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Attn TM GP1 owners!

14 posts by 8 people · 19 Feb 1998 - 20 Feb 1998

Help me, I am a desperate man. First the facts: P200 64 MB EDO RAM Intergraph Intense 3-d (Rendition) Monster 3-d Using Thrustmaster Propanel to Calibrate GP1 plugged into Soundblaster 32 awe pnp sound card I am having problems with my accelerator I think. I drive Dega a lot and always run 194-195 mph by lap 3. Now I am only running like 190-191. I have calibrated with TM Propanel and also have tried to calibrate in the game. No luck. I have noticed when using the TEST feature in propanel that there is now a slight switching going up and down when I push the accelerator. Like it will stay all the way on for a second and then will twitch and go down a little. I guess that this would result in a loss of acceleration. I have unplugged the GP1 and plugged it back in with no luck. The only thing that has changed on my system is I downloaded CFrediricks new 98 WC car set. I have had the GP1 for a year and never had any problems before. It feels no different either. And yes, I am using the adapter from TM. Any help would be greatly appreciated. ps: Does the T_player skills ratings affect anything? I don't think so but was just reaching for anything at this point? Maybe they were changed or something?
Trips 19 Feb 1998#396932
Do you have DirectX5 on your system? If so, the problem could be caused by the "poll with interrupts enabled" feature... Go into the game controllers control panel and hit the "advanced" tab, and see if the "poll with interrupts enabled" checkbox is checked. If it is, uncheck it and "ok" out of the control panel. Go back in and make sure it stayed unchecked... sometimes you have to uncheck it twice to make it "stick". When "poll with interrupts enabled" is checked, you'll often see some intermittent spiking in the analog controller axes. That could be the culprit here. If you don't have DirectX5 on your system, none of this applies... Trips
Quoted text (29 lines)> Help me, I am a desperate man. First the facts: > P200 > 64 MB EDO RAM > Intergraph Intense 3-d (Rendition) > Monster 3-d > Using Thrustmaster Propanel to Calibrate > GP1 plugged into Soundblaster 32 awe pnp sound card > I am having problems with my accelerator I think. I drive Dega a lot > and always run 194-195 mph by lap 3. Now I am only running like > 190-191. I have calibrated with TM Propanel and also have tried to > calibrate in the game. No luck. I have noticed when using the TEST > feature in propanel that there is now a slight switching going up and > down when I push the accelerator. Like it will stay all the way on > for a second and then will twitch and go down a little. I guess that > this would result in a loss of acceleration. I have unplugged the GP1 > and plugged it back in with no luck. The only thing that has changed > on my system is I downloaded CFrediricks new 98 WC car set. I have > had the GP1 for a year and never had any problems before. It feels no > different either. And yes, I am using the adapter from TM. Any help > would be greatly appreciated. > ps: Does the T_player skills ratings affect anything? I don't think > so but was just reaching for anything at this point? Maybe they were > changed or something?
Quoted text (29 lines)> Help me, I am a desperate man. First the facts: > P200 > 64 MB EDO RAM > Intergraph Intense 3-d (Rendition) > Monster 3-d > Using Thrustmaster Propanel to Calibrate > GP1 plugged into Soundblaster 32 awe pnp sound card > I am having problems with my accelerator I think. I drive Dega a lot > and always run 194-195 mph by lap 3. Now I am only running like > 190-191. I have calibrated with TM Propanel and also have tried to > calibrate in the game. No luck. I have noticed when using the TEST > feature in propanel that there is now a slight switching going up and > down when I push the accelerator. Like it will stay all the way on > for a second and then will twitch and go down a little. I guess that > this would result in a loss of acceleration. I have unplugged the GP1 > and plugged it back in with no luck. The only thing that has changed > on my system is I downloaded CFrediricks new 98 WC car set. I have > had the GP1 for a year and never had any problems before. It feels no > different either. And yes, I am using the adapter from TM. Any help > would be greatly appreciated. > ps: Does the T_player skills ratings affect anything? I don't think > so but was just reaching for anything at this point? Maybe they were > changed or something?
