GP3 and weather

Hi, I hope Microprose reads this. In future release of GP3 it's very important that the weather is an option that COULD BE DISABLED. Exactly like the "car realism" in GP2. If not, well forget this F1 simulator for GP-leagues because driving circumstances would vary in the different races driven by the league members which is unfair of course and will make competition impossible. So the future release of this simulator will loose a lot of interest among GP drivers and especially members of a GP League. Hope that MP realizes this !!! Rgds, Marc Biesmans, Belgium

is an option that COULD BE DISABLED. ... because driving circumstances would vary in the different races driven by the ( racing ) league members which is unfair of course and will make competition impossible. << I think a solution would be the ability to save an events' weather profile so that it could be distributed to the members of a racing league. In addition, I think it would be an excellent feature if it were possible to manually construct a weather profile. In this way one could create the same weather situation in the sim that occurred in real-world F1. A nice touch I think. Either way, computer generated weather or manually constructed weather, as long as such can be distributed amongst league members then we should have the best of all worlds. Cheers Phillip McNelley

> I think a solution would be the ability to save an events' weather profile > so that it could be distributed to the members of a racing league. Since we drive in teams it will be hard not to tell the other team mate how the weather was, if one drove ones race first, would it not? Another possibility is to drive the race first just to check the weather, and the do ones off-line race planning for the weather. I would of course never do so, but I'm not as stupid to believe that everybody else wouldn't :o). Several of my colleagues at work ask me why I dont redo my races whenever I crash out. My answer is always - Sim racing will develop to be an online event pretty soon and if I cant produce the same results online as I did offline, then I'd look really stupid, wouldn't I :o). I dont think every sim racer think about it this way, but I do :o). Since we all watch the real F1, it wouldn't be much of a surprise as it is in real F1. We could plan for the rain coming down after half the race and there would be no gamble. /Christer, not being helpful am I :o)?

Yes the unknown-weather-factor doesn't have an obvious solution when it comes to creating or swapping weather profiles around. The only think that comes to mind is an honour system which applies to a number of elements of sim league racing anyway. I used to be in a racing league once where the honour system seemed to work very well. If someone crashed out in the 1st lap they'd say so etc. Of course such a system is only as good as the integrity of its members and ultimately there is no way of policing it. ( looks like my Internet time is used up for the month so I'm off line till 1-2-98. :-( Bye Phillip McNelley

Philip, At this time neither Geoff Crammond or MicroProse is not looking at publishing another Grand Prix racing game, despite the incorrect rumours to the contray on various WWW sites. If we decide to publish ANY product we always issue a press release and this can be viewed on our web site, http://www.microprose.com Mark Rich/MicroProse-Europe ********** >>> I hope ... In future release of GP3 it's very important that the weather >is an option that COULD BE DISABLED. ... because driving circumstances would >vary in the different races driven by the ( racing ) league members which is >unfair of course and will make competition impossible. << >I think a solution would be the ability to save an events' weather profile >so that it could be distributed to the members of a racing league. >In addition, I think it would be an excellent feature if it were possible to >manually construct a weather profile. In this way one could create the same >weather situation in the sim that occurred in real-world F1. A nice touch I

Quoted text (9 lines)

>think. >Either way, computer generated weather or manually constructed weather, as >long as such can be distributed amongst league members then we should have >the best of all worlds. >Cheers >Phillip McNelley

On Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:09:55 -0000, "Mark J Rich"

Quoted text (7 lines)

>Philip, >At this time neither Geoff Crammond or MicroProse is not looking at >publishing another Grand Prix racing game, despite the incorrect rumours to >the contray on various WWW sites. If we decide to publish ANY product we >always issue a press release and this can be viewed on our web site, >http://www.microprose.com

Ha HA! A carefully crafted double-negative ; If neither Geoff Crammond or Microprose are NOT looking at another racing sim, that must mean that either or both of them are! Good news, good news.... Just kidding Mark :-) Cheers! John

Quoted text (31 lines)

>Mark Rich/MicroProse-Europe >********** >>>> I hope ... In future release of GP3 it's very important that the weather >>is an option that COULD BE DISABLED. ... because driving circumstances >would >>vary in the different races driven by the ( racing ) league members which >is >>unfair of course and will make competition impossible. << >>I think a solution would be the ability to save an events' weather profile >>so that it could be distributed to the members of a racing league. >>In addition, I think it would be an excellent feature if it were possible >to >>manually construct a weather profile. In this way one could create the same >>weather situation in the sim that occurred in real-world F1. A nice touch >I >>think. >>Either way, computer generated weather or manually constructed weather, as >>long as such can be distributed amongst league members then we should have >>the best of all worlds. >>Cheers >>Phillip McNelley

Mark, Does Geoff still work for Microprose at all? As I'm wondering whether you mean he is not looking at publishing another grand prix racing game *with* Microprose. But presumeably, if he doesn't work for Microprose, or with Microprose, he could be working on another game on his own, or with his own team, or with another company? 8?) * Peter * 8-) Please remove asterix from address to email.

Quoted text (13 lines)

>> At this time neither Geoff Crammond or MicroProse is not looking at >> publishing another Grand Prix racing game, despite the incorrect rum >> ours to >> the contray on various WWW sites. If we decide to publish ANY produ >> ct we >> always issue a press release and this can be viewed on our web site, >Mark, >Does Geoff still work for Microprose at all? >As I'm wondering whether you mean he is not looking at publishing >another grand prix racing game *with* Microprose.

Mark, if Micropose is not looking at publishing a new game, and has had to pull GP2 off of the shelves due to licensing concerns, why do you continue to monitor this group? Inquiring minds would like to know! Bob Bess.

