
there knows what USA's hat means.
"==--==" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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> Let your rude, foolish, childish, obnoxious name calling begin. It
> hurts me not.
Well, upon further reflection, I have decided that the five quid from the
UK is a good deal so will buy from there (thanks to the person who posted
the deal). Just need to find a couple more purchases from that online store
to make the shipping costs worth it. I've purchsed a game from the UK
before and never got dinged by customs like seems to always happen when I
purchase anything from you scumbag yanks.
I'm CANADIAN you shitwad....
And I wish you were not a representation of what a Canadian is. You're a
poor excuse for a human being let alone as a Canadian.
'nuff said
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"House Of The White Rose" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "==--==" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:Qie2k.10307$C12.4594@pd7urf3no: > >> Let your rude, foolish, childish, obnoxious name calling begin. It >> hurts me not. > > Well, upon further reflection, I have decided that the five quid from the > UK is a good deal so will buy from there (thanks to the person who posted > the deal). Just need to find a couple more purchases from that online > store > to make the shipping costs worth it. I've purchsed a game from the UK > before and never got dinged by customs like seems to always happen when I > purchase anything from you scumbag yanks.
"House Of The White Rose" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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But you don't give a shit about stealing other peoples' property.
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> "Roger Longcock" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:BoT1k.24459$[email hidden]: > >> Not my fault you can't impart clear meaning with what you write. Did >> you steal a copy in the end? >> >> > > Everyone up here knows what Canada's toilet means just as everyone down > there knows what USA's hat means."==--==" <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:BNk2k.10876$C12.9627@pd7urf3no:
> I'm CANADIAN you shitwad....
>
> And I wish you were not a representation of what a Canadian is.
> You're a poor excuse for a human being let alone as a Canadian.
>
> 'nuff said
Don't worry about it. I'm not a real Canadian so am not representitive of
you mamb-pamby bores. I just like to play one on Usenet.
