F1rs

This f1rs game is ***ing HARD even on easy level, it reminds me of indycar racing 1 on the street circuits, I can not do a lap with out going of at least 10 times, it looks the business but unplayable. Long live GP2, f1rs is not fit to wipe it's arse.

Perhaps a little more practice would be in order? Being a sim novice, I was not surprised when I had trouble staying on the track and keeping from spinning. After a few hours of practice, however, and a few single race tries, I'm doing a lot better. Comparing F1RS to GP2, it seems to me that F1RS requires a lot more care in handling the car. Overcompensating with steering corrections will make you lose control a lot more easily in F1RS than GP2. And on the "EASY" setting, with all aids on, it was quite easy to win pole and dust the field (and I would be the one dusted by any intermediate to serious sim racer here). So I'm not sure if "***ing HARD" is a quality inherent in the game, or lies elsewhere... > This f1rs game is ***ing HARD even on easy level, it reminds me of indycar > racing 1 on the street circuits, I can not do a lap with out going of at > least 10 times, it looks the business but unplayable. > Long live GP2, f1rs is not fit to wipe it's arse.

Is this a troll? If not let me know so I can flame you for being lame :-) -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. >This f1rs game is ***ing HARD even on easy level, it reminds me of indycar >racing 1 on the street circuits, I can not do a lap with out going of at >least 10 times, it looks the business but unplayable. >Long live GP2, f1rs is not fit to wipe it's arse.

>This f1rs game is ***ing HARD even on easy level, it reminds me of indycar >racing 1 on the street circuits, I can not do a lap with out going of at >least 10 times, it looks the business but unplayable. >Long live GP2, f1rs is not fit to wipe it's arse. Do you have a steering wheel? If you don't you really should get one as that is probably what is making it so hard (I haven't played the game using the keyboard, but know it is quite easy using a wheel). Also, if that is the case, why don't you mention it in the post so that people who do have steering wheels aren't turned off.

(snip) it looks the business but unplayable. (unsnip) Well........guess you just gotta get back into them arcades then, eh? -- Bruce (at work) "Laziness is nothing more than the habit of resting before you get tired." (Jules Renard)

Sheesh you have no pride whatsoever huh....I mean to come on a World Wide Forum and admit that some game is KICKING YOUR ASS severely then to BLAME the game...ooooh my thats some balls. I guess you suppose that driving an F1 car is easy...eh. And if you cant beat Shuey's record around SPA then the game sucks...yup yup that sounds like the criteria for a realistic game. You know GP2 was a neat game. I bet you werent very good at it either... Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand

I've been using a destiny wheel and pedals, I think this is the problem since I've used the keybourd it's alot easier, I don't get as much realism with the wheel in f1rs as I did in gp2 It's not as responsive.

And all of us with joysticks, keyboard, wheels are GODS to be able to run a race, 100% and finish in the points? GP-2 has an unrealistically stable car if you put the help in the control-config menu on. It's then acutally near impossible to go into a spin. Turn that off and see if Big Old GP-2 is still "Long Live GP2"

Perhaps you should be quiet now......go into the corner and think about what your gonna say.... Pierre Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand Infamous Pink Flamingo Pilot...

One thing I noticed in F1RS is to make sure you have "race car controller" selected in W95's controller setup. F1RS seems to switch between linear and non-linear steering depending on your W95 selection. Found this out while trying to setup my Nascar Pro with CH Pedals. Listed as a joystick I had huge center null zone as wheel null zone was gone. Way more percise.

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>Perhaps you should be quiet now......go into the corner and think >about what your gonna say.... >Pierre >>I've been using a destiny wheel and pedals, I think this is the problem >>since I've used the keybourd it's alot easier, I don't get as much realism >>with the wheel in f1rs as I did in gp2 It's not as responsive. >Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand >Infamous >Pink Flamingo Pilot...

