Are we going to race at Imola this Sunday? Can you host again Eldred?
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Ped Xing
Poor turnout for the RASF1 Imola race
The RASF1 race at Imola in F1 Challenge drew only Eldred, Ped Xing and David G Fisher, and Darryl Johnson could not connect to the server. Eldred left during qualifying after finding himself far off the pace. The group discussed connection issues and alternative start times for Asian and European drivers.
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Just out of curiosity, time-zone permitting, am I allowed to join in?
J.R.
>Are we going to race at Imola this Sunday? Can you host again Eldred?
Yes and um, yes...<g>
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Just a heads up, I won't be able to make it, have an autocross all day
tomorrow. Hopefully I'll do better in that then I do in these races online.
"Ped Xing" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Are we going to race at Imola this Sunday? Can you host again Eldred?
>
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> Ped Xing
>Just out of curiosity, time-zone permitting, am I allowed to join in?
>
>J.R.
Sure - why not? Race is at noon Eastern time. Look for the RASF1 server.
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I'm almost positive I'll be there.
David G Fisher
"Ped Xing" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Are we going to race at Imola this Sunday? Can you host again Eldred?
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> Ped Xing
"Stuart Becktell" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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> Just a heads up, I won't be able to make it, have an autocross all day
> tomorrow. Hopefully I'll do better in that then I do in these races
> online.
Good luck!
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"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Ack, sorry :( Noon eastern time = 1am Hong Kong time, and considering I have
to wake up at 6:45am, not a good idea.
J.R.
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> >Just out of curiosity, time-zone permitting, am I allowed to join in? > > > >J.R. > > Sure - why not? Race is at noon Eastern time. Look for the RASF1 server. > > Eldred > -- > http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > Screamers League > IICC League > GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 > Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 > Hist. +82.34 MoH:na > N2k3 rank:in progress > Slayer Spektera lvl 72 assassin > Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro > US EastI see the room listed, but the ping is zero (0), and I am unable to
connect to the game to start practice.
Oddly, most of the rooms have an empty ping value. On;y three of the
rooms have a positive value, and I can connect to the one I tested.
F1rst seems to think it is up to date, so I don't know what could be
the problem. Kinda looking forward to Imola too. I'm not often
available on Sundays anymore.
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Darryl
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>I see the room listed, but the ping is zero (0), and I am unable to >connect to the game to start practice. > >Oddly, most of the rooms have an empty ping value. On;y three of the >rooms have a positive value, and I can connect to the one I tested. > >F1rst seems to think it is up to date, so I don't know what could be >the problem. Kinda looking forward to Imola too. I'm not often >available on Sundays anymore. >This was a total waste of time from my view. The only drivers that showed were
me, Ped Xing and David. Those two were lapping in the 1:23's, and the best I
could do was 1:38. So I left during qual. I just checked the server to find
that they left as well. I don't see why, you two could have raced each other.
The fact that I left shouldn't have mattered. It's not like I was going to be
close to you anyway.
Oh well. Maybe next time.
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EldredP wrote in news:[email hidden]:
It definitely wasn't that, Eldred. I was on F1rst from about 11:50
on, and I "joined" the race literally seconds after it showed up on
the list of F1C rooms. I even shut down F1rst and restarted it three
times. (You've got to admit I am persistent!)
No joy on any of the attempts. I gave up at about 12:20 when I
figured you guys might well be on to qualifying and I wouldn't be
able to get in anymore.
Too bad there wasn't a race. Well, I tried.
I've never had a problem like this before. I wonder if anyone else
tried to connect and couldn't?
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Darryl
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>>I see the room listed, but the ping is zero (0), and I am unable >>to connect to the game to start practice. >> >>Oddly, most of the rooms have an empty ping value. On;y three of >>the rooms have a positive value, and I can connect to the one I >>tested. >> >>F1rst seems to think it is up to date, so I don't know what could >>be the problem. Kinda looking forward to Imola too. I'm not often >>available on Sundays anymore. >> > > Sorry you couldn't get in. You may have tried right after it > switched to qual. > We run closed qual so that entering drivers don't screw up the > people on > track. > > EldredQuoted text (8 lines)
>It definitely wasn't that, Eldred. I was on F1rst from about 11:50 >on, and I "joined" the race literally seconds after it showed up on >the list of F1C rooms. I even shut down F1rst and restarted it three >times. (You've got to admit I am persistent!) > >No joy on any of the attempts. I gave up at about 12:20 when I >figured you guys might well be on to qualifying and I wouldn't be >able to get in anymore.Darryl Johnson <[email hidden]> wrote in news:lYWic.3500
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> I've never had a problem like this before. I wonder if anyone else
> tried to connect and couldn't?
