My big wish for GPL

My main wish for GPL is a simple one. I hope that Papy includes their own joystick configuration routine, instead of using Microsoft's Win95 routine. I own a new Dell running OSR2 and I've been unable to configure my ECCI wheel under games like CPR and Road to Indy. The only Win95 racing game that I've been able to get it to work under is SODA and that's because the included their own routine... Jeff Lipack

Sorry for the second posting, but my wife changed the identity setting. My main wish for GPL is a simple one. I hope that Papy includes their own joystick configuration routine, instead of using Microsoft's Win95 routine. I own a new Dell running OSR2 and I've been unable to configure my ECCI wheel under games like CPR and Road to Indy. The only Win95 racing game that I've been able to get it to work under is SODA and that's because the included their own routine... Jeff Lipack

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>Sorry for the second posting, but my wife changed the identity setting. >My main wish for GPL is a simple one. I hope that Papy includes their >own joystick configuration routine, instead of using Microsoft's Win95 >routine. I own a new Dell running OSR2 and I've been unable to >configure my ECCI wheel under games like CPR and Road to Indy. The only >Win95 racing game that I've been able to get it to work under is SODA >and that's because the included their own routine...

I agree wholeheartedly. One of the nice things about Nascar2 is that the joystick/wheel reading code works reliably and consistently, because it doesn't have to depend on the hopelessly flaky Win95 DirectInput code. If they HAVE to use the Win95 code, please at least put in sufficient workarounds (i.e., fully adjustable deadzone setting) so that all devices can at least use the game without jittering/shaking wildly. Joe

I also have a Dell running osr2 and dont have any problems with my CDS2 at all. It calibrates without a hitch in any win95 game so far. Do you have direct x 5 installed. I just followed the instructions that came with the wheel.

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>>Sorry for the second posting, but my wife changed the identity setting. >>My main wish for GPL is a simple one. I hope that Papy includes their >>own joystick configuration routine, instead of using Microsoft's Win95 >>routine. I own a new Dell running OSR2 and I've been unable to >>configure my ECCI wheel under games like CPR and Road to Indy. The only >>Win95 racing game that I've been able to get it to work under is SODA >>and that's because the included their own routine... >I agree wholeheartedly. One of the nice things about Nascar2 is that >the joystick/wheel reading code works reliably and consistently, >because it doesn't have to depend on the hopelessly flaky Win95 >DirectInput code. >If they HAVE to use the Win95 code, please at least put in sufficient >workarounds (i.e., fully adjustable deadzone setting) so that all >devices can at least use the game without jittering/shaking wildly. >Joe

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>My main wish for GPL is a simple one. I hope that Papy includes their >own joystick configuration routine, instead of using Microsoft's Win95 >routine. I own a new Dell running OSR2 and I've been unable to >configure my ECCI wheel under games like CPR and Road to Indy. The only >Win95 racing game that I've been able to get it to work under is SODA >and that's because the included their own routine... >Jeff Lipack

It would be nice but I really cant see that happening its a W95 game so will utilise it no doubt. My main wish for GPL is that everyone takes more notice of the things that are implemented in the game and not be so concerned about the things that are left out. Todd.

> My main wish for GPL is a simple one. I hope that Papy includes their > own joystick configuration routine, instead of using Microsoft's Win95 > routine. I own a new Dell running OSR2 and I've been unable to > configure my ECCI wheel under games like CPR and Road to Indy. The only > Win95 racing game that I've been able to get it to work under is SODA > and that's because the included their own routine... Have you ever contacted the manufacturer of the ECCI wheel? I don't have one but it's seems very unlikely to me, that that is impossible with such a quality/expensive wheel. In can configure my old T1 (one of the very first!) with CPR and it should be possible with an ECCI wheel ( I think<g>) Cheers! Harald

>I also have a Dell running osr2 and dont have any problems with my CDS2 at >all. It calibrates without a hitch in any win95 game so far. Do you have >direct x 5 installed. I just followed the instructions that came with the >wheel. Yes, DX5, ProPanel, CTFJ utility deadzone utility, everyuthing else I can find to make it calibrate the wheel smoothly (i.e., without jitters). Nothing works. I finally bought an [optical] Microsoft joystick, so at least that works smoothly because it's non-calibrating. But that doesn't help my T2 wheel. It's just a standard Soundblaster16 gameport I'm plugging into. Everything else is very generic too - Intel P200, Intel mobo, WD IDE hard drives, etc. BTW, this (the SB 16) is the third different gameport I've had on this system, and all had the calibration problems - but only under Win95. DOS programs have always worked fine. Joe

Yes! I agree too! NASCAR2 and SODA 's own joystick configuration routine let me swich between wheel system and flight systems. It is really helpful. And, I think why they make so good handling is the joystick configuration routine. I hope of course GPL too. and Geoff Crammond's GP3 too. :) Yoshihiko Minami

CPR is by far the worst joystick/wheel configuration problem I have encountered with Win95. Neither device will calibrate without jitters or a strong bias to one side. Is the "Sidewinder" the only dependable device?

>CPR is by far the worst joystick/wheel configuration problem I have >encountered with Win95. Neither device will calibrate without jitters >or a strong bias to one side. Is the "Sidewinder" the only dependable >device? The only one I've personally used that fixed the problem (note that some systems apparently don't have calibration problems at all, so if someone says joystick X works you have to make sure they're on a system that gets the calibration jitters). The Sidewinders work with optical sensors, which seems to provide more accurate and consistent readings. Joe

> CPR is by far the worst joystick/wheel configuration problem I have > encountered with Win95. Neither device will calibrate without jitters > or a strong bias to one side. Is the "Sidewinder" the only dependable > device? The worst part is the actual configuration of joystick axis or buttons to game functions. Esp. the hardcoding of functions to buttons. I want to be able to shift gears with the wheel pedals on my TM GP1. The best configuration is still possible in ICR2/N2, after the patch it works quite the same in F1RS. This should be standard procedure, give a list of game functions and let the user press any button, move any axis or hit any key -> configured! l8er ronny -- |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!