Man this thing is awesome! Me personally i cant get a whole lap in without
overshooting some turn. What times are you getting?
Lap times in the GTR demo at Spa
Drivers posted Lister Storm lap times at Spa in the GTR press demo, mostly from 2:13 to 2:18, compared with real FIA GT pole times of about 2:15. Tips included taking Eau Rouge flat, enlarging brake ducts and adjusting brake bias, and Joachim Trensz shared a setup. J. Todd Wasson later reported a 2:13.2.
Automated summary.
2:17.7 with the default setup and all aids off in the Lister. I'm able to
take Eau Rouge flat out in 6th at about 147 mph!
"fredrickson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Man this thing is awesome! Me personally i cant get a whole lap in without
> overshooting some turn. What times are you getting?
>
>
2:17.073 after one hour
Increase your brake duct size it helps alot and monitor you brake
temperature.
EL
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> > overshooting some turn. What times are you getting?
> >
> >
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>
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> 2:17.7 with the default setup and all aids off in the Lister. I'm able to > take Eau Rouge flat out in 6th at about 147 mph! > > > "fredrickson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:NxUkc.104533$[email hidden]... > > Man this thing is awesome! Me personally i cant get a whole lap in2:15.6 seconds with default setup and brake bias at 57. I'm in love! I was
messing around with Motec and of the 3 laps I ran I would have hit 2:13 sec
when it added all the best sector times of the 3 laps together, lol.
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> 2:17.073 after one hour > > Increase your brake duct size it helps alot and monitor you brake > temperature. > > EL > > > "John Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:mdVkc.49922$[email hidden]... > > 2:17.7 with the default setup and all aids off in the Lister. I'm ableQuoted text (14 lines)
> > take Eau Rouge flat out in 6th at about 147 mph! > > > > > > "fredrickson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:NxUkc.104533$[email hidden]... > > > Man this thing is awesome! Me personally i cant get a whole lap in > without > > > overshooting some turn. What times are you getting? > > > > > > > > > > > >Ok im in the 2:15s now after about 20 laps...
DJRJR wrote:
> Ok im in the 2:15s now after about 20 laps...
>
> 2.14.6 :-)
But that's the AI, I can't get anywhere near it. (Toggle it on by
pressing escape while driving and select "toggle AI") Lovely to watch
the cpu drive round.
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You have to be able to take Eau Rouge flat out and be smooth...
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> DJRJR wrote: > > Ok im in the 2:15s now after about 20 laps... > > > > > 2.14.6 :-) > > But that's the AI, I can't get anywhere near it. (Toggle it on by > pressing escape while driving and select "toggle AI") Lovely to watch > the cpu drive round. > -- > SteveLJohn Smith wrote:
>
> You have to be able to take Eau Rouge flat out and be smooth...
>I need to learn to drive again 4 that to happen. I've been watching the
AI trying to work out the correct racing line. I'm really all over the
place as it's been years since I've gone anywhere near spa (of F1C etc)
Oh well practice... One day I might even be able to get a clean lap :)
Easier said than done :)
Mitch
"John Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Ns8lc.44421> You
have to be able to take Eau Rouge flat out and be smooth...
>
>
Easier said than done :)
Mitch
have to be able to take Eau Rouge flat out and be smooth...
I'm down to 2:17.208
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> have to be able to take Eau Rouge flat out and be smooth...
> >
> >
>
>
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> > Easier said than done :) > > Mitch > > > "John Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Ns8lc.44421>2:18 using the included DA setup.
Why dont you run RASCAR anymore Fredrickson?
Mitch
"fredrickson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I'm down to 2:17.208
>
i dunno, schools kept me busy and i usually dont have the patience for so
many laps
but if i remember sometime ill join, is my name still on the list?
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> 2:18 using the included DA setup. > > Why dont you run RASCAR anymore Fredrickson? > > Mitch > > "fredrickson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:V8alc.63394$[email hidden]... > > I'm down to 2:17.208 > > > >I just hit 1:15.993
:-)
pulling back the bias helped a lot
er.... 2:15.993
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> I just hit 1:15.993 > > :-) > > pulling back the bias helped a lot > >> 2:18 using the included DA setup.
That's just crazy! :) I'm at a somewhat inconsistent 2:18 (prolly 2:16 with
three dececnt sectors), but it took a bunch of setup tweaking.
Alan
2:17.5 since I posted (compared to the 2:15's posted by others its still
slow). Everytime I try to "tweak" the default setup I go much slower ;)
The more laps I turn though the more I "feel" where Im messing up. Once I
get the track and car feel down then Ill reconsider "tweaking" hehe.
Mitch
"Alan Le" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > 2:18 using the included DA setup.
>
> That's just crazy! :) I'm at a somewhat inconsistent 2:18 (prolly 2:16with
> three dececnt sectors), but it took a bunch of setup tweaking.
