F1RS: Suzuka Accurate?

Well I just finished running there a little. I just cannot see anything that bad with the track to get e***d about. Again as with Hungary the elevations appear to be there, it just may not be enough for some people. Oh well... -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

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> Well I just finished running there a little. I just cannot see anything > that bad with the track to get e***d about. Again as with Hungary > the elevations appear to be there, it just may not be enough for > some people. Oh well... > -- > Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

Hi Greg. The main problem with Suzuka in F1RS is the first section of the track, where you turn right,left,right,left,right,and finally left! There are hardly any elevation changes in this section but in real life there are, especially the last long left. In real life that is going straight uphill. But I take the same outlook as you do; these small differences from reality have no effect on my enjoyment of the sim. -Dan P

>Hi Greg. The main problem with Suzuka in F1RS is the first section of the >track, where you turn right,left,right,left,right,and finally left! There >are hardly any elevation changes in this section but in real life there >are, especially the last long left. In real life that is going straight Yes I think these elevation changes are slight, but there. In GP2 the changes where much more apparent. I guess I will have to wait for Suzuka to check the incar camera. Or maybe I can dig up an old tape (if I haven't erased it). -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

% >Hi Greg. The main problem with Suzuka in F1RS is the first section of the % >track, where you turn right,left,right,left,right,and finally left! There % >are hardly any elevation changes in this section but in real life there % >are, especially the last long left. In real life that is going straight % Yes I think these elevation changes are slight, but there. In GP2 the % changes % where much more apparent. I guess I will have to wait for Suzuka to check % the % incar camera. Or maybe I can dig up an old tape (if I haven't erased it). Where else but r.a.s., can we beat an old horse to death? And since we are talking F1, I guess this would be the "prancing horse" ;-) Anway, yeah, GP2 had elevation changes. However, I never really felt they were there other than looks. It never really seemd that more effort was needed to climb a grade. It appeared that one was going up (or down) a grade visually, but I never really "felt" that the car acted as if it was going up or down a grade. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

>there other than looks. It never really seemd that more effort was >needed to climb a grade. It appeared that one was going up (or down) a >grade visually, but I never really "felt" that the car acted as if it >was going up or down a grade. I agree about GP2, much different feel in F1RS IMHO... -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

On Tue, 3 Feb 1998 07:56:59 -0600, "Greg Cisko" >>there other than looks. It never really seemd that more effort was >>needed to climb a grade. It appeared that one was going up (or down) a >>grade visually, but I never really "felt" that the car acted as if it >>was going up or down a grade. >I agree about GP2, much different feel in F1RS IMHO... Why doesn't that surprise me... ;-) Cheers! John

<g> They did have an effect in the corners (*that* chicane at Estoril, Adelaide hairpin at Magny-Cours, Hobbs at TI Aida, etc). I always thought that uphill corners were supposed to reduce oversteer, not increase it though :( Cheers, Richard

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>On Sun, 1 Feb 1998 18:53:53 -0600, "Greg Cisko" >>Well I just finished running there a little. I just cannot see anything >>that bad with the track to get e***d about. Again as with Hungary >>the elevations appear to be there, it just may not be enough for >>some people. Oh well... >Greg, you're just being ridiculous now, either that or showing how >little you know about Suzuka.

If you say so it is OK with me. I guess I don't know Suzuka that well, even though I have watched all the GPs there since 87 or so. Sennas come from behind win there was the best race I've seen IMHO. Ridiculous? Huh. -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

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>-- >Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. >>uphill. But I take the same outlook as you do; these small differences >>from reality have no effect on my enjoyment of the sim. >>-Dan P

Yes, this ruined my first impression of F1RS. I jumped in at Suzuka, which I knew best from GP2 and thought, whoa, what's going on here? I did notice later that there are slight elevation changes but they still seem too slight to me. Other coures seem to be too flat, but others are good. Brian -- remove 'bye' from address to reply

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> Well I just finished running there a little. I just cannot see anything > that bad with the track to get e***d about. Again as with Hungary > the elevations appear to be there, it just may not be enough for > some people. Oh well... > -- > Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

Well, put it this way. The Japs are up in arms about Suzuka! It's sure as hell a lot different to GP2!

On Sun, 1 Feb 1998 18:53:53 -0600, "Greg Cisko" >Well I just finished running there a little. I just cannot see anything >that bad with the track to get e***d about. Again as with Hungary >the elevations appear to be there, it just may not be enough for >some people. Oh well... Greg, you're just being ridiculous now, either that or showing how little you know about Suzuka. It is ridiculously understated as regards elevation, and I know the track extremely well both in sims and real life. Cheers! John

(snip) I know the track extremely well both in sims and real life. (unsnip) You've actually driven the circuit, John, or just been there as a spectator? -- Bruce (at work) "Laziness is nothing more than the habit of resting before you get tired." (Jules Renard)

On Wed, 04 Feb 1998 13:58:54 +1100, Bruce Kennewell >You've actually driven the circuit, John, or just been there as a >spectator? Both. Cheers! John

On Tue, 3 Feb 1998 21:26:54 -0600, "Greg Cisko"

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>>Greg, you're just being ridiculous now, either that or showing how >>little you know about Suzuka. >If you say so it is OK with me. I guess I don't know Suzuka that >well, even though I have watched all the GPs there since 87 or >so. Sennas come from behind win there was the best race I've >seen IMHO. >Ridiculous? Huh.

Getting more so, I'm afraid :(. Do you ever actually *look* at the tracks? Cheers, Richard

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>On Tue, 3 Feb 1998 21:26:54 -0600, "Greg Cisko" >>>Greg, you're just being ridiculous now, either that or showing how >>>little you know about Suzuka. >>If you say so it is OK with me. I guess I don't know Suzuka that >>well, even though I have watched all the GPs there since 87 or >>so. Sennas come from behind win there was the best race I've >>seen IMHO. >>Ridiculous? Huh. >Getting more so, I'm afraid :(. Do you ever actually *look* at the >tracks?

Yep. Maybe I think you guys are getting ridiculous now. Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

What type of car(s)? -- Bruce (at work) "How can I believe in God when just last week I got my tongue caught in the roller of an electric typewriter?" (Woody Allen)

Never realized that it was possible to be more nitpicky than a flight simmer...but its evident that I was wrong. PAPA DOC >Yep. Maybe I think you guys are getting ridiculous now. >Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. >>Cheers, >>Richard

On Tue, 3 Feb 1998 21:26:54 -0600, "Greg Cisko" >If you say so it is OK with me. I guess I don't know Suzuka that >well, even though I have watched all the GPs there since 87 or >so. Sennas come from behind win there was the best race I've >seen IMHO. 1988? I kinda liked 1990 as well, but then I've never really liked Prost :-) Cheers! John

On Thu, 05 Feb 1998 09:32:05 +1100, Bruce Kennewell >What type of car(s)? Drove a race-prep Skiyline GT-R, watched F1 (1991, and hoping for Prost v's Senna III when I bought the ticket). Cheers! John