CPR

Ok, it's obvious 99% of the people on this newsgroup hate CPR. BUT, it's the BEST championship car (formally known as "indycars") sim to emerge for it's first time on the market. Maybe papyrus should take a close look at it for CART3. Microsoft actually paid attention to car detail adding the "fin" behind the pop-off valve and the side pods. The sounds are awesome too and so is the animated pit crew. It's still VERY obvious that this game NEEDS some vast improvements such as adding full contorl in the pits, yellow flags, realistic crash damage, and probably most of all BETTER AI; not to mention graphics adjustment. The list goes on, but what do you expect from a 1st time CART game made by a company who's only other driving game was Monster Truck Madness?

Oh GOD NO!!!!! Papyrus....PLEASE ignore this suggestion!! Microsoft actually paid attention to car detail adding the "fin" behind Whoopee! Those details really made the game run beautifully, didn't they?! (stuff snipped) The list goes on, but what do you expect from a 1st time CART game Madness? I expect something similar to what Ubi Soft managed to do with F1RS. Bruce.

Just because it is their first racing "sim" is no excuse for such poor AI and gameplay. If Ubisoft can make an excellant racing sim their first time with F1Rs, so should Microsoft/TR. Ken The Game Pad http://gamepad.org/

Ok Bruce, you don't know obviously don't know ***about CART PR or CART racing. It's not Mircosoft's fault you have a crappy computer. Try running it on something else besides a P90. I wasn't talking about game play you dumbass. Graphics and car detail.

Target 12 wrote What makes you think that... Calling somebody a dumbass is actually immature, but... you probably never saw Icr2-Rendition. Heh tell me Papyrus can't make good graphics. Oh yeah tell me after seeing GP-Legends they can't make accurate car details. Can you say different models depending on the team you are.... Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard on NROS> Sponsored by http://www.awpss.com/ May the downforce be with you and Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-) - Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. - Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) - Excuse me for being provocative (I'm dumb speaking)

CPR is a great sim. Have anyone tried to setup the cars. You'll need to setup a car for each track. Just like a Real Racing car. I do have to be fair and say that the cars are very undrivable in their default setups. You can't expect to just jump in and do great laps.

Fredkong wrote Different opinions, different taste. Maybe the track editor will make me change idead (probably not) Heheheh lol. I think I knowed that before. Heheh. ROTF heheheh. D'uh seting up a car ! heheheh.... Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard on NROS> Sponsored by http://www.awpss.com/ May the downforce be with you and Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-) - Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s. - Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking) - Excuse me for being provocative (I'm dumb speaking)

Oh dear.....another 16 year-old! My vocabulary-challenged friend, I probably have forgotten more about CART racing/F1 racing than you'll ever learn. As for CPR, I gave it the benefit of the doubt. In fact, I installed it three times....the last with the patch. It was installed on a P233 MMX + 3DFX +128Mb RAM. I can honestly say that I certainly wanted to like the game but found it lacking in most areas that I consider important. Now to your comment about "not talking about gameplay...", which you finished by referring to my posterior being speech-challenged:- Might I suggest that you *state* what you are talking about? You see, we are not all endowed with psychic powers. Be that as it may....and here I'm making allowances for the fact that you may possibly be suffering from some mental deficiency (or you have the I.Q. of a bunch of celery)....my personal preference insofar as simulations are concerned does not include CPR. Perhaps our friends at MS will learn from this abortive attempt to provide "the best" racing simulation and will beaver away quietly....like Ubi Soft, for example. For me....I'll wait patiently until the leaders of this genre (Papyrus) produce, in turn, GPL, N3 and CART2. If your concentration has held out to this point, I thank you for reading this response. You can go outside and play now.

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> Ok Bruce, you don't know obviously don't know ***about CART PR or CART > racing. > It's not Mircosoft's fault you have a crappy computer. Try running it on > something else besides a P90. > I wasn't talking about game play you dumbass. Graphics and car detail.

-- Bruce. (At home)

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> Ok Bruce, you don't know obviously don't know ***about CART PR or CART > racing. > >Whoopee! Those details really made the game run beautifully, didn't they?! > It's not Mircosoft's fault you have a crappy computer. Try running it on > something else besides a P90. > >Oh GOD NO!!!!! Papyrus....PLEASE ignore this suggestion!! > I wasn't talking about game play you dumbass. Graphics and car detail.

Just me or do the cars in CPR look too bubbly or something? -- We are the Hosh! You will be assimilated! Lower your defences and surrender! Your technological and biological distinctiveness will be added to our own. Your culture will be adapted to service us. Resistance is futile. Have a nice &*($ing day!

Dont insult celery that way!!!!

Ooops! Sorry......I really meant to say brocolli! -- Bruce. "I envy people who drink. At least they have something to blame everything on." (Oscar Levant)

Actually it's the ONLY sim of Championship Cars to emerge on the market for the first time. If you expand that to include all former "Indycars", I recall Indy500 being a lot better quality and more revolutionary at the time. Yep, gotta love the detail on that animated pit crew :-0 It almost makes one forget how horrible it is to drive. That's the one aspect of "attention to detail" that was forgotten. Monster Truck Madness with CART graphics would have been nice. It was fleet of foot and responsive to drive. I enjoyed it a lot - AND it had no yellow flags ;-) Cheers! John

> CPR is a great sim. Have anyone tried to setup the cars. You'll need to > setup a car for each track. Just like a Real Racing car. I do have to be > fair and say that the cars are very undrivable in their default setups. > You can't expect to just jump in and do great laps. Yeah, gotta love those setup options. Especially the speed sensitivity, linear and dead zone, hehehehehe. I'm just hopeless at setups I guess :(((((((((((( -- We are the Hosh! You will be assimilated! Lower your defences and surrender! Your technological and biological distinctiveness will be added to our own. Your culture will be adapted to service us. Resistance is futile. Have a nice &*($ing day!

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> >Ok, it's obvious 99% of the people on this newsgroup hate CPR. BUT, it's the > >BEST championship car (formally known as "indycars") sim to emerge for it's > >first time on the market. > Actually it's the ONLY sim of Championship Cars to emerge on the > market for the first time. If you expand that to include all former > "Indycars", I recall Indy500 being a lot better quality and more > revolutionary at the time. > >Microsoft actually paid attention to car detail adding the "fin" behind > >the pop-off valve and the side pods. The sounds are awesome too and so is the > >animated pit crew. > Yep, gotta love the detail on that animated pit crew :-0 It almost > makes one forget how horrible it is to drive. That's the one aspect of > "attention to detail" that was forgotten.

Yeah and you have to love how the "detailed" pit crew is composed of cart officials. I wonder if they are faster than the real crews, also do they have the real fuel man out walking around to make sure all of the rules aren't broken? -- Thank You Marc Johnson Outside of a dog, a book is a mans best friend. Inside a dog, it is too dark to read -Mark Twain

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>> CPR is a great sim. Have anyone tried to setup the cars. You'll need to >> setup a car for each track. Just like a Real Racing car. I do have to be >> fair and say that the cars are very undrivable in their default setups. >> You can't expect to just jump in and do great laps. > Yeah, gotta love those setup options. Especially the speed >sensitivity, linear and dead zone, hehehehehe. I'm just hopeless at >setups I guess :(((((((((((( Yeah, You said it!! Thats why you came to me for ICR2 setups!