TOCA Race Driver 2 DVD only? wtf?

Guess they don't want too many sales do they? I was on the fence about buying this one. Then I saw it was only $30 (nice) but..I only saw a DVD version?!! I don't care at this point to spend another $50 having to get a cheap DVD drive along with it. So I passed on it. I'm surprised they aren't offering both CD and DVD formats like some other games. DVD driver are becoming the standard but they are not THE standard yet CodeMasters.

You are one sad moron. Your lack of knowledge shocks me,and your daring to show that on a public stage is bordering on brave stupidity. AD "Destroy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Juxgc.62032$[email hidden]...

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> Guess they don't want too many sales do they? I was on the fence about > buying this one. Then I saw it was only $30 (nice) but..I only saw a DVD > version?!! I don't care at this point to spend another $50 having to get > a cheap DVD drive along with it. So I passed on it. > > I'm surprised they aren't offering both CD and DVD formats like some > other games. > > DVD driver are becoming the standard but they are not THE standard yet > CodeMasters. >

There's another guy on the Codemasters forum with the same attitude, insists it will cost him $200 Canadian to get a DVD drive. Andi. -- Remove only one zero to reply. "AD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:c5u8pj$4ap$[email hidden]... > You are one sad moron. > > Your lack of knowledge shocks me,and your daring to show that on a public > stage is bordering on brave stupidity. > > AD > "Destroy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Juxgc.62032$[email hidden]... > > Guess they don't want too many sales do they? I was on the fence about > > buying this one. Then I saw it was only $30 (nice) but..I only saw a DVD > > version?!! I don't care at this point to spend another $50 having to get > > a cheap DVD drive along with it. So I passed on it. > > > > I'm surprised they aren't offering both CD and DVD formats like some > > other games. > > > > DVD driver are becoming the standard but they are not THE standard yet > > CodeMasters. > > > >

At one time people complained about having to buy 3.5" flopy drives instead of using their 5.25s "Andi Cole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Qozgc.34178$Y%[email hidden]... > There's another guy on the Codemasters forum with the same attitude,insists

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> it will cost him $200 Canadian to get a DVD drive. > > Andi. > > > > -- > Remove only one zero to reply. > "AD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:c5u8pj$4ap$[email hidden]... > > You are one sad moron. > > > > Your lack of knowledge shocks me,and your daring to show that on a

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> > stage is bordering on brave stupidity. > > > > AD > > "Destroy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:Juxgc.62032$[email hidden]... > > > Guess they don't want too many sales do they? I was on the fence about > > > buying this one. Then I saw it was only $30 (nice) but..I only saw a

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> > > a cheap DVD drive along with it. So I passed on it. > > > > > > I'm surprised they aren't offering both CD and DVD formats like some > > > other games. > > > > > > DVD driver are becoming the standard but they are not THE standard yet > > > CodeMasters. > > > > > > > > >

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> of using their 5.25s > > > "Andi Cole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Qozgc.34178$Y%[email hidden]... > > There's another guy on the Codemasters forum with the same attitude, > insists > > it will cost him $200 Canadian to get a DVD drive. > > > > Andi. > > > > > > > > -- > > Remove only one zero to reply. > > "AD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:c5u8pj$4ap$[email hidden]... > > > You are one sad moron. > > > > > > Your lack of knowledge shocks me,and your daring to show that on a > public > > > stage is bordering on brave stupidity. > > > > > > AD > > > "Destroy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:Juxgc.62032$[email hidden]... > > > > Guess they don't want too many sales do they? I was on the fence

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> > > > buying this one. Then I saw it was only $30 (nice) but..I only saw a > DVD > > > > version?!! I don't care at this point to spend another $50 having to > get > > > > a cheap DVD drive along with it. So I passed on it. > > > > > > > > I'm surprised they aren't offering both CD and DVD formats like some > > > > other games. > > > > > > > > DVD driver are becoming the standard but they are not THE standard

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I will sell you a Cheaper DVD drive if you want ?

