Best 2D card for GP2?

I have a Monster 3D for 3D but I want to replace my Intergraph Intense 3D with a better 2D card for GP2. Any advice? Mike

>I have a Monster 3D for 3D but I want to replace my Intergraph Intense >3D with a better 2D card for GP2. Any advice? I've tried quite a few 2D cards in GP2 and they all performed identically. This includes the Millenium, Stealth64, Riva128-based cards, ET6000. It also includes the new Verite 2100-based Stealth2. Now, 320x200 is a different matter. There, the Verite is poor. Don't believe all the hype about video card X being superfast with 2D (at least as far as DOS games are concerned). Unfortunately, I can't tell you how well your card compares.

Think either Diamond or ATI. Bith make great 2D and 3D boards. Even better wait till this summer for the new generation 2D/3D boards. -- The Grandstand http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/4211/ The Pits http://www.theuspits.com

Someone ran some tests on GP2 with various graphics cards and all the results came out exactly the same - Evidently it doesn't matter what card you have. Sorry i can't remeber the web page - it was something to do with GP2 Benchmark on Pieters site (if its still running). Tony.

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> Someone ran some tests on GP2 with various graphics cards and all the > results came out exactly the same - Evidently it doesn't matter what card > you have. > Sorry i can't remeber the web page - it was something to do with GP2 > Benchmark on Pieters site (if its still running). > Tony.

Not really true. A better graphics card allows the sim to use more graphics at lower frame rates. If you have the FR maxed so that you are around the 100% cpu occupancy then no diff.

That's correct, as GP2 relies solely on the processor for its screen-refresh speed. -- Bruce (at work) "An honest politician is one who, when he is bought, will stay bought." (Simon Cameron)

> That's correct, as GP2 relies solely on the processor for its > screen-refresh speed. I remember going from a cheap 32bit pci card to a STB 128 Lightspeed card. No difference at the optimal frame rate ie could not add any more graphics options without going over the 100% cpu occupancy. However, at lower fps I was able to run a lot more graphics options than previously.

> I have a Monster 3D for 3D but I want to replace my Intergraph Intense > 3D with a better 2D card for GP2. Any advice? > Mike There are varying opinions about whether the video card makes any difference so I will only talk from personal experience. I changed a 2Mb(DRAM) Diamond Stealth (trio 64V+) PCI card for a 2Mb(WRAM) Matrox Millenium in a 32Mb Cyrix P150+ machine. The upshot was that without changing the frame rate I saw a reduction in the processor occupancy of between 10 and 20%. The most noticeable difference was in the handling of static trackside objects such as the trees.

Wow: the GP2 Processor Occupancy may be what you thinking of, but the results are wildly diverse. Anyway, check this out... <http://www.rat.de/sts/gp2pop/index.html> This chart is really useful if your trying to find an optimum system configurationfor GP2 performance. Simon

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> Someone ran some tests on GP2 with various graphics cards and all the > results came out exactly the same - Evidently it doesn't matter what card > you have. > Sorry i can't remeber the web page - it was something to do with GP2 > Benchmark on Pieters site (if its still running). > Tony.

There have been a lot of contradicting reports about this. I was thinking...maybe you need to reinstall the game after you replaced the videocard to see a difference? (I really don't know, but maybe this causes the different things you hear about the influence of a videocard) One thing is 100% sure: a PROCESSOR upgrade would boost performance! JoH Please remove *anti-spam* from the email when replying. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= When everything else failed, we can still become im- mortal by making an enormous blunder.... John Kenneth Galbraith =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

personally I have a velocity 128 in a p2 266 and with gp2 I can have nearly all details turned on in 640x480 mode, the only thing I shut off is certain objects in the mirrors. It chuggs sometimes when you spin out, otherwise I have about 80% occupancy. > >I have a Monster 3D for 3D but I want to replace my Intergraph Intense > >3D with a better 2D card for GP2. Any advice?

I have a millenium and it is fantastic for gp2

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>personally I have a velocity 128 in a p2 266 and with gp2 I can have nearly >all details turned on in 640x480 mode, the only thing I shut off is certain >objects in the mirrors. It chuggs sometimes when you spin out, otherwise I >have about 80% occupancy. >> >I have a Monster 3D for 3D but I want to replace my Intergraph Intense >> >3D with a better 2D card for GP2. Any advice?