whats up with accelerator in F1rs?

Hi sorry if this has already been asked & I missed it. What is the problem with the revs going through the roof when you try and brake ( trail brake) before your completely off the gas? I understand that F1 cant be configured in 3 axis to keep gas & brake completely separated but it doesn't happen in any other auto Sim I have. Anyone know of a fix or way to configure around this? Thanks for any help. Mike -- Remove-No-Spam to Reply

> Hi sorry if this has already been asked & I missed it. What is the problem > with the revs going through the roof when you try and brake > ( trail brake) before your completely off the gas? I understand that F1 > cant be configured in 3 axis to keep gas & brake completely separated but > it doesn't happen in any other auto Sim I have. Anyone know of a fix or way > to configure around this? Thanks for any help. Mike After one of the patches I now can switch my CH pedals to car mode (joystick 2 using x and y axis). This made my day... ;^) l8er ronny -- |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

On 14 Jan 1998 01:06:44 GMT, "Mikes Designs" > Hi sorry if this has already been asked & I missed it. What is the problem >with the revs going through the roof when you try and brake > ( trail brake) before your completely off the gas? Never seen this happen. Are you sure you haven't got a bad pot that is sending a spike? (silly answer time: you're not downshifting too quickly, are you? <g>) It can - I have my GP500 set up in F1RS with brake & accelerator on separate axes. Cheers, Richard

Ya, that happens to me too......I've got a Sidewinder force-feedback stick. Sometimes when I'm downshifting and braking, I'll let off the brakes <returning the stick to the neutral point> and it'll floor the accelerator and shoot me into the kitty litter! Most annoying, Mark Mann Miami, FL On 14 Jan 1998 01:06:44 GMT, "Mikes Designs"

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> Hi sorry if this has already been asked & I missed it. What is the problem >with the revs going through the roof when you try and brake > ( trail brake) before your completely off the gas? I understand that F1 >cant be configured in 3 axis to keep gas & brake completely separated but >it doesn't happen in any other auto Sim I have. Anyone know of a fix or way >to configure around this? Thanks for any help. Mike >-- >Remove-No-Spam to Reply

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>Ya, that happens to me too......I've got a Sidewinder force-feedback >stick. Sometimes when I'm downshifting and braking, I'll let off the >brakes <returning the stick to the neutral point> and it'll floor the >accelerator and shoot me into the kitty litter! Most annoying, >Mark Mann >Miami, FL >On 14 Jan 1998 01:06:44 GMT, "Mikes Designs" >> Hi sorry if this has already been asked & I missed it. What is the problem >>with the revs going through the roof when you try and brake >> ( trail brake) before your completely off the gas? I understand that F1 >>cant be configured in 3 axis to keep gas & brake completely separated but >>it doesn't happen in any other auto Sim I have. Anyone know of a fix or way >>to configure around this? Thanks for any help. Mike

I get this too with my TSW - I *think* it happens most often when there's a bump approaching a corner. It could be dodgy pots, but it seems to have a vague pattern, so maybe it is a bug? Ken -- #include <disclaim>

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>>Ya, that happens to me too......I've got a Sidewinder force-feedback >>stick. Sometimes when I'm downshifting and braking, I'll let off the >>brakes <returning the stick to the neutral point> and it'll floor the >>accelerator and shoot me into the kitty litter! Most annoying, >>Mark Mann >>Miami, FL >>On 14 Jan 1998 01:06:44 GMT, "Mikes Designs" >>> Hi sorry if this has already been asked & I missed it. What is the problem >>>with the revs going through the roof when you try and brake >>> ( trail brake) before your completely off the gas? I understand that F1 >>>cant be configured in 3 axis to keep gas & brake completely separated but >>>it doesn't happen in any other auto Sim I have. Anyone know of a fix or way >>>to configure around this? Thanks for any help. Mike >I get this too with my TSW - I *think* it happens most often when >there's a bump approaching a corner. It could be dodgy pots, but it >seems to have a vague pattern, so maybe it is a bug? >Ken

To continue this thread, I have found one of the reaons I was having so much trouble with the uphill turn in Nurburing just before the big TV monitor was because the car would accelerate after lifting the gas and pumping the brakes. I initially thought it was just the car's setup, but after doing this repeated times, it is apparent that the fault is with the game somehow. I have the standard DM3D, T2, P166, 64MB, SB32, latest drivers for all. It is very annoying, becuase with most problems in driving, one can adjust with some setup tweak or another, but with this problem, there isn't anything to be done. It is only intermittent as well, to exacerbate the solution-finding. Regards, John Wehman