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> Guess they don't want too many sales do they? I was on the fence about > buying this one. Then I saw it was only $30 (nice) but..I only saw a DVD > version?!! I don't care at this point to spend another $50 having to get > a cheap DVD drive along with it. So I passed on it. > > I'm surprised they aren't offering both CD and DVD formats like some > other games. > > DVD driver are becoming the standard but they are not THE standard yet > CodeMasters.

DVD-ROM drives came out in 1998. Surely you must have seen this day coming?

AD wrote: > You are one sad moron. > Takes one to know one.

"Damien Evans" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:c5urec$64625$[email hidden]...

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> > Guess they don't want too many sales do they? I was on the fence about > > buying this one. Then I saw it was only $30 (nice) but..I only saw a DVD > > version?!! I don't care at this point to spend another $50 having to get > > a cheap DVD drive along with it. So I passed on it. > > > > I'm surprised they aren't offering both CD and DVD formats like some > > other games. > > > > DVD driver are becoming the standard but they are not THE standard yet > > CodeMasters. > > DVD-ROM drives came out in 1998. Surely you must have seen this day

coming? > > long live the 5.25 floppy drve i actually have a box of verbatim 5.25 DD/MD still in there shrink wrap! just waiting for retro pc's to become fashionable Staf

On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 07:20:22 +1000, "Damien Evans" <[email hidden]> wrote: >DVD-ROM drives came out in 1998. Surely you must have seen this day coming? I've had a DVD-ROM since about that time. FINALLY no more disc swapping during installation. Mayhap the games will be harder to pirate as well. Wouldn't be a big loss to the industry. Complaining about an upgrade that'd cost the price of two slabs is just pitiful. Cheers, j -- Jørgen Sundvor Smith mail: jorgen%smith.net

Good grief DVD drives only cost �17 its not that much to bring your machine up to date. "Destroy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Juxgc.62032$[email hidden]...

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> Guess they don't want too many sales do they? I was on the fence about > buying this one. Then I saw it was only $30 (nice) but..I only saw a DVD > version?!! I don't care at this point to spend another $50 having to get > a cheap DVD drive along with it. So I passed on it. > > I'm surprised they aren't offering both CD and DVD formats like some > other games. > > DVD driver are becoming the standard but they are not THE standard yet > CodeMasters. >

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> long live the 5.25 floppy drve > i actually have a box of verbatim 5.25 DD/MD still in there shrink wrap! > just waiting for retro pc's to become fashionable > Staf > lmao I still have an external 5.25 floppy drive from an atari pc. hell, I still have the entire atari 64 and 800 systems..lol and a working 486 pc with dos 6 and a 300baud modem...lmao.. . How times have changed. As for this Toca game.. I downloaded the demo and its not to my liking. Graphics are great but game play feels more like an arcade game. The ps2/xbox gamers may like it. DvD-roms seem like the wave of the future, but not yet. Give it another year or so and the plain old cd-rom will fade out like the floppy drive has.

Re: Atari -- Your post brought back some mixed memories. I distinctly remember paying $400 (that's not a typo) for the original Atari computer floppy drive. I think that it was Model 850? Lotsa money back then, but it brought lotsa fun with it. "news.verizon.net" wrote:

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> > long live the 5.25 floppy drve > > i actually have a box of verbatim 5.25 DD/MD still in there shrink wrap! > > just waiting for retro pc's to become fashionable > > Staf > > > > lmao I still have an external 5.25 floppy drive from an atari pc. hell, I > still have the entire atari 64 and 800 systems..lol and a working 486 pc > with dos 6 and a 300baud modem...lmao.. . > How times have changed. > > As for this Toca game.. I downloaded the demo and its not to my liking. > Graphics are great but game play feels more like an arcade game. The > ps2/xbox gamers may like it. > > DvD-roms seem like the wave of the future, but not yet. Give it another year > or so and the plain old cd-rom will fade out like the floppy drive has.

Re: Atari -- Your post brought back some mixed memories. I distinctly remember paying $400 (that's not a typo) for the original Atari computer floppy drive. I think that it was Model 850? Lotsa money back then, but it brought lotsa fun with it.

