N2: Dammit!

Ok, I've been running at Michigan trying to get used to the new game. I've only owned Nascar 2 for 5 days. I was running at Michigan a certain way.... I learned how to drive without using brakes (excluding traffic) but I still cannot break the 180mph barrier! I really don't understand how people are cutting 182-185 here. I'm going to download a replay or two, but I'm still lost. When I enter turn 1, I hit right about 199 (red light comes on with a 3.5 fourth gear) before I ease off the gas and work down towards the turn. I can either hit the turn early and gas out harder or hit later and gas less, but overall, I think I hit 180 right when the turn is completely done. Along to turn three, I ease off the gas at about the 3rd to last billboard, work down towards the bottom, back into the gas to hold at about 165, then accelerate smoothly out of turn 4. Tires squeal like hell, but they only hit 175-190 degrees. Anyone see an error here? Jp

I stay at around 175mph in the turns. Thats where you lose all your speed to everyone else. MY fastest is just faster than the real record of Gordons which is somewheres around 186.xxx Tom Wardell http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/2171/index.html

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> Ok, I've been running at Michigan trying to get used to the new >game. I've only owned Nascar 2 for 5 days. I was running at Michigan a >certain way.... I learned how to drive without using brakes (excluding >traffic) but I still cannot break the 180mph barrier! I really don't >understand how people are cutting 182-185 here. I'm going to download >a replay or two, but I'm still lost. When I enter turn 1, I hit right >about 199 (red light comes on with a 3.5 fourth gear) before I ease off >the gas and work down towards the turn. I can either hit the turn early >and gas out harder or hit later and gas less, but overall, I think I hit >180 right when the turn is completely done. Along to turn three, I >ease off the gas at about the 3rd to last billboard, work down towards >the bottom, back into the gas to hold at about 165, then accelerate smoothly >out of turn 4. Tires squeal like hell, but they only hit 175-190 degrees. >Anyone see an error here? > Jp

I actually don't race Mich. to often and I am not here to tell you the right line or best setup. But on any track, the following is true: if you can increase the cars speed in the corners you will have a greater speed at the end of each straight. faster laps will be the result. So it's sounds to me like you are losing to much speed exiting the corners, and that is hurting your speed on the straight. -- Kevin Anderson LinerKing on TEN LinerKing on AOL ICQ # 6769389 > Ok, I've been running at Michigan trying to get used to the new >game. I've only owned Nascar 2 for 5 days. I was running at Michigan a >certain way.... I learned how to drive without using brakes (excluding >traffic) but I still cannot break the 180mph barrier! I really don't >understand how people are cutting 182-185 here. I'm going to download >a replay or two, but I'm still lost. When I enter turn 1, I hit right >about 199 (red light comes on with a 3.5 fourth gear) before I ease off >the gas and work down towards the turn. I can either hit the turn early >and gas out harder or hit later and gas less, but overall, I think I hit >180 right when the turn is completely done. Along to turn three, I >ease off the gas at about the 3rd to last billboard, work down towards >the bottom, back into the gas to hold at about 165, then accelerate smoothly >out of turn 4. Tires squeal like hell, but they only hit 175-190 degrees. >Anyone see an error here? > Jp

% Ok, I've been running at Michigan trying to get used to the new % game. I've only owned Nascar 2 for 5 days. I was running at Michigan a % certain way.... I learned how to drive without using brakes (excluding % traffic) but I still cannot break the 180mph barrier! I really don't % understand how people are cutting 182-185 here. I'm going to download % a replay or two, but I'm still lost. When I enter turn 1, I hit right % about 199 (red light comes on with a 3.5 fourth gear) before I ease off % the gas and work down towards the turn. I can either hit the turn early % and gas out harder or hit later and gas less, but overall, I think I hit % 180 right when the turn is completely done. Along to turn three, I % ease off the gas at about the 3rd to last billboard, work down towards % the bottom, back into the gas to hold at about 165, then accelerate smoothly % out of turn 4. Tires squeal like hell, but they only hit 175-190 degrees. % Anyone see an error here? Michigan can be a hard track to master. First you will need a good setup. After you have put some heat in your tires you should be able to be close to 200-201 before taking turn 1. Come in high and actually take the middle of turns 1 & 2 past the actual apex. The major key to MIS is too scrub off as little speed as possible in the turns. You are losing some in Turns 1&2, but 3&4 are robbing you blind. This is the killer turns for me also. I still don't have it down right. So, I will pass on a few secrets from one of the CCG partners (Rob Camp -- hope he doesn't mind -- well I am pretty sure he won't if you will download our AI enhancement for Michigan <G> Check the CCG NASCAR2 AI Project site: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/6746 -- With this AI, you won't be using the brakes for the other cars, just to stop in your pit stall). From Snowdog's Secrets of Michigan: DO NOT EVER touch the brake.. Run hard into 1.. Go high to the wall along the frontstraight and then DIVE from the wall into turn one.. Later than you may think.. Just get off the gas (coasting) until the apex, *maybe* a little sonner than the apex, and slowly get back on the gas.. Sometime VERY shortly after the apex, you'll feel the car saying "hey man, let's go!", and then floor it.. The car (at least with my setup, for me.. Chevy chassis) will basically turn itself... As for T3, get off the gas (coasting) anywhere between the last sign (billboard on the right of the track) and the skids that are low going into the turn.. Enter this turn in *any* groove.. My fav is the diagonal line from the wall, down toward the bottom of the track in T3.. still coasting... You'll see a funky pattern of skidmarks somewhere in the mid-apex of 3 & 4.. use this to be a visual as to where you get back on the gas... Then you have a choice (depnding on you entrance) of either flooring it and taking yourself high groove OUT of 4, or flooring it and letting the car turn in ans taking the low/mid groove out of 4... Either will work, but they are DIRECTLY related to how you enter #3. Michigan, in my mind, has only 2 turns.. NOT 4 <g>. 2 is so dependant on 1, and 4 is so dependant on 3 that they are basically one turn... More so than any other track in WC, to me.. And remeber, under ANY circumstance.. TIE YOUR LEFT FOOT TO THE FLOOR! far away from the brake pedal... ================================================================= Track: Michigan Setup: SNOWDOG ================================================================= Tire Pressure Camber Shock Lock 5 Weight Bias RF 50 -2.40 85 1st 9.80 Left 1900 RR 52 0.00 100 2nd 6.50 Rear 1770 LR 50 0.00 100 3rd 4.40 Cross 0 LF 50 0.10 95 4th 3.40 Spoiler: 60 ================================================================= N2HQ (C)1997 - Dane Johnson ================================================================= [End of Snowdog's Secrets] Here is my setup for Michigan (slightly modified from Rob's): ================================================================= Track: Michigan Setup: TEST00 ================================================================= Tire Pressure Camber Shock Lock 6 Weight Bias RF 50 -2.70 20 1st 9.80 Left 1900 RR 51 0.00 100 2nd 6.90 Rear 1800 LR 50 0.00 100 3rd 4.40 Cross -5 LF 51 0.30 100 4th 3.40 Spoiler: 68 ================================================================= N2HQ (C)1997 - Dane Johnson ================================================================= -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=