Hi Richard Had the same thing happen to me in December after only 7 months of use. It turns out the pots were wore out. What I did for a while was to reverse the gas & brake inputs (I run ICR2 & N2, don't know if other sims will let you), & it worked while I contacted Thrustmaster & told them of my problem. They sent a whole new wheel assy, free of charge. Hope this helps! Chuck Kandler #70 K&S Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/3794
Chuck, thanks for the help. How do you go about reversing the brake and gas inputs? Thanks, Richard
Rob Edsal 19 Feb 1998#396935
You might try re-calibrating and only pressing down the pedals about 3/4 of the full travel. This will reduce the sensitivity of your pedals but may get you past any dirty areas of the potentiometers.
Quoted text (31 lines)> Help me, I am a desperate man. First the facts: > P200 > 64 MB EDO RAM > Intergraph Intense 3-d (Rendition) > Monster 3-d > Using Thrustmaster Propanel to Calibrate > GP1 plugged into Soundblaster 32 awe pnp sound card > I am having problems with my accelerator I think. I drive Dega a lot > and always run 194-195 mph by lap 3. Now I am only running like > 190-191. I have calibrated with TM Propanel and also have tried to > calibrate in the game. No luck. I have noticed when using the TEST > feature in propanel that there is now a slight switching going up and > down when I push the accelerator. Like it will stay all the way on > for a second and then will twitch and go down a little. I guess that > this would result in a loss of acceleration. I have unplugged the GP1 > and plugged it back in with no luck. The only thing that has changed > on my system is I downloaded CFrediricks new 98 WC car set. I have > had the GP1 for a year and never had any problems before. It feels no > different either. And yes, I am using the adapter from TM. Any help > would be greatly appreciated. > ps: Does the T_player skills ratings affect anything? I don't think > so but was just reaching for anything at this point? Maybe they were > changed or something?
>You might try re-calibrating and only pressing down the pedals about 3/4 >of the full travel. This will reduce the sensitivity of your pedals but >may get you past any dirty areas of the potentiometers. That is a band-aid for the problem, but I would recommend fixing the problem by cleaning the pots with contact cleaner and recalibrating or getting some replacement pots from Thrustmaster- they even come with instructions. Bill -------- "NASCAR is the Professional Wrestling of Motorsport." -Me-
How do you go about cleaning potentiometers? What do they look like? Where can you get contact cleaner? Excuse me if these are dumb questions but I am not the most mechanically inclined person in the world. Richard
Quoted text (13 lines)>>You might try re-calibrating and only pressing down the pedals about 3/4 >>of the full travel. This will reduce the sensitivity of your pedals but >>may get you past any dirty areas of the potentiometers. >That is a band-aid for the problem, but I would recommend fixing the problem >by cleaning the pots with contact cleaner and recalibrating or getting some >replacement pots from Thrustmaster- they even come with instructions. >Bill >-------- >"NASCAR is the Professional Wrestling of Motorsport." > -Me-
Quoted text (19 lines)> Chuck, thanks for the help. How do you go about reversing the brake > and gas inputs? > Thanks, > Richard > >Had the same thing happen to me in December after only 7 months of use. > >It turns out the pots were wore out. What I did for a while was to > >reverse the gas & brake inputs (I run ICR2 & N2, don't know if other > >sims will let you), & it worked while I contacted Thrustmaster & told > >them of my problem. They sent a whole new wheel assy, free of charge. > >Hope this helps! > >Chuck Kandler #70 > >K&S Racing > >http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/3794
Hi Richard To reverse your inputs in ICR2, go to the Controls menu, select Set Controls, and use the appropriate input for brake & acceleration. In N2, when you are looking at your car on jacks, select Options, then select Controls. Once again, use the appropriate input for each & get racin!! Now if only I could get this darn F1RS demo from the Boot disc to work!<f> Hope that helps! Chuck Kandler #70 K&S Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/3794
myke 19 Feb 1998#396939
Quoted text (26 lines)> How do you go about cleaning potentiometers? What do they look like? > Where can you get contact cleaner? Excuse me if these are dumb > questions but I am not the most mechanically inclined person in the > world. > Richard > >>You might try re-calibrating and only pressing down the pedals about 3/4 > >>of the full travel. This will reduce the sensitivity of your pedals but > >>may get you past any dirty areas of the potentiometers. > >That is a band-aid for the problem, but I would recommend fixing the problem > >by cleaning the pots with contact cleaner and recalibrating or getting some > >replacement pots from Thrustmaster- they even come with instructions. > >Bill > >-------- > >"NASCAR is the Professional Wrestling of Motorsport." > > -Me-
Talk about Dejavu... I purchased my GP1 in Feb 97. In Nov 97 (just as NROS opened) my brake pot began malfunctioning. It wouldn't consistantly release so I was going slower than normal and was a road hazard. I sent an e-mail to Thrustmaster. They did send a replacement wheel/base unit free of charge. About 2 weeks of the new one, and the gas pot got flakey. I used some WD-40 to cure the problem short term, but decided to get some CH Pedals to eliminate the GP1 gas/brake problem. At this point I think I should have got the pedals right away. Much less wear and tear on my index finger. (mashing the gas lap after lap). Also having independant gas and brake is better too. mykey
Nathan Wong 20 Feb 1998#397029
>How do you go about cleaning potentiometers? What do they look like? >Where can you get contact cleaner? Excuse me if these are dumb >questions but I am not the most mechanically inclined person in the >world. I would love to know as well, as I am getting my GP1 next week and want to know how to maintain it from the start.... Should I email Thrustmaster and get springs etc now?