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> > long live the 5.25 floppy drve > > i actually have a box of verbatim 5.25 DD/MD still in there shrink wrap! > > just waiting for retro pc's to become fashionable > > Staf > lmao I still have an external 5.25 floppy drive from an atari pc. hell, I > still have the entire atari 64 and 800 systems..lol and a working 486 pc > with dos 6 and a 300baud modem...lmao.. . > How times have changed. > As for this Toca game.. I downloaded the demo and its not to my liking. > Graphics are great but game play feels more like an arcade game. The > ps2/xbox gamers may like it. > DvD-roms seem like the wave of the future, but not yet. Give it another year > or so and the plain old cd-rom will fade out like the floppy drive has.

Well considering that DVD Drives are as cheap as CD Drives, I think that time is already here Can you even buy a new PC these days without a DVD drive in it? "news.verizon.net" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:GLEgc.8021$[email hidden]...

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> > long live the 5.25 floppy drve > > i actually have a box of verbatim 5.25 DD/MD still in there shrink wrap! > > just waiting for retro pc's to become fashionable > > Staf > > > > lmao I still have an external 5.25 floppy drive from an atari pc. hell, I > still have the entire atari 64 and 800 systems..lol and a working 486 pc > with dos 6 and a 300baud modem...lmao.. . > How times have changed. > > As for this Toca game.. I downloaded the demo and its not to my liking. > Graphics are great but game play feels more like an arcade game. The > ps2/xbox gamers may like it. > > DvD-roms seem like the wave of the future, but not yet. Give it another

year > or so and the plain old cd-rom will fade out like the floppy drive has. > > >

>long live the 5.25 floppy drve >i actually have a box of verbatim 5.25 DD/MD still in there shrink wrap! >just waiting for retro pc's to become fashionable >Staf > I still miss my old 8086 with a 30 Meg HD, 5.25 drive, 640K Ram and monochrome monitor. It ran at a blazing 4.7mHz. And that PC speaker really rocked. NOT! Bill

What a sad bunch you lot are. thinking someone is a loser or pitiful because they can't keep up with the latest hardware!! a dvd drive here in Australia aint cheep. If I'm going to replace my cd burner, I want a dvd burner. they're a little more in price. I'm looking at $200 in my area. Considering I earn $400 a week, before tax, those things are utter luxeries. Think fellas. Not everyone has disposable income. Steve "Jasper" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:c5v48e$gs1$[email hidden]... > Good grief DVD drives only cost �17 its not that much to bring yourmachine

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> up to date. > > "Destroy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Juxgc.62032$[email hidden]... > > Guess they don't want too many sales do they? I was on the fence about > > buying this one. Then I saw it was only $30 (nice) but..I only saw a DVD > > version?!! I don't care at this point to spend another $50 having to get > > a cheap DVD drive along with it. So I passed on it. > > > > I'm surprised they aren't offering both CD and DVD formats like some > > other games. > > > > DVD driver are becoming the standard but they are not THE standard yet > > CodeMasters. > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.658 / Virus Database: 421 - Release Date: 10/04/2004 > >

On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:23:48 +1000, "Steve Whitty" <[email hidden]> wrote: >What a sad bunch you lot are. thinking someone is a loser or pitiful >because they can't keep up with the latest hardware!! a dvd drive here in >Australia aint cheep. If I'm going to replace my cd burner, I want a dvd >burner. they're a little more in price. I'm looking at $200 in my area. >Considering I earn $400 a week, before tax, those things are utter luxeries. >Think fellas. Not everyone has disposable income. Ok, I "think" I will take you up on that. There should be enough space in your box for _another_ drive, giving you the ability to copy music cds directly by using the dvd for source. A new dvd reader costs a whopping $50 http://www.scorptec.com.au/index.php?catid=00000007&subid=00000113 If you insist on getting a dvd BURNER, considered luxury until just a few moments ago, only the 8x high end models cost $200. A 4x costs ~$150 http://www.scorptec.com.au/index.php?catid=00000036&subid=00000333 No further comments. j -- Jørgen Sundvor Smith mail: jorgen%smith.net

