TOCA? What the Dilly-yo?

I happened to see TOCA at Electronics Boutique today, and based on many favorable reviews here, decided to buy it. My question now....why? The "3Dfx" graphics were less-than-stunning compared to say, N2, F1RS, uh, Ultimate Race Pro, dang near alot of racing games look better. Even POD-3Dfx looks better IMO. And yes, 3Dfx was turned on in the options menu. Gameplay? Well, seemed like a decent arcade racing game....nothing really grabbed me or anything, just a decent arcade racing game. Driving model seemed very-well done. Only raced the first two tracks so far, does it get any better though? Am I missing something? Is this the great racing game I've been hearing about? Have 9 more days left until EB gets it back on their shelf. Aaron

I think the favorable reviews here are due to the fact it is the only comercially available effort so far that runs BTCC cars on good 'ol British Tracks. If after your other 9 days your still looking for a Touring Car Fix...check out the Pit's N2 patch that converts N2 into a pretty good Touring car sim. dave henrie #99b TPTCC

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> I happened to see TOCA at Electronics Boutique today, and based on many > favorable reviews here, decided to buy it. My question now....why? The > "3Dfx" graphics were less-than-stunning compared to say, N2, F1RS, uh, > Ultimate Race Pro, dang near alot of racing games look better. Even > POD-3Dfx looks better IMO. And yes, 3Dfx was turned on in the options menu. > Gameplay? Well, seemed like a decent arcade racing game....nothing really > grabbed me or anything, just a decent arcade racing game. Driving model > seemed very-well done. Only raced the first two tracks so far, does it get > any better though? Am I missing something? Is this the great racing game > I've been hearing about? Have 9 more days left until EB gets it back on > their shelf. > Aaron

I'll be getting my Voodoo2 12 meg board next week sometime and I'll be trying the demo of TOCA with the new card as in comparison with the original Monster3d. I am impressed with the driving model except, the framerate was just not right up to***with me on my P233/32meg/Monster3d system and the graphics where a little pixillized. If the Voodoo2 turns the TOCA demo into something special, then I'll pick up a copy. By the way, I myself did see 4 copies of TOCA at EB in Portland,OR too. Take Care............ Tony Gaylord - Portland, OR 3dfx Brotherhood

>I happened to see TOCA at Electronics Boutique today, and based on many >favorable reviews here, decided to buy it. My question now....why? The >"3Dfx" graphics were less-than-stunning The graphics are quit good, actually. Did you try a race in the rain. Notice the reflections of the tail lights off the blacktop. I think TOCA ranks right up there with some of the best graphically. How about the modeled damage? What 3Dfx graphics in N2? F1RS has disputably the best graphics in any racing game so that is a tough comparison. Ultimate Race Pro makes the cars look like toys. Sure the lighting is nice but not very realistic. POD looks goofy. The cars look like blackboard erasers. It is quite a bit less arcade then Ultimate Race Pro. The cars handling is much more realistic then that whole "Ridge Racer, Sega Rally, Whiplash" set. No options for car setups though. Return it if you don't care for it. Thats the beauty of shopping at EB. . Just remove the NOSPAM to reply

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> I'll be getting my Voodoo2 12 meg board next week sometime and I'll be >trying the demo of TOCA with the new card as in comparison with the original >Monster3d. I am impressed with the driving model except, the framerate was just >not right up to***with me on my P233/32meg/Monster3d system and the > graphics >where a little pixillized. If the Voodoo2 turns the TOCA demo into something >special, then I'll pick up a copy. By the way, I myself did see 4 copies of > TOCA >at EB in Portland,OR too. >Take Care............ >Tony Gaylord - Portland, OR >3dfx Brotherhood

If you do have the game, upgarde with the patch, and you can switch on bi-linear filtering. :) And btw, Am i the only one who see's ye old Brotherhood as the positive sillyness of 3D card facism? 8) Z.

And btw, Am I the only one who see's ye old Brotherhood as the positive sillyness of 3D card fascism? Zonker NO !! Maybe there are subliminal messages, on the boards. <g> -- JerryD(upstateNY) 8) Z.

Sorry, I meant the regular graphics of N2 seemed as smooth. if not smoother, than the "3Dfx" graphics of TOCA. TOCA really seems pixelated for a 3Dfx game. Not nearly as smooth and clean as other 3Dfx games out there. I'm not flaming the game in any way, and I still might keep it. I was just wondering if this is all there is to it? It doesn't seem to be the great game I've heard about.....at least not YET. I am definitely giving it a thorough try...alot more than I would normally give a game, because I want to like it. I'm also going to try that "bi-linear filtering" option that someone suggested to see if that smooths it out. It also seems to be running a little choppy on my P200. (especially in a pack) Thanks for any further input, Aaron