The key to improve your driving is to learn the race track. You have to
know in advance how the next corner looks, which gear you have to
choose, ASO. Listen to the engine sound to get a better feel for the
speed in the curves. The first laps you should slow down a little to
make sure you stay on the track. That makes it easier to learn it.
Turn on the Ideal-Line and try to follow it. I would turn all helps of
except of the one that stops you from spinning while you accelerate
(Don't know how this feature is called in the english version). Why?
Because all the helps are stopping you from getting a real feel for the
driving-model.
Put the front wing 9 steps higher than the rear wing for the beginning
(This is a good setting for getting a little better through the corners
without drifting too much). For example F:17 B:8.
Take your time learning the tracks corners and play around with your car
setups. Use the manual, it's not too bad.
That's all for the beginning, have fun!
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F1RS engine sound debate
A newcomer praised F1 Racing Simulation and asked for driving tips; replies recommended learning Monza first. The thread became a debate about the engine sound, with some calling it realistic and others weak, noting volume did not change with throttle. Replacement sound files and editing tips were shared.
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>I bought this game because all the praise it recieved from various >sources and also I need something to test out my new acquired >Thrustmaster GP1 wheel. Even only after a few days of play, I can't >say enough how much I love the game. It is only on rare occasion that >a game in whatever genre could possibly hit every note right, from >graphics, control, attention to detail, driving model, sound, you >name it. F1 RS just hit even single possible notes right in the >middle.Hi Guybrush Threepwood
Oh no
I would say drive monza. Learn that.
In F1RS I would say the most easy and
satisfing circuits are in no order
monza, spa(alot of GP2 practice here) and nurburgring
monaco is also alot of fun.
Well I start of on the easy setting then learn the track.
Once you know the track and can anticipate the corners
you can then turn the easy settings off and start driving.
A few simple things to do *for a short fun race* are to
stick the revs up to full(17500), put on D type tyres, put about
30 in the fuel tank, bring down the ride height to about 55(dependant on
the track), bring down 5th and 6th gears a few places and go race.
This is as far as I am with F1RS at the moment but I
have forced myself to race with antiskid correction off and all the
other stuff off except for the gearchanges cause when GPL comes out
you are gonna need to know how to drive!
Mark
: Thrustmaster GP1 wheel. Even only after a few days of play, I can't
: say enough how much I love the game. It is only on rare occasion that
: a game in whatever genre could possibly hit every note right, from
: graphics, control, attention to detail, driving model, sound, you
SOUND?? are you kidding?? are you sure you're playing the same game as i am?
The engine sound on F1RS is atrocious.. when you rev the engine noise while
on the grid it doesnt rev up smoothly, only does quantum jumps from one
engine pitch to another, its ok when your accellerating in gear, does
anyone else have this problem or is it just me?? this effect happens on
Formula 1 by psygnosis too.
also what version do you have, and is it the english or US version??
: I notice slight stutters when my R3D is set at 50hz, if I turn my R3D
: to 60, the motion is much more fluid. If you have a high end machine
what is R3D may i ask also??
Righteous 3D. Man, that's the first time I've ever seen someone ask what
that was.
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Hmmm... Relax yourself, he was just asking the question... I didn't know
either, So ?
Better to be a fool by asking than to don't say a word.
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>Righteous 3D. Man, that's the first time I've ever seen someone ask what
>that was.
>>what is R3D may i ask also??
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Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-)
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Excuse me for being provocative (I'm dumb speaking)
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>Hmmm... Relax yourself, he was just asking the question... I didn't know
>either, So ?
>Better to be a fool by asking than to don't say a word.
That's what my teacher always said. "What do *you* want, fool?"
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>>Righteous 3D. Man, that's the first time I've ever seen someone ask what >>that was. >>>what is R3D may i ask also?? >Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Sponsored by http://www.awpss.com/ >Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-) >Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. >Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) >Excuse me for being provocative (I'm dumb speaking) >--"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise >how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--Quoted text (7 lines)
> I'm a poor driver, on easy mode, I was dead last but I still manage to > run to entire 5 laps. Just on amature mode, I couldn't even finish a > race, is there any tips you could give me. I now try to concentrate > on one course only, seems like the suzuki is an easy one to start. > I'll like to hear how you guys improve your driving skill because I > figure not too many people get to drive a F1 so everyone has to start > from scratch just like I do.Actually I think the sound is great as well.....certainly it doesnt
sound exactly like a F1 Car....no sim will soon...but its no where as
bad as some would make out.