Yes this was my problem, Thank you > One thing I noticed in F1RS is to make sure you have "race car controller" > selected in W95's controller setup. F1RS seems to switch between linear and

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> non-linear steering depending on your W95 selection. Found this out while > trying to setup my Nascar Pro with CH Pedals. Listed as a joystick I had > huge center null zone as wheel null zone was gone. Way more percise. > >Perhaps you should be quiet now......go into the corner and think > >about what your gonna say.... > >Pierre > >>I've been using a destiny wheel and pedals, I think this is the problem > >>since I've used the keybourd it's alot easier, I don't get as much

realism > >>with the wheel in f1rs as I did in gp2 It's not as responsive. > >Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand > >Infamous > >Pink Flamingo Pilot...

hehehhehe...pretty funny....damn must suck putting your foot in your mouth eh....maybe next time instead of trashing a sim you might ask nicely to see if anyone else has encountered your problem. Pierre

On Fri, 16 Jan 1998 12:04:01 -0000, "Mike Mellendorf" >One thing I noticed in F1RS is to make sure you have "race car controller" >selected in W95's controller setup. F1RS seems to switch between linear and >non-linear steering depending on your W95 selection. Found this out while >trying to setup my Nascar Pro with CH Pedals. Listed as a joystick I had >huge center null zone as wheel null zone was gone. Way more percise. I have looked and looked but cannot for the life of me find how to select "race car controller" in Win95. The instructions I got with my wheel (Advantage 1) say's that you get to it via the joystick applet and select "custom" and "special feature". ***ed if I can see them. Could it be that some versions of Win95 dont have that option? Tony

Could not wait hey :). So what's the verdict on the A1. I'm still waiting delivery. Do yourself a favor and download the ProPanel utility from www.thrustmaster.com you will find it in the support library. I'd select one of the Thrustmaster wheels as device 1. Then calibrate. You should click on the wheel symbol next to the DEVICE dialog and you will see a submenu with some choices. For whatever reason it always shows "rudders" checked when I switch to my racing gear. This shows up as device unplugged on the main page, and is very misleading. Just deselect rudders if it happens to you and all will be well. Dave.

>I've been using a destiny wheel and pedals, I think this is the problem >since I've used the keybourd it's alot easier, I don't get as much realism >with the wheel in f1rs as I did in gp2 It's not as responsive. I tried a Destiny for a while and the steering was quite jerky until I re-installed the wheel as a Custom device in the Control Panel -> Game Controllers. When you do this (I think it was 2-axis 4-button joystick) you can also specify "race car controller". This made things a whole lot better. Then the hardware broke :) So now I have a Nascar Pro/F1 Wheel :) Regards Neil

>Could not wait hey :). >So what's the verdict on the A1. I'm still waiting delivery. Hehe I've had 5 days off and needed something to keep myself busy with. I rang Jason Ferraro on Thursday and he had someone from the factory deliver it on Friday. He said I was desperate and must have felt sorry for me :) First thing you'll notice is that it's rather hefty. Both the wheel and pedals are solid and feel good. I noticed a slight spike with mine but it seems to have gone away, maybe the pots just needed running in. Very comfortable wheel and it's smaller than I expected. I guess I was expecting something like the size of the wheel in my Monaro :) It's probably comparable in size to a real F1 wheel. The G clamp works perfectly and the wheel wont budge from my desk. The pedals are very nice. They just feel perfect to me. I cant really say that i've noticed any difference in tension between brake and accelerator like some other pedals are supposed to do. I've actually got that util sitting on a CDR disc but you just reminded me I had it. I was saving it just for this occasion. I was a bit lost when it came to installation. Only because the instructions seem to describe something different to the joystick setup that's in my version of Win95. At first I had the wheel set up as a standard 2button 2axis joystick. No problems, it works fine like that. Then I found the "custom" option the instructions were on about. It tells you to select "racing car controller". I tried that and it also worked but it was much more sensitive. By this time I'd gotten used to the way it felt as a "joystick" and I'm still using that at the moment. F1RS is a blast with this wheel :) I'm very happy with it but cant compare it to anything else since it's the first wheel I've owned. Let me know what you think when you get yours. Tony

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> Sheesh you have no pride whatsoever huh....I mean to come on a World > Wide Forum and admit that some game is KICKING YOUR ASS severely then to > BLAME the game...ooooh my thats some balls. I guess you suppose that > driving an F1 car is easy...eh. And if you cant beat Shuey's record > around SPA then the game sucks...yup yup that sounds like the criteria > for a realistic game. > You know GP2 was a neat game. I bet you werent very good at it either... > Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand > >This f1rs game is ***ing HARD even on easy level, it reminds me of indycar > >racing 1 on the street circuits, I can not do a lap with out going of at > >least 10 times, it looks the business but unplayable. > >Long live GP2, f1rs is not fit to wipe it's arse.