>
> Alan
>
>
"Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Well obviously, my problems are with traffic. I just can't seem to get
a clear lap. In fact, I think driver XXXX is deliberately trying to take
away the flyer lines while he's on a cool down lap.
Yessiree...traffic...dat's what's holding me back.
dave henrie
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> > 2:17.5 since I posted (compared to the 2:15's posted by others its > still slow). Everytime I try to "tweak" the default setup I go much > slower ;) The more laps I turn though the more I "feel" where Im > messing up. Once I get the track and car feel down then Ill > reconsider "tweaking" hehe. > > > Mitch2:15 with the default setup. I'm sure though that 2:12's are possible. Made
some fairly big mistakes. :-o
David G fisher
"fredrickson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Man this thing is awesome! Me personally i cant get a whole lap in without
> overshooting some turn. What times are you getting?
>
>
> 2:17.5 since I posted (compared to the 2:15's posted by others its still
> slow). Everytime I try to "tweak" the default setup I go much slower ;)
> The more laps I turn though the more I "feel" where Im messing up. Once I
> get the track and car feel down then Ill reconsider "tweaking" hehe.
2:16.6, but still on my own setup. I tried the default setup again, and
it's 1-2 secs slower for me. Judging from the +/- intervals, I could
possibly drive as quickly with it, but not with any consistency. I can do
several 2:17s with my setup until I mess up under braking and go off.
For mere mortals such as myself, the default setup -is- less worrysome to
drive, especially when trail braking. It might also be great for very long
stints. In any case, it still comes down to me tweaking to reach 2:15 which
others quickly reached with the default setup. Just another reminder that
I'm slow. :)
Alan
> 2:15 with the default setup. I'm sure though that 2:12's are possible.Made
> some fairly big mistakes. :-o
I'd feel a whole lot better if folks such as yourself stopped replying to
these threads. :)
Alan
In article <Jqklc.59607$[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] (Alan Le) wrote:
> I'd feel a whole lot better if folks such as yourself stopped
> replying to these threads. :)
I managed a 2:32.7 if that helps ;-)
Andrew McP
"Alan Le" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I didn't say *I'd* hit 2:12. I just said it's possible. :-)
A really quick driver will make a hot lap setup, not make the mistakes I
made :-) , and spend a lot more hours running laps than most of us will ever
have the time for. Actually, I bet you'll see some 2:11's evnetually.
David G Fisher
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> > 2:15 with the default setup. I'm sure though that 2:12's are possible. > Made > > some fairly big mistakes. :-o > > I'd feel a whole lot better if folks such as yourself stopped replying to > these threads. :) > > Alan"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:
The demo movies at Blackhole have a 2:11 and I think I saw a blurb about
a 2:09. Pole last year at Spa for the FIA GT cars was about 2:15.
dh
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> I didn't say *I'd* hit 2:12. I just said it's possible. :-) > > A really quick driver will make a hot lap setup, not make the mistakes > I made :-) , and spend a lot more hours running laps than most of us > will ever have the time for. Actually, I bet you'll see some 2:11's > evnetually. > > David G FisherThat sounds about right for the Morgan Andrew :)
"Andrew MacPherson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I managed a 2:32.7 if that helps ;-)
>
> Andrew McP
>
>2:17.5 since I posted (compared to the 2:15's posted by others its still
>slow). Everytime I try to "tweak" the default setup I go much slower ;)
>The more laps I turn though the more I "feel" where Im messing up. Once I
>get the track and car feel down then Ill reconsider "tweaking" hehe.
>
I'm finding it difficult just getting used to the right-hand drive...ugh.
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>That sounds about right for the Morgan Andrew :) > > >"Andrew MacPherson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> >> I managed a 2:32.7 if that helps ;-) >> >> Andrew McPJust hit 2:15.74 on my 58th lap :))
I was way slow in the bus stop. Generally after around a 100 practice laps
anywhere I can get some consistency and speed. Before that mark it's either
one or the other :))
Mitch
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> >That sounds about right for the Morgan Andrew :) > > > > > >"Andrew MacPherson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> > >> I managed a 2:32.7 if that helps ;-) > >> > >> Andrew McP > > Shit...I'm slower than that in the Lister(2:51). > > Eldred > -- > http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > Screamers League > IICC League > GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 > Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 > Hist. +82.34 MoH:na > N2k3 rank:in progress > Slayer Spektera lvl 72 assassin > Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro > US EastIn article <72ulc.44172$[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] (Mitch_A) wrote:
> That sounds about right for the Morgan Andrew :)
Stop trying to cheer me up. I've never been within 10s of a decent lap
time in my life ;-)
Andrew McP
> Just hit 2:15.74 on my 58th lap :))
>
> I was way slow in the bus stop. Generally after around a 100 practicelaps
> anywhere I can get some consistency and speed. Before that mark it'seither
> one or the other :))
Nailed a 2:15.6 with a 2:15.7 right after, and I'm actually using the
default setup now. It's taken me a few more than 58 laps though. :)
Admittedly, I'm also cutting the left hander a bit coming out of Eau Rouge.