>How do you go about cleaning potentiometers? What do they look like? >Where can you get contact cleaner? Excuse me if these are dumb >questions but I am not the most mechanically inclined person in the >world. If you look at your paddles, they are turning the shaft of the pots. Get contact cleaner at Radio Shack and spray the ***out of them. Make sure to aim the spray so that it gets inside the pots. As a sideline, my pots were still wobbly even after cleaning several times, so I contacted TM and they sent me a new wheel. That may be a way to go for you 2. Bill -------- "NASCAR is the Professional Wrestling of Motorsport." -Me-
<snip> % I am having problems with my accelerator I think. I drive Dega a lot % and always run 194-195 mph by lap 3. Now I am only running like % 190-191. I have calibrated with TM Propanel and also have tried to % calibrate in the game. No luck. I have noticed when using the TEST % feature in propanel that there is now a slight switching going up and % down when I push the accelerator. Like it will stay all the way on % for a second and then will twitch and go down a little. I guess that % this would result in a loss of acceleration. I have unplugged the GP1 % and plugged it back in with no luck. The only thing that has changed % on my system is I downloaded CFrediricks new 98 WC car set. I have % had the GP1 for a year and never had any problems before. It feels no % different either. And yes, I am using the adapter from TM. Any help % would be greatly appreciated. Sounds like you have a dirty pot. Get some Tuner/Switch Cleaner/Lubricant at an electronics supply store and spray it inside the pot. Work the lever several times to get the cleaner over all of the contacts. You may need another good squirt to really get it clean. Cleaning your pots is a heck of alot easier than replacing them. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
% How do you go about cleaning potentiometers? What do they look like? % Where can you get contact cleaner? Excuse me if these are dumb % questions but I am not the most mechanically inclined person in the % world. To clean the pots on Thrustmaster products, get some Tuner/Switch Cleaner and Lubricant from an electronics supply store. Open up the housing on the unit and spray the insides of the pot (short for potentiometer). I usually direct the spray (via the tube extenstion for the spray nozzle) into the openings of the pot where the solder lugs are. Then move the wheel or pedal through its full range 4-6 times to work the cleaner over all the contacts. If the unit was acting up quite a bit, you may want to give it a second "cleaning" before sealing up the unit and heading back out to the track. There are pots for each pedal and for each lever on the back of the GP1 wheel. The latter can usually be cleaned by finding a "squarish" hole on the pot and directing the spray through the hole. You should be able to clean the pots for the levers without disassembling anything on your GP1, however to get to the steering wheel pot you will need to remove the housing cover of the wheel. [For the non-electronics or non-mechanical racers out there, the pot is the "silver" cylinder that the is directly behind the wheel inside the housing. It should have some wires connected to it and the wheel is connected its plastic shaft. There should be a "shaft" coming out of one end of the cylinder.] -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Rob Edsal 20 Feb 1998#397033
Of course its a band aid solution...
Quoted text (17 lines)> >You might try re-calibrating and only pressing down the pedals about > 3/4 > >of the full travel. This will reduce the sensitivity of your pedals > but > >may get you past any dirty areas of the potentiometers. > That is a band-aid for the problem, but I would recommend fixing the > problem > by cleaning the pots with contact cleaner and recalibrating or getting > some > replacement pots from Thrustmaster- they even come with instructions. > Bill > -------- > "NASCAR is the Professional Wrestling of Motorsport." > -Me-

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