Its your choice to replace it with a DVD Burner instead of with a DVD Drive Don't compare apples to oranges, two different things that do not cost the same While I do not agree with calling him sad for not having a DVD Drive, using a DVD Burner as an example does not pertain to this. I also have to wonder, pc gamers can pay 5x (sometimes up to 8x to 10x more) the amount of a DVD drive for a Graphics Card but then complain about the cost of a DVD drive? Especially when the DVD drive is a general use item that will be used for many things other than loading a game that they bought "Steve Whitty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:40833867$0$4543$[email hidden]... > What a sad bunch you lot are. thinking someone is a loser or pitiful > because they can't keep up with the latest hardware!! a dvd drive herein > Australia aint cheep. If I'm going to replace my cd burner, I want a dvd > burner. they're a little more in price. I'm looking at $200 in my area. > Considering I earn $400 a week, before tax, those things are utterluxeries.

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> Think fellas. Not everyone has disposable income. > > Steve > > > > "Jasper" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:c5v48e$gs1$[email hidden]... > > Good grief DVD drives only cost �17 its not that much to bring your > machine > > up to date. > > > > "Destroy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:Juxgc.62032$[email hidden]... > > > Guess they don't want too many sales do they? I was on the fence about > > > buying this one. Then I saw it was only $30 (nice) but..I only saw a

DVD > > > version?!! I don't care at this point to spend another $50 having toget

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> > > a cheap DVD drive along with it. So I passed on it. > > > > > > I'm surprised they aren't offering both CD and DVD formats like some > > > other games. > > > > > > DVD driver are becoming the standard but they are not THE standard yet > > > CodeMasters. > > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.658 / Virus Database: 421 - Release Date: 10/04/2004 > > > > > >

like I said. not everyone HAS disposable income. you don't get what I was on about. You put someone down because they didn't have the latest hardware. as for me. as you put it. a wopping $50. to me, thats either no petrol in the car. some of the house payment doesn't get paid. my kid doesn't eat for the week. So please put brain into gear before engaging mouth. any upgrade to the computer in many households IS considered a luxury. Steve "J�rgen Sundvor Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:23:48 +1000, "Steve Whitty" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >What a sad bunch you lot are. thinking someone is a loser or pitiful > >because they can't keep up with the latest hardware!! a dvd drive herein > >Australia aint cheep. If I'm going to replace my cd burner, I want a dvd > >burner. they're a little more in price. I'm looking at $200 in my area. > >Considering I earn $400 a week, before tax, those things are utterluxeries.

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> >Think fellas. Not everyone has disposable income. > > Ok, I "think" I will take you up on that. > > There should be enough space in your box for _another_ drive, giving > you the ability to copy music cds directly by using the dvd for > source. > > A new dvd reader costs a whopping $50 > http://www.scorptec.com.au/index.php?catid=00000007&subid=00000113 > > If you insist on getting a dvd BURNER, considered luxury until just a > few moments ago, only the 8x high end models cost $200. A 4x costs > ~$150 > > http://www.scorptec.com.au/index.php?catid=00000036&subid=00000333 > > > No further comments. > > j > > -- > J�rgen Sundvor Smith mail: jorgen%smith.net

On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 13:30:09 +1000, "Steve Whitty" <[email hidden]> wrote: >as for me. as you put it. a wopping $50. to me, thats either no petrol in >the car. some of the house payment doesn't get paid. my kid doesn't eat >for the week. > >So please put brain into gear before engaging mouth. My stupid brain must obviously have been confused that the conversation was linked to the buying of a $100 computer game. >any upgrade to the computer in many households IS considered a luxury. and buying said game isn't? -- Jørgen Sundvor Smith mail: jorgen%smith.net

> So please put brain into gear before engaging mouth. > > any upgrade to the computer in many households IS considered a luxury. If that's the case, then what on earth would somebody be doing with a PC capable of running TRD2?