> To continue this thread, I have found one of the reaons I was having so much > trouble with the uphill turn in Nurburing just before the big TV monitor was > because the car would accelerate after lifting the gas and pumping the brakes. > I initially thought it was just the car's setup, but after doing this > repeated times.... Try setting up a car so, you can take that corner flat-out. It quite a thrill and possible with 12/6 wings. P.S. > About the problem, maybe you guys downshift too fast and rev up the engine so the car cant brake as fast as it should. I haven't experienced the problem you have. Have fun Tadej

>To continue this thread, I have found one of the reaons I was having so much >trouble with the uphill turn in Nurburing just before the big TV monitor was >because the car would accelerate after lifting the gas and pumping the brakes. Hmm, I'll have to look for that in a replay - I thought I was having problems just because I'm crap, got a ***setup, or just too busy watching the big TV :-) I've not had the mysterious over-revving problem there. That's just about an identical setup to me, bar the different wheel. Ken -- #include <disclaim>

I have had this problem too. Mostly when coming to a slow corner from a fast straight. It seems like when you slam on the brakes the accelerator just sticks, you have to quickly pump the brakes to get it unstuck. It could be downshifting too fast. But I have the same basic driving style in GP2, ICR2 and everything else. F1RS is the only game which has a stuck accelerator. Perhaps it will only allow one button press at a time. So the brake is not seen until I pump it? -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. >> To continue this thread, I have found one of the reaons I was having so much >> trouble with the uphill turn in Nurburing just before the big TV monitor was >> because the car would accelerate after lifting the gas and pumping the brakes. >> I initially thought it was just the car's setup, but after doing this >> repeated times.... >Try setting up a car so, you can take that corner flat-out. It quite a >thrill and possible with 12/6 wings. >P.S. > About the problem, maybe you guys downshift too fast and rev up >the engine so the car cant brake as fast as it should. I haven't experienced >the problem you have. >Have fun >Tadej

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>To continue this thread, I have found one of the reaons I was having so much >trouble with the uphill turn in Nurburing just before the big TV monitor was >because the car would accelerate after lifting the gas and pumping the brakes. > I initially thought it was just the car's setup, but after doing this >repeated times, it is apparent that the fault is with the game somehow. I >have the standard DM3D, T2, P166, 64MB, SB32, latest drivers for all. It is >very annoying, becuase with most problems in driving, one can adjust with some >setup tweak or another, but with this problem, there isn't anything to be >done. It is only intermittent as well, to exacerbate the solution-finding.

Obvious response, but have you tried re-calibrating? It sounds very much like a controller problem rather than anything to do with the sim - if not a calibration problem then maybe that there is some slack between the pedal and pot (which could explain the intermittent effect). Cheers, Richard

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> >>Ya, that happens to me too......I've got a Sidewinder force-feedback > >>stick. Sometimes when I'm downshifting and braking, I'll let off the > >>brakes <returning the stick to the neutral point> and it'll floor the > >>accelerator and shoot me into the kitty litter! Most annoying, > >>Mark Mann > >>Miami, FL > >>On 14 Jan 1998 01:06:44 GMT, "Mikes Designs" > >>> Hi sorry if this has already been asked & I missed it. What is the problem > >>>with the revs going through the roof when you try and brake > >>> ( trail brake) before your completely off the gas? I understand that F1 > >>>cant be configured in 3 axis to keep gas & brake completely separated but > >>>it doesn't happen in any other auto Sim I have. Anyone know of a fix or way > >>>to configure around this? Thanks for any help. Mike > >I get this too with my TSW - I *think* it happens most often when > >there's a bump approaching a corner. It could be dodgy pots, but it > >seems to have a vague pattern, so maybe it is a bug? > >Ken > To continue this thread, I have found one of the reaons I was having so much > trouble with the uphill turn in Nurburing just before the big TV monitor was > because the car would accelerate after lifting the gas and pumping the brakes. > I initially thought it was just the car's setup, but after doing this > repeated times, it is apparent that the fault is with the game somehow. I > have the standard DM3D, T2, P166, 64MB, SB32, latest drivers for all. It is > very annoying, becuase with most problems in driving, one can adjust with some > setup tweak or another, but with this problem, there isn't anything to be > done. It is only intermittent as well, to exacerbate the solution-finding. > Regards, > John Wehman

I think I have experienced the same intermitant problem as well, although I was not sure if it was the way I was downchanging and the accompanying sounds (mediocre and incremental) or whether the car was actually speeding up. Have you noticed if the speed actually increases? I have not checked this yet.