How long did you wait after clicking connect? After I clicked connect, it
sat there for a good long minute before it actually started loading. I
have seen this problem you describe before, though. I don't know what
causes it.
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Ped Xing
[email hidden] (EldredP) wrote in
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I sent some stuff that will hopefully help you.
> just checked the server to find that they left as well. I don't see
> why, you two could have raced each other. The fact that I left
> shouldn't have mattered. It's not like I was going to be close to you
> anyway. Oh well. Maybe next time.
Well, 2 runners isn't even a proper podium. ;-) Besides, it looked like
we'd have had to wait over 40 minutes for it to cycle to the next session.
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Ped Xing
"J.R." <[email hidden]> wrote in
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> Ack, sorry :( Noon eastern time = 1am Hong Kong time, and considering
> I have to wake up at 6:45am, not a good idea.
When is a good time? I personally have no problem with an alternate time
to get more runners on the grid. It's not my server, though. What say the
rest of you?
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Ped Xing
>I sent some stuff that will hopefully help you.
Got it - thanks.
It automagically switches to the next session. I think the timing is like
this:
practice - 20 minutes
qualify - 15 minutes
warmup - 5 minutes
Then it switches to the race...
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>> just checked the server to find that they left as well. I don't see >> why, you two could have raced each other. The fact that I left >> shouldn't have mattered. It's not like I was going to be close to you >> anyway. Oh well. Maybe next time. > >Well, 2 runners isn't even a proper podium. ;-) Besides, it looked like >we'd have had to wait over 40 minutes for it to cycle to the next session. >Quoted text (9 lines)
>"J.R." <[email hidden]> wrote in >news:c6gmcv$[email hidden]: > >> Ack, sorry :( Noon eastern time = 1am Hong Kong time, and considering >> I have to wake up at 6:45am, not a good idea. > >When is a good time? I personally have no problem with an alternate time >to get more runners on the grid. It's not my server, though. What say the >rest of you?Ped Xing wrote in
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I know it takes a while for F1rst to get back to my computer to tell
it to start F1C up. So I know I have to just sit there patiently. And
I did, for at least a couple of minutes.
To me, the odd thing is that clicking the "info" icon for the race
indicated that the server was set to accept a minimum ping of 0.
Obviously, no one except Eldred (assuming he was racing on the server
itself) was going to get a ping of 0. So I assumed that, for some
reason, I was getting bad info back from either Eldred's server or
from F1rst. Which is we I restarted F1rst a couple of times -- to see
if the bug would clear.
Oh well, water under the bridge now. Maybe I'll be free for the next
race.
Speaking of which, in another message there was a question about
starting times. For me, Sunday nights are reserved for another
league. And if it's a race weekend -- in Europe -- Sunday mornigs are
for watching the live broadcast. But later Sunday afternoon wouldn't
be a problem for me -- not any more than Sunday noon is sometimes.
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Darryl
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> Darryl Johnson <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:lYWic.3500 $[email hidden]: > >> I've never had a problem like this before. I wonder if anyone >> else tried to connect and couldn't? > > How long did you wait after clicking connect? After I clicked > connect, it sat there for a good long minute before it actually > started loading. I have seen this problem you describe before, > though. I don't know what causes it. >9 AM on Sunday is just to unpredictable for me. Too much real racing going
on.
Mitch
"Darryl Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Ped Xing wrote in > news:[email hidden]: > > > Darryl Johnson <[email hidden]> wrote in > > news:lYWic.3500 $[email hidden]: > > > >> I've never had a problem like this before. I wonder if anyone > >> else tried to connect and couldn't? > > > > How long did you wait after clicking connect? After I clicked > > connect, it sat there for a good long minute before it actually > > started loading. I have seen this problem you describe before, > > though. I don't know what causes it. > > > > I know it takes a while for F1rst to get back to my computer to tell > it to start F1C up. So I know I have to just sit there patiently. And > I did, for at least a couple of minutes. > > To me, the odd thing is that clicking the "info" icon for the race > indicated that the server was set to accept a minimum ping of 0. > Obviously, no one except Eldred (assuming he was racing on the server > itself) was going to get a ping of 0. So I assumed that, for some > reason, I was getting bad info back from either Eldred's server or > from F1rst. Which is we I restarted F1rst a couple of times -- to see > if the bug would clear. > > Oh well, water under the bridge now. Maybe I'll be free for the next > race. > > Speaking of which, in another message there was a question about > starting times. For me, Sunday nights are reserved for another > league. And if it's a race weekend -- in Europe -- Sunday mornigs are > for watching the live broadcast. But later Sunday afternoon wouldn't > be a problem for me -- not any more than Sunday noon is sometimes. > > -- > DarrylI wouldn't mind if we run the races later in the day on Sunday. Has to still
be convenient for the European drivers though.