Pierre
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I find the sound in F1RS to be quite good. The best of any F1 simulation
in fact (IMHO). Actually I guess I am glad you were not the one in
charge of the sound for this game. Who knows what we would get :-)
The only problem I have with the sound is that grating downshifting
sound you get sometimes (not every downshift). All in all I find the
sound in F1RS a big part of the suspension of disbelief (or what ever
that is).
:-)
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: Actually I think the sound is great as well.....certainly it doesnt
: sound exactly like a F1 Car....no sim will soon...but its no where as
: bad as some would make out.
Not a sim, of course, but the best F1 engine sound I've ever heard
was on the Sega arcade racer "Super Monaco GP". It really captured the
low rattle that race fans hear most clearly during in-car shots. Whether
or not this is what the driver hears from within the helmet is another
matter, though...
Martin
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>>The engine sound on F1RS is atrocious.. when you rev the engine noise >while<BR> >>on the grid it doesnt rev up smoothly, only does quantum jumps from one<BR> >>engine pitch to another, its ok when your accellerating in gear, does<BR> >>anyone else have this problem or is it just me?? this effect happens on<BR> >>Formula 1 by psygnosis too.<BR> >I find the sound in F1RS to be quite good. The best of any F1 simulation<BR> >in fact (IMHO). Actually I guess I am glad you were not the one in<BR> >charge of the sound for this game. Who knows what we would get :-)<BR> >The only problem I have with the sound is that grating downshifting<BR> >sound you get sometimes (not every downshift). All in all I find the<BR> >sound in F1RS a big part of the suspension of disbelief (or what ever<BR> >that is).<BR> ><BR> >:-)<BR> ><BR> >--<BR> >Header intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.<BR> ><BR> ><BR>Quoted text (32 lines)
> >>The engine sound on F1RS is atrocious.. when you rev the engine noise > >while<BR> > >>on the grid it doesnt rev up smoothly, only does quantum jumps from one<BR> > >>engine pitch to another, its ok when your accellerating in gear, does<BR> > >>anyone else have this problem or is it just me?? this effect happens on<BR> > >>Formula 1 by psygnosis too.<BR> > >I find the sound in F1RS to be quite good. The best of any F1 simulation<BR> > >in fact (IMHO). Actually I guess I am glad you were not the one in<BR> > >charge of the sound for this game. Who knows what we would get :-)<BR> > >The only problem I have with the sound is that grating downshifting<BR> > >sound you get sometimes (not every downshift). All in all I find the<BR> > >sound in F1RS a big part of the suspension of disbelief (or what ever<BR> > >that is).<BR> > ><BR> > >:-)<BR> > ><BR> > >--<BR> > >Header intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.<BR> > ><BR> > ><BR> > I have to agree with papadoc and gcisko on this one. At first I thought F1RS > sounded a bit strange, I was used to the GP2 sounds. But when I ran the sim > during the OZ race I realized how close it sounds to the real cars. If > anything, a real F1 car has a more staccatto edge to it. The sim starts to > sound better the smoother you drive, give it time. It really helps to have a > sub-woofer or connect your sound card to your home stereo like I have! I hope > my new neighbors are F1 fans! > DonOne of the most striking things about my first races attended were the
sounds. Matter of fact I wasnt going to be able to afford going to see
my first Formula 1 Race because I was broke and the tickets were oh so
damn expensive. hehhehe....Well the first day of practice at Las Vegas
and Im working about 2 blocks from the track.....they started up for
the first practice and a chill went up my back....(turbo days)....and
I went and got my ticket....I will be extremely surprised when a sim
captures that....and I will be buying it. The sounds or lack of
were/are one of my biggest gripes with Indy Car...where is the
overrun..????
Pierre
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> Yeah, but the volume is not proportional to throttle application!
Frankly I haven't noticed. I guess I am too busy driving and thinking
how good the game sounds :-) I am constantly amazed at the amount
if complaints to the Nth degree we have here. I am totally convinced
that if the game were "fixed" as you would like, someone else would
come here to complain about something else. It never ends.
