IWCCCARS????

Anyone else having problems getting to IWCCCARS? Everytime I try I get a file download, instead of their website....

Don't worry about getting to their cars. Their new ones are not the best I have seen. If they come back online and you want great cars from the past then IWCCCARS is great. If you're looking for good 98 cars go to STORM CARS. They have done a very detailed job and update often. http://members.aol.com/strmvet3ad/cars.html

best I have seen. If they come back online and you want great cars from the past then IWCCCARS is great. If you're looking for good 98 cars go to STORM CARS. They have done a very detailed job and update often.<< Thats because Patrick Gilmore doesn't do the cars for them anymore....and frankly...it SHOWS!

I think that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so here is mine. I use the IWCC cars, but I dl'd the cars from Storm ones also. I wanted to see which one was better. The Storm ones are good, but there are many flaws in the cars. Most of the cars need better blending of the numbers and colors on the cars like the #13 and 16. Some of the cars are also modified IWCC cars. ex #97 John Deere logo does not move when I toggle between IWCC and Storm. One other thing I like is that the IWCC cars have driver backgrounds, pics, and stats. The Storm ones do not. That said, I did like that Storm had some of the one-race sponsored cars like the #44 Blues Brothers car. -- Mike (TEN ID:mpete) -- Mike's Nascar World http://www.mnworld.com

> Anyone else having problems getting to IWCCCARS? Everytime I try I get a file > download, instead of their website.... Greetings...Although I am a 1 man operation, I have 27 98 pcx files ready to go now, and the 1998 WC car set is coming. Please stop by and check out the paint jobs I have. Summers Brothers Racing http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/downs/6508

git.net apparently screwed up the server big time over the weekend, and Dave is trying to get them to take care of this ASAP. Earl

Some server-side functions (such as Q&A) are still down, but the majority of the site is now back up and running. The '98 WC set has been updated, with a number of new entries available as Brian mentioned, along with a thoroughly overhauled '97 set with photos, stats, bios, and cars updated through the end of the '97 season, including several cars not previously available on IWCCCARS and two I have not seen available anywhere else. Thanks for your support. Earl

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>>Anyone else having problems getting to IWCCCARS? Everytime I try I get a file >>download, instead of their website.... >Some server-side functions (such as Q&A) are still down, but the majority >of the site is now back up and running. The '98 WC set has been updated, >with a number of new entries available as Brian mentioned, along with >a thoroughly overhauled '97 set with photos, stats, bios, and cars >updated through the end of the '97 season, including several cars not >previously available on IWCCCARS and two I have not seen available anywhere >else.

My goof...it's the N1 set for 1997 which has been uploaded, not the N2 set yet, but that is indeed complete and merely waits uploading by Dave. Earl

>Anyone else having problems getting to IWCCCARS? Everytime I try I get a file >download, instead of their website.... The ISP that houses IWCCCARS has been experiencing problems the last couple of days, which prevents you guys from getting the cars, and us from updating. A trouble ticket has been placed, and when it gets resolved, Dave plans to update the site. There are approximately 18-20 updates in the pipeline, including changes from Daytona and Rockingham, and the 81, 40, 77, and 7 cars. The 29 is in the works now. Thanks! -- Brian Simpson IWCCCARS Designer HAL Member

How does that old saying go, "Imitation is the sincerest form of Flattery!" That being said, I have a few things to point out to theses two "Carset Critics". I will start by saying that I for one wish there could be a way to watermark all designs a creator does to be able to tell when you cars are copied, even if it is only a logo or a number. Myself and Chris Frederick from Racing HQ, have discussed a way that it can be done, so remember this in the future. Now on to the point, You talk about how the IWCCCARS cars are not up to the standard that they were in the past, well I for one have to disagree. If you want proof, get an old carset from us and see if you can pick the ones that Patrick did. I bet you would be surprised. As for the carset from The "Storm Motorgroup" that he insists is so much better, let me let you in on a few secrets. 1. The #44, #96 and #97 are almost entirely cut and pasted from IWCCCARS cars. 2. Look at a side by side comparison of cars like #11, #16, #18, #30, #50, #46 and # 90, then honestly tell me where the quality is. 3. The Tabasco car took me 2 days to do, because of all the hand blending and logo designs and if you look the one from the Storm #35, you will first see the quality isn't even close, and the flames were cut and pasted from ours and moved down. Logos also only moved. 4. The #33 Skoal car, look at the numbers on the side, they were cut and pasted and the color edited. 5. The #4 Kodak and the #22 MBNA cars, have had all of the graphics, cut and pasted from our cars. 6. The #24 Dupont and the #28 Havoline, are almost identical except for him darkening or changing the color a little. 7. The #9 Cartoon Network car, was done by cutting and pasting from Chris Fredericks set at Racing HQ. Now I could go on, but whats the point, You don't have to be a Brain Surgeon to see what I am Talking about. I appologize for the length of this post but, I never post to the news groups, so I think I should be allowed to just post 1 long one per year. ;-) <BG> Chris Thompson SimWorld Online Director http://www.sim-world.com IWCCCARS Design Team Member NROS Nick : k9cowboy

Well, enough lurking in the background here.... The cars I did for the IWCCCARS 1997 carset included: #1, #2, #8, #9, #11, #23, #29, #30, #31, #33, #36, #40, #41, #42, #43, #44, #94, #97 and #98. I also did a fair number of the '97 BGN cars. Some of those above have been slightly modified over time by other members. I was off-line for quite a long time and did not contribute to the 1998 carset other than the cars that remained the same from 1997. While I was off-line I put together my "own" 1998 carset and I mentioned this to Dave Sparks at IWCCCARS. Since they already have a set put together I doubt if they are interested in mine. Patrick Gilmore Former? IWCCCARS member