"J�rgen Sundvor Smith" wrote in message > My stupid brain must obviously have been confused that the conversationwas linked to the buying of a $100 computer game. yes it is, the original poster was getting belittled because he didn't have the latest hardware. and yes, buying of pc games in some households is also a luxury. Steve

No Steve the original poster wasnt being belittled for that at all. He was being belittled for his stupidity,and his apparent desire to show it publicly in here. AD "Steve Whitty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4083a8b8$0$12481$[email hidden]... > > "J�rgen Sundvor Smith" wrote in message > > My stupid brain must obviously have been confused that the conversation > was linked to the buying of a $100 computer game. > > yes it is, the original poster was getting belittled because he didn'thave

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> the latest hardware. > > and yes, buying of pc games in some households is also a luxury. > > Steve > >

if the content of his original post was wrong, couldn't he have been corrected in a more civilised manner. No-one deserves the response that he got. But I suppose we all can't be like you and so perfect and correct in everything we say or do. Steve "AD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:c609j1$rg9$[email hidden]... > No Steve the original poster wasnt being belittled for that at all. > > He was being belittled for his stupidity,and his apparent desire to showit

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> publicly in here. > > AD > "Steve Whitty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:4083a8b8$0$12481$[email hidden]... > > > > "J�rgen Sundvor Smith" wrote in message > > > My stupid brain must obviously have been confused that the

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> > was linked to the buying of a $100 computer game. > > > > yes it is, the original poster was getting belittled because he didn't > have > > the latest hardware. > > > > and yes, buying of pc games in some households is also a luxury. > > > > Steve > > > > > >

Steve,you revert to type so easily with that stereotypical response. He owns a pc,a new game comes out on DVD (something which we have known was on it's way for a while now) so he gets on his soapbox and slags off the company Codemasters for making this decision because he hasnt got a dvd rom.....the same dvd roms that cost �16 at my supplier. The reply was in keeping with his tone at Codemasters and was sufficiently tongue in cheek to get a nice variation in replies.Always good on a public opinion stage. After reading all replies I know for sure the original poster is talking crap and should easily be able to get a cheap dvd rom if he badly wants the game. After all if thats the way things are going his small initial investment in the dvd rom should furnish his purchase of games for many a year to come. "Steve Whitty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4083ab21$0$4543$[email hidden]... > if the content of his original post was wrong, couldn't he have been > corrected in a more civilised manner. No-one deserves the response thathe

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> got. > But I suppose we all can't be like you and so perfect and correct in > everything we say or do. > > Steve > > "AD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:c609j1$rg9$[email hidden]... > > No Steve the original poster wasnt being belittled for that at all. > > > > He was being belittled for his stupidity,and his apparent desire to show > it > > publicly in here. > > > > AD > > "Steve Whitty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:4083a8b8$0$12481$[email hidden]... > > > > > > "J�rgen Sundvor Smith" wrote in message > > > > My stupid brain must obviously have been confused that the > conversation > > > was linked to the buying of a $100 computer game. > > > > > > yes it is, the original poster was getting belittled because he didn't > > have > > > the latest hardware. > > > > > > and yes, buying of pc games in some households is also a luxury. > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > >

It still doesn't justify the response that he got. steve "AD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:c60atn$shl$[email hidden]... > Steve,you revert to type so easily with that stereotypical response. > > He owns a pc,a new game comes out on DVD (something which we have knownwas

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> on it's way for a while now) so he gets on his soapbox and slags off the > company Codemasters for making this decision because he hasnt got a dvd > rom.....the same dvd roms that cost �16 at my supplier. > > The reply was in keeping with his tone at Codemasters and was sufficiently > tongue in cheek to get a nice variation in replies.Always good on a public > opinion stage. > > After reading all replies I know for sure the original poster is talking > crap and should easily be able to get a cheap dvd rom if he badly wants

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> the dvd rom should furnish his purchase of games for many a year to come. > "Steve Whitty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:4083ab21$0$4543$[email hidden]... > > if the content of his original post was wrong, couldn't he have been > > corrected in a more civilised manner. No-one deserves the response that > he > > got. > > But I suppose we all can't be like you and so perfect and correct in > > everything we say or do. > > > > Steve > > > > "AD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:c609j1$rg9$[email hidden]... > > > No Steve the original poster wasnt being belittled for that at all. > > > > > > He was being belittled for his stupidity,and his apparent desire to