I think you all missed the point. This is another MS employee. Maybe it's Bill imself, hehehehehehe.

There's no fooling you heh. > > Sheesh you have no pride whatsoever huh....I mean to come on a World > > Wide Forum and admit that some game is KICKING YOUR ASS severely then to > > BLAME the game...ooooh my thats some balls. I guess you suppose that > > driving an F1 car is easy...eh. And if you cant beat Shuey's record > > around SPA then the game sucks...yup yup that sounds like the criteria > > for a realistic game. > > You know GP2 was a neat game. I bet you werent very good at it either... > > Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand > > >This f1rs game is ***ing HARD even on easy level, it reminds me of indycar > > >racing 1 on the street circuits, I can not do a lap with out going of at > > >least 10 times, it looks the business but unplayable. > > >Long live GP2, f1rs is not fit to wipe it's arse. > I think you all missed the point. This is another MS employee. Maybe > it's Bill imself, hehehehehehe.

>This f1rs game is ***ing HARD even on easy level, it reminds me of indycar >racing 1 on the street circuits, I can not do a lap with out going of at >least 10 times, it looks the business but unplayable. >Long live GP2, f1rs is not fit to wipe it's arse. Perhaps you should try Power F1 by Psygnosis since you obviously appreciate a realistic racing simulation. Rob "Dead Meat"

Absolutely right. You can go to Microsoft's site and download a Game Controller Update that will be found somewhere lurking around the support files for the Sidewinder 3D Pro Joystick. After installing it, strange things may happen on your system, (no kidding) but you will have a completely different Control panel applet for the Game Controllers instead of Joystick. Happy Hunting. ---------------------------------------------------------- If You think health care is expensive now, wait till it's free! RR #3 Box 96 Williamsport, Pa. 17701 (717) 745-7697

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>>I have looked and looked but cannot for the life of me find how to >>select "race car controller" in Win95. >>The instructions I got with my wheel (Advantage 1) say's that you get >>to it via the joystick applet and select "custom" and "special >>feature". ***ed if I can see them. Could it be that some versions >>of Win95 dont have that option? >>Tony >Could not wait hey :). >So what's the verdict on the A1. I'm still waiting delivery. >Do yourself a favor and download the ProPanel utility from >www.thrustmaster.com you will find it in the support library. >I'd select one of the Thrustmaster wheels as device 1. Then calibrate. >You should click on the wheel symbol next to the DEVICE dialog and you >will see a submenu with some choices. For whatever reason it always >shows "rudders" checked when I switch to my racing gear. This shows up >as device unplugged on the main page, and is very misleading. Just >deselect rudders if it happens to you and all will be well. >Dave.

Hey, I've got some fully weird things happening on my system, and you guessed it oh la de dah, i have game controller update. What can it cause , how why, ???? Any info much appreciated

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> Absolutely right. > You can go to Microsoft's site and download a Game Controller Update that > will be found somewhere lurking around the support files for the Sidewinder > 3D Pro Joystick. After installing it, strange things may happen on your > system, (no kidding) but you will have a completely different Control panel > applet for the Game Controllers instead of Joystick. > Happy Hunting. > >>I have looked and looked but cannot for the life of me find how to > >>select "race car controller" in Win95. > >>The instructions I got with my wheel (Advantage 1) say's that you get > >>to it via the joystick applet and select "custom" and "special > >>feature". ***ed if I can see them. Could it be that some versions > >>of Win95 dont have that option? >snip