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>> Yeah, but the volume is not proportional to throttle application! >Frankly I haven't noticed. I guess I am too busy driving and thinking >how good the game sounds :-) I am constantly amazed at the amount >if complaints to the Nth degree we have here. I am totally convinced >that if the game were "fixed" as you would like, someone else would >come here to complain about something else. It never ends.Quoted text (12 lines)
>Frankly I haven't noticed. I guess I am too busy driving and thinking<BR> >how good the game sounds :-) I am constantly amazed at the amount<BR> >if complaints to the Nth degree we have here. I am totally convinced <BR> >that if the game were "fixed" as you would like, someone else would<BR> >come here to complain about something else. It never ends.<BR> ><BR> ><BR> >-- <BR> >Header intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.<BR> ><BR> ><BR>A very accurate description (the bed sheet and PA)!. Love the sound myself. I
still think, and I know up front that it sounds a bit "thin", that a World Rally
Group A Celica sounds very nice at decent revs.
Off topic I know but it seemed to flow?
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> >Frankly I haven't noticed. I guess I am too busy driving and thinking<BR> > >how good the game sounds :-) I am constantly amazed at the amount<BR> > >if complaints to the Nth degree we have here. I am totally convinced <BR> > >that if the game were "fixed" as you would like, someone else would<BR> > >come here to complain about something else. It never ends.<BR> > ><BR> > ><BR> > >-- <BR> > >Header intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.<BR> > ><BR> > ><BR> > NO SHIT! Just drive the thing and shut up! ( Just a joke flamers!) Jeez, there > is so much to like about most of the recent sims ( CPR excluded...) but there > seems to be an inordinant number of complaints. > Papadoc, I have to agree with you about the "sounds" of racing. I've been >*** around racetracks since I was a baby ( 40+ years) and the sounds of the > different engines always get to me. I have a stereo recording I made at Long > Beach during the F1 days just as the Turbo era was beginning, so you can hear > the 12 cyl. Ferraries and Ligiers, the Renault 6 cyl. Turbos, and a shitload of > Ford Cossies. I stick it in the deck every now and then to remind me what real > race engines sounded like! I think my favorite though is a normally aspirated, > full race Porsche flat 6. It sounds like someone is tearing a bedsheet in half > over a stadium PA system! DonQuoted text (12 lines)
>One of the most striking things about my first races attended were the >sounds. Matter of fact I wasnt going to be able to afford going to see >my first Formula 1 Race because I was broke and the tickets were oh so >damn expensive. hehhehe....Well the first day of practice at Las Vegas >and Im working about 2 blocks from the track.....they started up for >the first practice and a chill went up my back....(turbo days)....and >I went and got my ticket....I will be extremely surprised when a sim >captures that....and I will be buying it. The sounds or lack of >were/are one of my biggest gripes with Indy Car...where is the >overrun..???? >PierreQuoted text (21 lines)
>>> Yeah, but the volume is not proportional to throttle application! >>Frankly I haven't noticed. I guess I am too busy driving and thinking >>how good the game sounds :-) I am constantly amazed at the amount >>if complaints to the Nth degree we have here. I am totally convinced >>that if the game were "fixed" as you would like, someone else would >>come here to complain about something else. It never ends. >Well I'm sure people already know there are replacement sounds >available for F1RS in www.f1racingsim.com . Some of them weren't >working that great, but at least two of them were very good and worked >great. But I can't say the original sounds were that bad compared to >those replacement sounds I tried... >...BUT AT LEAST WE CAN NOW SHUT UP ALL THOSE WHINERS WHO THOUGHT THE >SOUNDS DESTROYED F1RS COMPLETELY. ;^) Just get your favorite >replacement sound if you don't like the original one. >*** >http://www.netlife.fi/users/ttammi/Quoted text (10 lines)
>These sound files are a waste of effort IMO, since the real problem as >I see it is the "texture" of the sound. There is no modulation of the >sound and nothing to differentiate an acceleration from a >de-acceleration except a change in pitch. A real engine has many >different harmonics that come into effect as the rpm's change. Also, >there is no modulation of the sound when going over bumps. The sound >is plain with about the same amount of texture as an electric razor. >Substituting sound files change the sound, but they can't provide >different harmonic content over different rpm ranges since that would >require a more elaborate design in the software.Excellent example shit I drove the hell out that.....damn. Wish I
could find it now....