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> > it > > > publicly in here. > > > > > > AD > > > "Steve Whitty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:4083a8b8$0$12481$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > "J�rgen Sundvor Smith" wrote in message > > > > > My stupid brain must obviously have been confused that the > > conversation > > > > was linked to the buying of a $100 computer game. > > > > > > > > yes it is, the original poster was getting belittled because he

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Cliff Roman wrote: > At one time people complained about having to buy 3.5" flopy drives instead > of using their 5.25s > Y'got that right, grandpa

Hey think of it this way then If buying a DVD drive is a luxery, as is buying a PC Game He just saved money since he can not buy the game. Codemasters did him a favor because now his "kid can eat for the week" "Steve Whitty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:408347fb$0$25655$[email hidden]... > like I said. not everyone HAS disposable income. > > you don't get what I was on about. You put someone down because theydidn't > have the latest hardware. > > as for me. as you put it. a wopping $50. to me, thats either no petrolin

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> the car. some of the house payment doesn't get paid. my kid doesn't eat > for the week. > > So please put brain into gear before engaging mouth. > > any upgrade to the computer in many households IS considered a luxury. > > Steve > > > > "J�rgen Sundvor Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:23:48 +1000, "Steve Whitty" <[email hidden]> > > wrote: > > > > >What a sad bunch you lot are. thinking someone is a loser or pitiful > > >because they can't keep up with the latest hardware!! a dvd drive

here > in > > >Australia aint cheep. If I'm going to replace my cd burner, I want advd > > >burner. they're a little more in price. I'm looking at $200 in myarea.

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> > >Considering I earn $400 a week, before tax, those things are utter > luxeries. > > >Think fellas. Not everyone has disposable income. > > > > Ok, I "think" I will take you up on that. > > > > There should be enough space in your box for _another_ drive, giving > > you the ability to copy music cds directly by using the dvd for > > source. > > > > A new dvd reader costs a whopping $50 > > http://www.scorptec.com.au/index.php?catid=00000007&subid=00000113 > > > > If you insist on getting a dvd BURNER, considered luxury until just a > > few moments ago, only the 8x high end models cost $200. A 4x costs > > ~$150 > > > > http://www.scorptec.com.au/index.php?catid=00000036&subid=00000333 > > > > > > No further comments. > > > > j > > > > -- > > J�rgen Sundvor Smith mail: jorgen%smith.net > >

you know, its people like the first reponder to the origianl post that are really making me wonder why I visit this newsgroup. Egotistical, eletist and judgemental people absolutely piss me off. Destroy had not flamed or abused anyone in the newsgroup. just stated his view on the game being released on DVD only. The first reply was to call him a moron. totally uncalled for. That was the intent of my original post. Yes cliff, they may have done him a favour. They certainly have done me one. I only buy a couple of games a year. Upgrade the puter only when it wont cut the grade anymore. the first part of this post wasn't aimed at you either. Your posts have been civil. But as usual, there are people in this newsgroup that believe their own bulls**t. Steve "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:cyYgc.19617$hw5.28334@attbi_s53...

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> Hey think of it this way then > > If buying a DVD drive is a luxery, as is buying a PC Game > > He just saved money since he can not buy the game. Codemasters did him a > favor because now his "kid can eat for the week" > > > "Steve Whitty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:408347fb$0$25655$[email hidden]... > > like I said. not everyone HAS disposable income. > > > > you don't get what I was on about. You put someone down because they > didn't > > have the latest hardware. > > > > as for me. as you put it. a wopping $50. to me, thats either no

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> > for the week. > > > > So please put brain into gear before engaging mouth. > > > > any upgrade to the computer in many households IS considered a luxury. > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > "J�rgen Sundvor Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:23:48 +1000, "Steve Whitty" <[email hidden]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > >What a sad bunch you lot are. thinking someone is a loser or pitiful > > > >because they can't keep up with the latest hardware!! a dvd drive > here > > in > > > >Australia aint cheep. If I'm going to replace my cd burner, I want a > dvd > > > >burner. they're a little more in price. I'm looking at $200 in my > area. > > > >Considering I earn $400 a week, before tax, those things are utter > > luxeries. > > > >Think fellas. Not everyone has disposable income. > > > > > > Ok, I "think" I will take you up on that. > > > > > > There should be enough space in your box for _another_ drive, giving > > > you the ability to copy music cds directly by using the dvd for > > > source. > > > > > > A new dvd reader costs a whopping $50 > > > http://www.scorptec.com.au/index.php?catid=00000007&subid=00000113 > > > > > > If you insist on getting a dvd BURNER, considered luxury until just a > > > few moments ago, only the 8x high end models cost $200. A 4x costs > > > ~$150 > > > > > > http://www.scorptec.com.au/index.php?catid=00000036&subid=00000333 > > > > > > > > > No further comments. > > > > > > j > > > > > > -- > > > J�rgen Sundvor Smith mail: jorgen%smith.net > > > > > >

