F1 Sim Wheel Can't Brake and Accelerate at the same time? Why?

The manual says I can but the computer says I can,t?

>The manual says I can but the computer says I can,t? Check through the manual again - there's a bit which tells you how to mechanicaly alter something in the pedal box to achieve what you're after - braking at the same time as accellerating causes you to slow down. -- To reply, remove nosmeg from e-mail address.

>The manual says I can but the computer says I can,t? You can set up the pedal to have the accelerator & brake on different axes, but not all games support it. Why don't you give us some clue as to which one you are trying it with if you want some help ;-) Cheers, Richard

>>The manual says I can but the computer says I can,t? >You can set up the pedal to have the accelerator & brake on different >axes, but not all games support it. Why don't you give us some clue as to >which one you are trying it with if you want some help ;-) The latest versions have the switch removed - I am waiting for an answer from Zye technology on this one. If not satidfactory, they will get the wheel back. BTW, there is an aeful lot of good press for this wheel but I should point out another few problems: 1. As said, latest versions don't have the dual axis switch 2. Inside the steering tube, the shaft is connected to the pot with a *** tube. My first wheel had this slipping all the time - losing calibration. Supplier replaced the wheel without question. 3. My latest wheel has had the nut on the steering pot come loose. As it was Xmas, i stipped and retightened the thing myself. 4. Pedal postioning is uncomfortable I find. There is an option to preload the pedals to a lower position but this worsens problem 5 below. 5. Pedals have a max of about 45deg travel. The pots are connected on a straight shaft so that they also only move 45 deg (unlike geared T2 pedals). This gives them little electrical travel under calibration and fine control is more difficult. Although totally unreliable, my T2 pedals were much more sensitive in this respect. Would I still but the wheel? I'm afraid the answer is no. A steel tube does not necessarily mean quality. There is a lot of lateral play in the wheel and both steering and pedal pots are difficult to replace and poorly implemented. It is a little better than my T2 but, as I paid 150 for it, I wish I had exercised patience and gone for a TSW. Just my personal experiences - take them for what they're worth. Regards -- Neil Charlton [link lost in import] --

> The manual says I can but the computer says I can,t? Read the manual to the F1 Sim again, it states you can have simultaneous braking and accelerating, but you have to flip a switch in the pedal box, and have two joystick cables, (cos the accelerator and brake are treated as two separate joysticks when set-up like that). You will also have to recelebrate it under win95 if thats what you are using. 8?) * Peter * 8-) Please remove asterix from address to email.

>The latest versions have the switch removed - I am waiting for an >answer from Zye technology on this one. If not satidfactory, they will >get the wheel back. Thanks for the update. Can't understand why they would do that :( I had that problem as well, but just used a cable tie around the *** tubing to make a firmer fit. No problems since. It took me a long time to get used to the pedals but now I'm glad that I did. I experimented with sloping the pedals and now have them mounted on a board that is sloping forwards by about 5 degrees - just that small difference makes them much more to my liking. I suspect that depends a lot on driving style. I find the small travel of the GP500/F1 Sim pedals far more to my liking than when I tried the TSW ones - although that may be as much due to being what I'm used to. I certainly find there is enough travel to be able to hold the correct speed and appreciate being able to go very quickly from full to zero throttle. It does appear that the build quality has always been somewhat variable with some (lucky me <g>) getting well made ones and others getting lemons. From what I've heard, it does look like the quality has gone downhill since it became the F1 Sim :( The pedal pots are a PITA to replace, but the wheel ones are simple enough. My GP500 is certainly in a different ball park to a T2 - it's not been problem free but I know that a T2 would never have lasted with the punishment I have given the GP500 over the last 15 months ;-) A TSW really is for life though - I expect I will need to replace the GP500 within a year or so and will probably get a TSW then. I have my reservations though, when I tried a TSW earlier this year I wasn't keen on the feel of the wheel and the gear change paddles were nowhere near as nice as the GP500's. Cheers, Richard

Hi, which manual do you have? I have the UK version and I cant find any mention of this anywhere. > > The manual says I can but the computer says I can,t? > Read the manual to the F1 Sim again,

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> My GP500 is certainly in a different ball park to a T2 - it's not been > problem free but I know that a T2 would never have lasted with the > punishment I have given the GP500 over the last 15 months ;-) A TSW > really is for life though - I expect I will need to replace the GP500 > within a year or so and will probably get a TSW then. I have my > reservations though, when I tried a TSW earlier this year I wasn't keen > on the feel of the wheel and the gear change paddles were nowhere near as > nice as the GP500's.

I have a TSW, and while I don't know what the GP500's paddles are like, there's certainly nothing wrong with the TSW's paddles...you can even make adjustments for travel, and *no* missed shifts....ever. You commented earlier in your post with not liking (possibly because you weren't used to them) the TSW's pedals. I personally think they're the best part. I've tried a couple of wheels (never an ECCI), but I think the pedals are very good. They are a VAST improvement over the T2's pedals. I'm not impressed with the NASCAR Pro/Formula One pedals either....too little travel. I made a small mod to my TSW...I dropped a piece of heavy-duty *** hose behind the brake lever to add some progressive resistance. I've had to replace 1 pot, and had to replace the wiring for the steering paddles (replacement provided by Trevor...my wheel was one of the early models with paddle shifters, and there was a bit of a design flaw), but I really can't see anything else going wrong with the TSW unit. -- Neil Yeatman Ajax, Ontario, CANADA

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> Hi, which manual do you have? I have the UK version and I cant find > any > mention of this anywhere. > > > The manual says I can but the computer says I can,t? > > Read the manual to the F1 Sim again,

I'm talking about the manual that comes with the F1 Sim, not the game! I have a UK F1 Sim and the manual that comes with it is printed in English, French and German. The manual has a section entitled: More Complicated Tuning - Brake & Accelerator. This section describes the process of operating separate axis for brake and accelerator, and tuning of the pedals to enable one pedal to be *** over the other. 8-) * Peter * 8-) Please remove asterix from address to email.

The GP500's has just one paddle on a rocker arrangement - this is useful when I've got a bottle of beer in one hand as I can change both up and down with the other hand <vbg> More seriously, it is basically a big piece of rectangular metal that fits my hand size perfectly with all the fingers operating the paddle. When I tried it, the TSW's shifters seemed a bit small and fiddly and only seemed to accomodate one finger leaving me wondering what to do with the others ;-) I think Trev also offers larger shifters now so that may no longer be an issue. The TSW design for the shifter contacts is a big plus over the GP500 one though - no chance of those brass screws ever wearing down <g> The GP500 uses micro-switches which inevitably wear out - it's not too difficult to solder in some new ones, but getting at them isn't particularly intuitive :( The TSW is certainly a fine product - I almost ended up tossing a coin when trying to choose between the TSW & GP500. What swung it for the latter was that it didn't mean having to order from abroad coupled with Trev's refusal to accept a credit card (any chance of changing that policy Trev? I'll be looking for a new wheel sometime and would much rather pay by credit card <g>). Cheers, Richard