PAPADOC
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> Ok, could you tell me which racing sims/games have these "different > harmonic content over different rpm ranges" well implemented as you > are racing, so that I can try them out? So far I've tried for example > CPR demo, TOCA, Psygnosis F1 demo, Ultimate Race Pro, Nascar 2, does > any of these have it? I can't say any of them have made me say "Gee > this is exactly how F1RS should sound". I agree the engine sound in > Ultimate Race Pro is more manly than in F1RS, but I'm not sure F1 cars > should sound like that anyway. ;-)snip
> I would think this would be very easy to patch and cannot
> understand why the haven't/don't. I emailed them about this and a couple
> other things and was told they are working on F1RS 2 and my comments
> would be forwarded to the team. Looks like support for F1RS ended with
> patch 1.07. I don't know that too many people will show a lot of
> interest in F1RS 2 since GP3 will no doubt be around by then.
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Man, you are an optimist... ;^)
l8er
ronny
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What makes you think the world is waiting for GP3, I surely am not. If you are
so critical of Ubisoft's first attempt at making an F1 sim (which IMHO waxes
GP2 easily), Why not compare F1rs to GP1 or World Circuit, by using your same
logic. Ubisoft's second attempt will be far better, and it will probably be
released before GP3. My bet is that GP3 will not even be any better than F1rs
(first attempt).
Anyone may disagree, but this is only my opinion.
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> snip > > I would think this would be very easy to patch and cannot > > understand why the haven't/don't. I emailed them about this and a couple > > other things and was told they are working on F1RS 2 and my comments > > would be forwarded to the team. Looks like support for F1RS ended with > > patch 1.07. I don't know that too many people will show a lot of > > interest in F1RS 2 since GP3 will no doubt be around by then. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Man, you are an optimist... ;^)>Ok, could you tell me which racing sims/games have these "different
>harmonic content over different rpm ranges" well implemented as you
>are racing, so that I can try them out?
He said "a real engine" not that another sim already did it better.
Just because no-one has done it properly so far doesn't mean that it
shouldn't be set forth as a target.
Quite apart from all that, the engine sound in F1RS really is weedy
and unconvincing in the extreme, and realy lets down all of it's other
excellent qualities.
Cheers!
John
>Quite apart from all that, the engine sound in F1RS really is weedy
>and unconvincing in the extreme, and realy lets down all of it's other
>excellent qualities.
Not surprisingly I disagree. I like the F1RS sounds (except for that
grating downshift sound you sometimes get). But I guess that is
the result of me not being a real racecar driver or something.
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If you don`t like the engine sound , then go to http://www.f1racingsim.com
there are plenty of new ones to chose from.
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>>Ok, could you tell me which racing sims/games have these "different >>harmonic content over different rpm ranges" well implemented as you >>are racing, so that I can try them out? >He said "a real engine" not that another sim already did it better. >Just because no-one has done it properly so far doesn't mean that it >shouldn't be set forth as a target. >Quite apart from all that, the engine sound in F1RS really is weedy >and unconvincing in the extreme, and realy lets down all of it's other >excellent qualities. >Cheers! >JohnQuoted text (11 lines)
>> > patch 1.07. I don't know that too many people will show a lot of >> > interest in F1RS 2 since GP3 will no doubt be around by then. >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> Man, you are an optimist... ;^) > Now Ronny, you know something we don't know? Got a release date on >F1RS 2? If they release F1RS 2 in the next 12 months they should be >hung. I say this because they should patch F1RS till it's perfect within >it's design parameters instaed of rushing off to start F1RS 2. But these >days, who am I kidding, hahahahahahahahaha!My ISP is really spotty sometimes, I can see your posts, but not those
that you are responding to, even though I see them in dejanews. Could
be because of the different international areas. So I'll respond to
ttammi via your post :)
While its irrelevant what other sims do, GP2 does provide different
sound samples for acceleration and de-acceleration. It also has the
sound modulated when the car travels over bumps or a wheel goes over a
curb. If I recall correctly, CPR also caused the engine sound to
reflect the bounces over bumps as well as having much different
hamonics at low rpm versus high rpm. But its been quite a while since
I ran the CPR demo, and need to download it again.
There is such a thing as a graduated scale between "this is pathetic"
and "this is perfect". I certainly don't expect perfection or an
exact reproduction (imagine having a real F1 car in your livingroom),
but it is possible to make a more realistic sound than provided by a
single sound sample. Apparently you and others don't notice such
minute detail, so it doesn't matter to you. That's fine, but you (and
others) should realize that everyone has different opinions, that they
aren't necessarily complaining, and that calling their discussion a
derogatory term such as whinning is uncalled for. Thats all I will
say to you about this.
