Which Steering Wheel to buy?

I've been using the GP1 for about a year now and I love it. Easy to set up and modify if you feel like it. Thrustmaster's support is good( except post Christmas! ), and it's very inexpensive! I've even bought a new one for racing with friends. The hand controls work very well for me, my motorcycle backround I believe. don

While we're on the subject does anyone know if there is a gas/brake console on the market that is sold separately? I cannot find one in the stores and it doesn't seem like Thrustmaster even carries one. BTW, am I the only one who has trouble staying awak while playing N2? I think watching things "fly by" is hypnotic.... Jp

CH sell a good set of pedals seperately. They combine well with the GP1 and allow you to use the paddles as gear shifts, just like in real F1. Regards Andrew

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> While we're on the subject does anyone know if there is a gas/brake > console on the market that is sold separately? I cannot find one in the > stores and it doesn't seem like Thrustmaster even carries one. > BTW, am I the only one who has trouble staying awak while playing N2? > I think watching things "fly by" is hypnotic.... > Jp

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Take a look at my extensive wheels & pedals coverage at: http://home.worldonline.nl/~flucas Greetz, Frits

I'm in the process of looking for a good driving wheel/pedal setup as well. I was thinking I'd wait till Thrustmaster releases it's forcefeedback wheel, and if it isnt that expensive I was thinking about getting that, otherwise I was planning on getting the T2. I did like someone elses suggestion about getting the Formula 1 wheel from Thrustmaster, and pedals from CH, so I could shift like the real F1 cars do... but I'd rather have Force Feedback if I can get that. I was also thinking about going so far as to make a seat/cockpit type thing I could attach everything too. I realize there are sets for sale, but I think I could build one for less, sometimes, a LOT less. If anyone has any suggestions about building a***pit/seat type thing, email me or post your suggestions here. Brian Short

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> Take a look at my extensive wheels & pedals coverage at: > [link lost in import: /~flucas] > Greetz, > Frits > >I am looking at getting a steering wheel and have looked at the > Thrustmaster > >Grand Prix with the gas and brake on the wheel or should I go for the T2 > with > >the pedals?

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> I got a GP1 and its great! I never could play in-car F1RS with a > joystick, but now it feels much more natural, so much that I cant play > "outside arcade style" with the wheel! > >I am looking at getting a steering wheel and have looked at the Thrustmaster > >Grand Prix with the gas and brake on the wheel or should I go for the T2 with > >the pedals? > >I want it for playing F1RS and POD

If your budget allows, you should REALLY add the CH Pedals to the GP1. Applying gas and brake with your hands is as weird as using a flightstick, IMHO. And you are able to shift gears with the wheel pedals, which is very close to a real F1 configuration... l8er ronny -- |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

> I'm in the process of looking for a good driving wheel/pedal setup as well. > I was thinking I'd wait till Thrustmaster releases it's forcefeedback wheel, > and if it isnt that expensive I was thinking about getting that, otherwise I I don't think, FF wheels will be affordable AND usefull anytime soon. Make that a TM GP1 + CH Pedals. The Formula 1 has floor pedals, no wheel pedals. l8er ronny -- |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

On Fri, 06 Mar 1998 09:55:13 +0100, Ronald Stoehr

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>If your budget allows, you should REALLY add the CH Pedals to the GP1. >Applying >gas and brake with your hands is as weird as using a flightstick, IMHO. >And you >are able to shift gears with the wheel pedals, which is very close to a >real F1 >configuration...

Those CH flight pedals will cost me 4 times more to buy than my wheel! Besides, I always have a real racecar to drive later this year when I want my real force feedback and realism! -- Nathan Wong http://www.nectar.com.au/~alfacors - Super Touring - Alfa Romeo - - V8Supercars - CART -

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> On Fri, 06 Mar 1998 09:55:13 +0100, Ronald Stoehr > >If your budget allows, you should REALLY add the CH Pedals to the GP1. > >Applying > >gas and brake with your hands is as weird as using a flightstick, IMHO. > >And you > >are able to shift gears with the wheel pedals, which is very close to a > >real F1 > >configuration... > Those CH flight pedals will cost me 4 times more to buy than my wheel! > Besides, I always have a real racecar to drive later this year when I > want my real force feedback and realism!

Come again?? The combo TM GP1 + CH Pedals should be less than the TM Nascar wheel, but has better features (IMHO) and you can use the CH Pedals for flight sims, too. Maybe you are mixing up the CH Pedals with the expensive TM Flight Pedals? l8er ronny -- |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

On Mon, 09 Mar 1998 10:57:30 +0100, Ronald Stoehr

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>Come again?? The combo TM GP1 + CH Pedals should be less than the >TM Nascar wheel, but has better features (IMHO) and you can use the CH >Pedals >for flight sims, too. >Maybe you are mixing up the CH Pedals with the expensive TM Flight >Pedals?

Prices in Australian dollars CH Flight pedals = $269.95 Thurstmaster GP1 = $149.95 Total = $419.90 vs. Nascar Pro = $349.95 Advantage 1 = $399 (www.ferrarodesign.com.au) I bought my GP1 for only $70 (special deal with the rep from the supplier), so now you can see why this combo is not an option at all. To get an idea of how much we are ripped off in Australia, multiply those prices by 0.65 to get the US dollar price. CH Flight Pedals = US$175 GP1 = US$97 Nascar Pro = US$227 -- Nathan Wong http://www.nectar.com.au/~alfacors - Super Touring - Alfa Romeo - - V8Supercars - CART -

> On Mon, 09 Mar 1998 10:57:30 +0100, Ronald Stoehr snip > >Maybe you are mixing up the CH Pedals with the expensive TM Flight > >Pedals? snip

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> I bought my GP1 for only $70 (special deal with the rep from the > supplier), so now you can see why this combo is not an option at all. > To get an idea of how much we are ripped off in Australia, multiply > those prices by 0.65 to get the US dollar price. > CH Flight Pedals = US$175 > GP1 = US$97 > Nascar Pro = US$227

I feel for you, but prices in Europe are on a higher level than the US, too! BUT: The CH Pedals (that's the product name here) are NEVER more expensive than the TM GP1. If I remember correctly, I paid about US$60 for Pedals and about US$80 for the GP1. Maybe you're talking about the CH Pro Pedals? l8er ronny -- |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!