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Steering wheel question (GPL and head panning)

5 posts by 5 people · 24 Feb 1998 - 25 Feb 1998

Somewhere it was written that Grand Prix Legends by Papyrus will allow the player to look left and right while driving. Apparently this will be implemented so, that when a button or key is pushed, the wiev will begin so shift to the desired direction, and upon release it (immediately?) centers. If this is going to be vital game function, one obviously has to be able to control it without taking hands off from the steering wheel. My question: If I by a TSW, will I be able to control viewing with the paddle shifters and gears with the gear column, or are the switches internally wired to present only two joystick buttons? I expect, that the sofware will be flexible enough. How about ECCI? Does it have enough buttons? Of course, it may turn out, that while racing one doesn't have time to mess with this kind of things. By the way, I think the ideal way to control head panning might be with wheel mounted analog controllers, like those in Thrustmaster GP1.
Trips 24 Feb 1998#397437
> By the way, I think the ideal way to > control head panning might be with wheel mounted analog controllers, > like those in Thrustmaster GP1. I think the best method would be to replace the shift knob with a little head... then you could just twist it to make your on screen view change... (sorry... WAY too little sleep last night...) Trips
> > By the way, I think the ideal way to > > control head panning might be with wheel mounted analog controllers, > > like those in Thrustmaster GP1. I'd rather have two fixed but adjustable side views programmed onto buttons on the steering wheel. The angle of the views from dead ahead should be adjustable. There should also be an option to choose either an instant change of the veiw or just a quick pan between views to maintain fluidity. It seems like analog panning of the view removes the sense of what the car is doing for me. I relate to the handling of the car by seeing how the scenery changes in relation to the***pit. If the***pit is moving too much (more than just chassis roll or suspension movement) it seems to remove my internal sense of how the car is reacting to the road. Of course I turned off the head panning feature in CARTPR almost immediately so I never got used to it. It still seems to me that fixed views will allow more precise driving. The answer is: options, options, options! Give everyone what they want and allow full flexibility and adjustability in the view systems. Provide options for manual analog view changes, manual fixed view changes, and automatic head panning. The ulitmate will be affordable quality HMD head tracking, but that still seem to be a long way off. -- Pat Dotson IMPACT Motorsports
Randy BO 24 Feb 1998#397439
so I never got used to it. I've used both on and off quite a bit. I turn it off now for ovals, and turn it on for road courses. This is mainly because for ovals you are going to exit the turns and go up near the walls and you darn well want to see where that right wheel is, and the view just doesn't back out fast enough or far enough to allow you to place your right wheel at the wall with any precision. Fixed at least allows you to get used to where the wheel should be. But for road courses, I definitely prefer being able to see into and through the turns at the correct points, and smoothly. The button idea is not one I like much because its one more manual control I have to mess with while I'm trying to drive the car. I recently got a book called Think to Win (you can look it up on www.amazon.com). Its really neat because it shows camera views of where you should be looking at just about every point on a sample road course (Willow Springs). You can clearly see the benefit of head panning when done right, and I've discovered this benefit for road courses. I just wish they'd get the head back out to track-out faster so I can deal with any curbing on the exit. Randy Randy Magruder Staff Writer Digital Sportspage http://www.digitalsports.com/
Andrejs Cer 25 Feb 1998#397558
Jari, All ECCI controls have four buttons mounted on the wheel. You could assign two for gear shifting and still have two remaining for other functions. I can't give you any information on GPL's features, but if it can be assigned button control, it will work with our system. All ECCI systems are as compatible typical four button joystick conventions. Regards! Andy Cers ECCI

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