Yes, I agree with the volume issue. But I am not dissatisfied about
what is lacking, just expressing my concern that more could and should
be added in future releases. If GP3 arrives first, then that is
great, I'll get it also.
DS
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>> Ok, could you tell me which racing sims/games have these "different >> harmonic content over different rpm ranges" well implemented as you >> are racing, so that I can try them out? So far I've tried for example >> CPR demo, TOCA, Psygnosis F1 demo, Ultimate Race Pro, Nascar 2, does >> any of these have it? I can't say any of them have made me say "Gee >> this is exactly how F1RS should sound". I agree the engine sound in >> Ultimate Race Pro is more manly than in F1RS, but I'm not sure F1 cars >> should sound like that anyway. ;-)Quoted text (7 lines)
>>Ok, could you tell me which racing sims/games have these "different >>harmonic content over different rpm ranges" well implemented as you >>are racing, so that I can try them out? >He said "a real engine" not that another sim already did it better. >Just because no-one has done it properly so far doesn't mean that it >shouldn't be set forth as a target.My Dollars worth.
I have MS Cart PR. I think it's sounds much better than Psygnosis F1 (twingy
like a bunch of sine waves).
In Cart, I notice gear shifts with a nice strong pop, you can hear the shits
pop HARD. Up shifts and downshifts reverberate good as you can hear the
harmonics and the gears. Don't get me wrong it can be muched improved.
Besides the sounds and
fairly good 3D, it steering can be somewhat whacky. I found some good and
extremely bad settings.
My comments:
Need for Speed2 ____
totally crappy, the car levetate from the ground and look cheezy.
The sound is not realistic.
Psygnosis _____
I thought the control on the track was pretty good.
Sound is a decent simulation effort.
Test Drive 4 ______
A Joke. I really expect some nice clean rendering of the cars. Not.
The sound is a step backwards from what I can remember from the Amiga
version.
I remember hearing Turbo chargers kicking in and out with the Amiga version.
The early PC versions
used beeps to simulate engines sounds (he he he). Today's version is not
good. But for those how don'y
understand the hollow sound of a Mustang with FlowMaster, cats removed and
an H-Pipe won't understand tuned exhaust
music.
UbitSoft's ____
I don't know. But I think I will be dissappointed if the sound isn't better
or equal to MS Cart PR.
Developer's, please do something with the engine sounds! Improving that,
won't take away from the experience of those,
who don't care.
Please, one more comment: In MS Cart, there is a slamming engine sounds. It
has to be sampled. It is the PACER car. To hear it best, do an instant
replay of a race. Then view the replay in Blimb View, you will hear that
sucker pumping as if someone stuck a mic into the exhaust of a 351 or 440
V8.
Jeff Spruiel
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>> Err, I thought that is the whole point. It isn't like F1RS is the >> first driving sim people have played, yet many seem to say it has the >> worst sounds of any driving game. I'm just interested to know which >> F1 or Cart game has done the best ie. is the very closest to the real >> thing. Some people have mentioned F1GP2, but on the other hand I have >> also read its motor sounds are completely artificial. Go figure, >> artificial motor sounds sound better than those recorded from a real >> F1 car? > To bad Ubi forgot to record the different volumes at different >throttle applications though. What a joke to go to all that trouble and >not even do that! Or at least "sim" it :)> I don't mind at all that Ubisoft is working on a new version of the
> game as I can understand the need to define a cutoff point after which
> any more work is considered a new product. And I don't mind at all
> paying $50 per year for a constantly improving and up-to-date F1 sim.
I disagree here. I think once every 2 years would be fair enough.
Also, it's been my experience with other products that major overhauls,
when needed, cannot be done in a 12 month period. This leads to a
product being flogged to death and just having selling points added and
the product gets old fast. In any case, if once/year I would expect good
discounts for owners of the previous version.
The most disappointing thing to me about F1RS is how good a sim it
is until you get off track. It then transforms from sim to kiddy arcade
thing in the blink of an eye. I just don't understand why they cut this
corner :) And added to this is the volume unmodulated engine sounds
which is also arcadey and this is even an insult to arcade titles. Also,
the failure to fix the D3D version is a disgrace. I conceed that I think
MS chose a bad API, but still, it's the std for 3D and should have been
properly supported. So far I have spent $300AUS for a Viper and never
use it thanks to F1RS and CPR.