WOW Support from MicroProse!!! :-)

Quoted text (39 lines)

> Philip, > At this time neither Geoff Crammond or MicroProse is not looking at > publishing another Grand Prix racing game, despite the incorrect rumours to > the contray on various WWW sites. If we decide to publish ANY product we > always issue a press release and this can be viewed on our web site, > http://www.microprose.com > Mark Rich/MicroProse-Europe > ********** > >>> I hope ... In future release of GP3 it's very important that the weather > >is an option that COULD BE DISABLED. ... because driving circumstances > would > >vary in the different races driven by the ( racing ) league members which > is > >unfair of course and will make competition impossible. << > >I think a solution would be the ability to save an events' weather profile > >so that it could be distributed to the members of a racing league. > >In addition, I think it would be an excellent feature if it were possible > to > >manually construct a weather profile. In this way one could create the same > >weather situation in the sim that occurred in real-world F1. A nice touch > I > >think. > >Either way, computer generated weather or manually constructed weather, as > >long as such can be distributed amongst league members then we should have > >the best of all worlds. > >Cheers > >Phillip McNelley

-- Thank You Marc Johnson Outside of a dog, a book is a mans best friend. Inside a dog, it is too dark to read -Mark Twain

Quoted text (12 lines)

>Philip, >At this time neither Geoff Crammond or MicroProse is not looking at >publishing another Grand Prix racing game, despite the incorrect rumours to >the contray on various WWW sites. If we decide to publish ANY product we >always issue a press release and this can be viewed on our web site, >http://www.microprose.com >Mark Rich/MicroProse-Europe >**********

Microprose and Crammond are BOTH working on another Grand Prix racing game? Can you say "double negative"? Is this meant to be a confirmation or denial? -- Pat Dotson

This day will stay in history as the first step from Microprose into rec.autos.simulators, 2years too late. Wow I have tearns in my eye. Wow let's celebrate this. Champagne, anybody ? >> Philip, >> At this time neither Geoff Crammond or MicroProse is not looking at >> publishing another Grand Prix racing game, despite the incorrect rumours to >> the contray on various WWW sites. If we decide to publish ANY product we >> always issue a press release and this can be viewed on our web site, >> http://www.microprose.com >> Mark Rich/MicroProse-Europe begin 666 ymenard.vcf M0D5'24XZ5D-!4D0-"DXZ3>EN87)D.T9R86[G;VES.TXN#0I&3CIY;65N87)D M3#M#14Q,.U9/24-%.DXO00T*5$5,.TA/344[1D%8.DXO00T*0412.TA/344Z M.SLQ,30V.2!/=FED92U#;&5R;6]N=#M-;VYT<F5A;"U.;W)D.U%U96)E8SM( M3E1!0DQ%.C$Q-#8Y($]V:61E+4-L97)M;VYT/3!$/3!!36]N=')E86PM3F]R M+F%W<'-S+F-O;2\-"E523#IH='1P.B\O=W=W+F%W<'-S+F-O;2\-"D5-04E, M.U!2148[24Y415).150Z>6UE;F%R9$!A=W!S<RYC;VT-"D5.1#I60T%21 T* ` end

Quoted text (23 lines)

> This day will stay in history as the first step from Microprose into > rec.autos.simulators, 2years too late. Wow I have tearns in my eye. > Wow let's celebrate this. Champagne, anybody ? > >> Philip, > >> At this time neither Geoff Crammond or MicroProse is not looking at > >> publishing another Grand Prix racing game, despite the incorrect rumours > to > >> the contray on various WWW sites. If we decide to publish ANY product we > >> always issue a press release and this can be viewed on our web site, > >> http://www.microprose.com > >> Mark Rich/MicroProse-Europe > Name: ymenard.vcf > Part 1.2 Type: unspecified type (application/octet-stream) > Encoding: x-uuencode

"neither Geoff Crammond or MicroProse is not looking at". This has got my head spinning. "neither" is "not looking"? Does this mean they have ruled it out or that they have not? Should this say "neither *are* looking at............"?????????????

Be nice if the shagwits had actually released Gp2 complete in the first place instead of the half finished product it was. (Good nonetheless, but not anywhere near as good as it could have been.) These idiot games developers make me sick releasing half finished products. But then people will buy them, which means we continue to get f*cked over by the games companies. 10 minutes alone with them with nothing but a baseball bat would do the trick... Beat their sorry asses until they mend their ways.

Quoted text (10 lines)

>>> Philip, >>> At this time neither Geoff Crammond or MicroProse is not looking at >>> publishing another Grand Prix racing game, despite the incorrect rumours >to >>> the contray on various WWW sites. If we decide to publish ANY product we >>> always issue a press release and this can be viewed on our web site, >>> http://www.microprose.com >>> Mark Rich/MicroProse-Europe

--- The Chrome Plated Megaphone of Destiny

Blame yourself. Right! Microprose made ONE key-mistake leading to the bad state GP-2 is in ever since it's release: Mention it being developed. Ever since MP said ANYTHING, even insignificant, they were asked time and time and time again when GP2 was to be finished/released. The presure became so great, they were "forced" to release an in-complete product. Hence, it's NOT the great simulator it was supposed to be. Again, blame yourself for the "debacle" that is GP2.

Errrr... Actually, Mark has been here a few times before.. You should read r.a.s. more regularly :-) JoH Please remove *anti-spam* from the email when replying. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= When everything else failed, we can still become im- mortal by making an enormous blunder.... John Kenneth Galbraith =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=