I agree with you that it was wrong to slam the guy.. .but I do agree with the overall "thought" of this thread DVD Drives are the future.. while I do not think that CD-Roms will ever completely go away (at least not until they are no longer backward compatable.. in other words when something else comes out down the road to replace even DVD drives), more and more software will be released on DVDs due to size and cost considerations. Since DVD Drives are so cheap these days ($35 US), a person is definately in the minority these days if they do not have one. Software companies know this and they know that the non-dvd drive owner is becoming a bigger minority day by day. "Steve Whitty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4084664a$0$20085$[email hidden]... > you know, its people like the first reponder to the origianl post that are > really making me wonder why I visit this newsgroup. Egotistical, eletist > and judgemental people absolutely piss me off. > Destroy had not flamed or abused anyone in the newsgroup. just statedhis > view on the game being released on DVD only. The first reply was to callhim > a moron. totally uncalled for. That was the intent of my original post. > > Yes cliff, they may have done him a favour. They certainly have done me > one. I only buy a couple of games a year. Upgrade the puter only when it > wont cut the grade anymore. the first part of this post wasn't aimed atyou > either. Your posts have been civil. But as usual, there are people inthis

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> newsgroup that believe their own bulls**t. > > Steve > > "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:cyYgc.19617$hw5.28334@attbi_s53... > > Hey think of it this way then > > > > If buying a DVD drive is a luxery, as is buying a PC Game > > > > He just saved money since he can not buy the game. Codemasters did him a > > favor because now his "kid can eat for the week" > > > > > > "Steve Whitty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:408347fb$0$25655$[email hidden]... > > > like I said. not everyone HAS disposable income. > > > > > > you don't get what I was on about. You put someone down because they > > didn't > > > have the latest hardware. > > > > > > as for me. as you put it. a wopping $50. to me, thats either no > petrol > > in > > > the car. some of the house payment doesn't get paid. my kid doesn't > eat > > > for the week. > > > > > > So please put brain into gear before engaging mouth. > > > > > > any upgrade to the computer in many households IS considered a luxury. > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > "J�rgen Sundvor Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:23:48 +1000, "Steve Whitty"

<[email hidden]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >What a sad bunch you lot are. thinking someone is a loser orpitiful > > > > >because they can't keep up with the latest hardware!! a dvd drive > > here > > > in > > > > >Australia aint cheep. If I'm going to replace my cd burner, I wanta

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> > dvd > > > > >burner. they're a little more in price. I'm looking at $200 in my > > area. > > > > >Considering I earn $400 a week, before tax, those things are utter > > > luxeries. > > > > >Think fellas. Not everyone has disposable income. > > > > > > > > Ok, I "think" I will take you up on that. > > > > > > > > There should be enough space in your box for _another_ drive, giving > > > > you the ability to copy music cds directly by using the dvd for > > > > source. > > > > > > > > A new dvd reader costs a whopping $50 > > > > http://www.scorptec.com.au/index.php?catid=00000007&subid=00000113 > > > > > > > > If you insist on getting a dvd BURNER, considered luxury until just

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> > > > few moments ago, only the 8x high end models cost $200. A 4x costs > > > > ~$150 > > > > > > > > http://www.scorptec.com.au/index.php?catid=00000036&subid=00000333 > > > > > > > > > > > > No further comments. > > > > > > > > j > > > > > > > > -- > > > > J�rgen Sundvor Smith mail: jorgen%smith.net > > > > > > > > > > > >

Exactly my thoughts. Your reply then, is what would've been more appropriate to the original post. oh, you can put me in that minority group:o) will join the majority when I absolutely have to. I like to be different:) well, I've been on my soapbox for the week. time to go back into my hole:-) cheer fellas steve "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Pn%gc.30220$yD1.86794@attbi_s54...