David G Fisher
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> 9 AM on Sunday is just to unpredictable for me. Too much real racinggoing
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> on. > > Mitch > > > "Darryl Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:pstjc.22899$[email hidden]... > > Ped Xing wrote in > > news:[email hidden]: > > > > > Darryl Johnson <[email hidden]> wrote in > > > news:lYWic.3500 $[email hidden]: > > > > > >> I've never had a problem like this before. I wonder if anyone > > >> else tried to connect and couldn't? > > > > > > How long did you wait after clicking connect? After I clicked > > > connect, it sat there for a good long minute before it actually > > > started loading. I have seen this problem you describe before, > > > though. I don't know what causes it. > > > > > > > I know it takes a while for F1rst to get back to my computer to tell > > it to start F1C up. So I know I have to just sit there patiently. And > > I did, for at least a couple of minutes. > > > > To me, the odd thing is that clicking the "info" icon for the race > > indicated that the server was set to accept a minimum ping of 0. > > Obviously, no one except Eldred (assuming he was racing on the server > > itself) was going to get a ping of 0. So I assumed that, for some > > reason, I was getting bad info back from either Eldred's server or > > from F1rst. Which is we I restarted F1rst a couple of times -- to see > > if the bug would clear. > > > > Oh well, water under the bridge now. Maybe I'll be free for the next > > race. > > > > Speaking of which, in another message there was a question about > > starting times. For me, Sunday nights are reserved for another > > league. And if it's a race weekend -- in Europe -- Sunday mornigs are > > for watching the live broadcast. But later Sunday afternoon wouldn't > > be a problem for me -- not any more than Sunday noon is sometimes. > > > > -- > > Darryl > >Quoted text (7 lines)
>To me, the odd thing is that clicking the "info" icon for the race >indicated that the server was set to accept a minimum ping of 0. >Obviously, no one except Eldred (assuming he was racing on the server >itself) was going to get a ping of 0. So I assumed that, for some >reason, I was getting bad info back from either Eldred's server or >from F1rst. Which is we I restarted F1rst a couple of times -- to see >if the bug would clear.EldredP wrote in news:[email hidden]:
It usually takes between 45 and 60 second for my system to start
F1C as well. And it *did* start up F1C when I selected another
unpassworded race to test that everything was working properly on my
end.
> Where did you see the ping
> value? I don't recall ever noticing that in F1rst. If something
> is set that way, I certainly didn't do it on PURPOSE...
The ping value was seen in two places, Eldred. The first was in
the right-most column of the race rooms. At first, I thought this
meant I was getting a ping of 0 to your server, which is impossible.
When I went looking at the info screen for your race, one of the
pages had a box (greyed out because only the host can set these
values) that was labelled something like "max. allowable ping", and
the value was 0.
> Nope, I don't race on the server. That's part of the problem.
> Do any of the ISI guys read this NG? If I stop by your office
> this week, can you tell me how to get rid of the unattended
> 'server' car?
>
> Eldred
This has never happened before -- I ran a few races at the end
of last season with you guys, and I think you hosted a couple of the
ETCC races as well, didn't you?
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>>To me, the odd thing is that clicking the "info" icon for the race >>indicated that the server was set to accept a minimum ping of 0. >>Obviously, no one except Eldred (assuming he was racing on the >>server itself) was going to get a ping of 0. So I assumed that, >>for some reason, I was getting bad info back from either Eldred's >>server or from F1rst. Which is we I restarted F1rst a couple of >>times -- to see if the bug would clear. > > It's been taking my system a long time to start F1c from F1rst as > well. Probably at least a minute.> This has never happened before -- I ran a few races at the end
>of last season with you guys, and I think you hosted a couple of the
>ETCC races as well, didn't you?
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I didn't host the ETCC races. I could never get the mod to work, and nobody
had the solution when I asked...
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