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> Err, I thought that is the whole point. It isn't like F1RS is the > first driving sim people have played, yet many seem to say it has the > worst sounds of any driving game. I'm just interested to know which > F1 or Cart game has done the best ie. is the very closest to the real > thing. Some people have mentioned F1GP2, but on the other hand I have > also read its motor sounds are completely artificial. Go figure, > artificial motor sounds sound better than those recorded from a real > F1 car?Quoted text (9 lines)
> My Dollars worth. > I have MS Cart PR. I think it's sounds much better than Psygnosis F1 (twingy > like a bunch of sine waves). > In Cart, I notice gear shifts with a nice strong pop, you can hear the shits > pop HARD. Up shifts and downshifts reverberate good as you can hear the > harmonics and the gears. Don't get me wrong it can be muched improved. > Besides the sounds and > fairly good 3D, it steering can be somewhat whacky. I found some good and > extremely bad settings.>> I don't mind at all that Ubisoft is working on a new version of the
>> game as I can understand the need to define a cutoff point after which
>> any more work is considered a new product. And I don't mind at all
>> paying $50 per year for a constantly improving and up-to-date F1 sim.
> I disagree here. I think once every 2 years would be fair enough.
Well, if they do come out with a new version every year, then you can
just skip a version and buy one the next year, and everyone will be
satisfied :)
Valid point, but it does depend a lot on the resources that a company
has as to how often they can come out with a new version. And after
all, as long as it is still a F1 sim, its not like its going to be a
totally new setting. Of course a discount would always be appreciated
but some people spend $50 on a evening's entertainment, so for a piece
of software that I'd probably spend a 100 hours or more on, it seems
acceptable to me.
Agreed, but maybe they thought that it wasn't supposed to be an
off-road racing sim :)
The finite nature of resources would seem to explain all of the
deficiencies mentioned. Its evident from the reports of many
developers that D3D requires a considerable amount of extra work in
order to make it run acceptably on even the best 3d hardware
platforms.
D3D will probably be okay eventually, maybe DX7 or 8 :) Seems to be
quite adequate for alot of arcade shooter games (Forsaken, etc.) but
flight and auto sims seem to really stretch the limitations of even
the most powerful hardware on it. The primary goal of D3D is to
target the widest amount of hardware, which it does well, but at the
expense of not achieving as high performance as a native port. But
that is another topic and I really don't want to go there.
DS
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> D3D will probably be okay eventually, maybe DX7 or 8 :) Seems to be > quite adequate for alot of arcade shooter games (Forsaken, etc.) but > flight and auto sims seem to really stretch the limitations of even > the most powerful hardware on it. The primary goal of D3D is to > target the widest amount of hardware, which it does well, but at the > expense of not achieving as high performance as a native port. But > that is another topic and I really don't want to go there. > DSQuoted text (19 lines)
>If you don`t like the engine sound , then go to http://www.f1racingsim.com >there are plenty of new ones to chose from. >>>Ok, could you tell me which racing sims/games have these "different >>>harmonic content over different rpm ranges" well implemented as you >>>are racing, so that I can try them out? >>He said "a real engine" not that another sim already did it better. >>Just because no-one has done it properly so far doesn't mean that it >>shouldn't be set forth as a target. >>Quite apart from all that, the engine sound in F1RS really is weedy >>and unconvincing in the extreme, and realy lets down all of it's other >>excellent qualities. >>Cheers! >>JohnOn Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:17:01 -0800, "Jeffrey Spruiel"
>In Cart, I notice gear shifts with a nice strong pop, you can hear the shits
>pop HARD.
I'd recommend a few less beans and go see your family doctor
immediately.
Cheers!
John
On Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:41:41 -0600, "Greg Cisko"
That downshift sound is easily removed using a util such as Cool Edit
by editing the file in f1datab/resson/ called bnk_0.bnm.
Just replace the downshift sound with silence and you wont hear it
anymore. I think there's even any easier way but I've yet to test it.
The sound can even be replaced with that from GP2, if you prefer it.
In fact, someone has made the GP2 engine and downshift sound available
at http://www.f1racingsim.com/
Tony