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> I agree with you that it was wrong to slam the guy.. .but I do agree with > the overall "thought" of this thread > > DVD Drives are the future.. while I do not think that CD-Roms will ever > completely go away (at least not until they are no longer backward > compatable.. in other words when something else comes out down the road to > replace even DVD drives), more and more software will be released on DVDs > due to size and cost considerations. > > Since DVD Drives are so cheap these days ($35 US), a person is definately

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> the minority these days if they do not have one. Software companies know > this and they know that the non-dvd drive owner is becoming a bigger > minority day by day. > > > "Steve Whitty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:4084664a$0$20085$[email hidden]... > > you know, its people like the first reponder to the origianl post that

are > > really making me wonder why I visit this newsgroup. Egotistical,eletist > > and judgemental people absolutely piss me off. > > Destroy had not flamed or abused anyone in the newsgroup. just stated > his > > view on the game being released on DVD only. The first reply was to call > him > > a moron. totally uncalled for. That was the intent of my originalpost. > > > > Yes cliff, they may have done him a favour. They certainly have done me > > one. I only buy a couple of games a year. Upgrade the puter only whenit

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> > wont cut the grade anymore. the first part of this post wasn't aimed at > you > > either. Your posts have been civil. But as usual, there are people in > this > > newsgroup that believe their own bulls**t. > > > > Steve > > > > "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:cyYgc.19617$hw5.28334@attbi_s53... > > > Hey think of it this way then > > > > > > If buying a DVD drive is a luxery, as is buying a PC Game > > > > > > He just saved money since he can not buy the game. Codemasters did him

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> > > favor because now his "kid can eat for the week" > > > > > > > > > "Steve Whitty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:408347fb$0$25655$[email hidden]... > > > > like I said. not everyone HAS disposable income. > > > > > > > > you don't get what I was on about. You put someone down because they > > > didn't > > > > have the latest hardware. > > > > > > > > as for me. as you put it. a wopping $50. to me, thats either no > > petrol > > > in > > > > the car. some of the house payment doesn't get paid. my kid

doesn't > > eat > > > > for the week. > > > > > > > > So please put brain into gear before engaging mouth. > > > > > > > > any upgrade to the computer in many households IS considered aluxury.

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> > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "J�rgen Sundvor Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:23:48 +1000, "Steve Whitty" > <[email hidden]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >What a sad bunch you lot are. thinking someone is a loser or > pitiful > > > > > >because they can't keep up with the latest hardware!! a dvd

drive > > > here > > > > in > > > > > >Australia aint cheep. If I'm going to replace my cd burner, Iwant > a > > > dvd > > > > > >burner. they're a little more in price. I'm looking at $200 inmy > > > area. > > > > > >Considering I earn $400 a week, before tax, those things areutter > > > > luxeries. > > > > > >Think fellas. Not everyone has disposable income. > > > > > > > > > > Ok, I "think" I will take you up on that. > > > > > > > > > > There should be enough space in your box for _another_ drive,giving

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> > > > > you the ability to copy music cds directly by using the dvd for > > > > > source. > > > > > > > > > > A new dvd reader costs a whopping $50 > > > > > http://www.scorptec.com.au/index.php?catid=00000007&subid=00000113 > > > > > > > > > > If you insist on getting a dvd BURNER, considered luxury until

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> a > > > > > few moments ago, only the 8x high end models cost $200. A 4x costs > > > > > ~$150 > > > > > > > > > > http://www.scorptec.com.au/index.php?catid=00000036&subid=00000333 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No further comments. > > > > > > > > > > j > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > J�rgen Sundvor Smith mail: jorgen%smith.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Like I said, DVD-ROM drive have been around for 6 years. I actually think game makers have been a bit slow to start using DVDs. You're right though - the original response by AD was uncalled for.