Wonder if I'll be able to keep pace as your time improves. We seem to be
dropping at about the same rate.
On a related note, I think the FF has contributed a LOT to the experience
and me coming to grips with the car. I don't know how the non-FF folk do
it. The weight of the wheel when the front tires are fairly well hooked up
is a great feeling. Scares me to think what an alien might be capable of
with the additional feedback. I can't wait for BRD to release the Speed7.
The GTR demo has me convinced I need one. :)
Alan
2:15.3 last night at lap 113 but it's getting MUCH harder to improve the
times now. I'm getting pretty consistent though and it seems Im getting my
fastest laps around 5-6.
I downloaded a qual setup/replay from BHMS where the driver turned a
2:10.x. (or 2:11 dont exactly remember). For the most part my braking
points were similar but he got a GREAT run coming outta Stavelot which let
him carry a ton more speed up the long straight. He rode the kerb all the
way through and was able to keep it floored where I still have to blip. I
didnt care for the setup much though and quickly went back to the default.
Yea I dont see how you can get a really fast lap keeping all four tires
within the kerbs all the way around and Eau Rouge is the perfect example.
Ive shortened the bus stop a bit more also ;)
I also agree about the FF. It just feels right and gives a ton of feedback.
Can't imagine not having it. On a similar note F1C/mods always had much
much better FF than the Papy NRx series where I nearly have to turn it off.
Ive been keeping an eye on the Speed7 as well but Ive got two Momo Force's
to wear out first and neither has worn at all (or negligible) in over a year
so it looks like Im ok for awhile still.
I smell a 14 coming soon :))
Mitch
"Alan Le" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Nailed a 2:15.6 with a 2:15.7 right after, and I'm actually using the
> default setup now. It's taken me a few more than 58 laps though. :)
> Admittedly, I'm also cutting the left hander a bit coming out of EauRouge.
> Wonder if I'll be able to keep pace as your time improves. We seem to be
> dropping at about the same rate.
>
> On a related note, I think the FF has contributed a LOT to the experience
> and me coming to grips with the car. I don't know how the non-FF folk do
> it. The weight of the wheel when the front tires are fairly well hookedup
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> is a great feeling. Scares me to think what an alien might be capable of > with the additional feedback. I can't wait for BRD to release the Speed7. > The GTR demo has me convinced I need one. :) > > Alan > >>2:15.3 last night at lap 113 but it's getting MUCH harder to improve the
>times now. I'm getting pretty consistent though and it seems Im getting my
>fastest laps around 5-6.
Does the demo keep stats on laps, or are you guys just keeping track
yourselves?
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Mitch_A wrote:
...
> I didnt care for the setup much though
> and quickly went back to the default.
I've uploaded my Lister setup two days ago.
Maybe you'd like to give it a try.
Achim
Info/records Eldred.
Im not "that" anal :))
Mitch
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> >2:15.3 last night at lap 113 but it's getting MUCH harder to improve the
> >times now. I'm getting pretty consistent though and it seems Im gettingmy
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> >fastest laps around 5-6. > > Does the demo keep stats on laps, or are you guys just keeping track > yourselves? > > Eldred > -- > http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > Screamers League > IICC League > GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 > Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 > Hist. +82.34 MoH:na > N2k3 rank:in progress > Slayer Spektera lvl 72 assassin > Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro > US EastWhere at Achim Id love to give it a try.
Mitch
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>
> I've uploaded my Lister setup two days ago.
> Maybe you'd like to give it a try.
>
> Achim
>Info/records Eldred.
>
>Im not "that" anal :))
>
>Mitch
Ah, ok. Thanks.
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Well, I did a 2:18:6 with the default setup. Just realized that I had the ABS
on though. Ah well.
Bill
In article <wJbmc.5494$[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] (Mitch_A) wrote:
> Im not "that" anal :))
Keeping track of everything you spend's a great way of learning
to stretch your money if you don't have a lot. I can seriously recommend
it to anyone, whether it's anal or not :-)
Andrew McP
I finally got 2:15.9 after about five hours of driving and setting up the
car. I also managed a 2:19.something which included a 360 spin in the bus
stop... :/
The default setup understeered way too much for my liking, so I ended up
reducing the front antiroll-bar and the diff locking (both coast and power).
That at least seemed to help, or then it had a purely psychological
effect... I've also gradually moved the brake balance more to the rear, and
I'm currently at 51/49 (f/r) and I'm still getting no instability while
braking. I actually find that kinda odd, 'cause in GPL I'm in deep trouble
if I set the front bias below 54%, even with a non-alien diff.
Mitch_A wrote:
> Where at Achim Id love to give it a try.
>
> Mitch
Oops, sorry, I thought you knew:
http://users.skynet.be/AchimT/start.html
At the bottom of the Setups page.
Achim
>
>Keeping track of everything you spend's a great way of learning
>to stretch your money if you don't have a lot. I can seriously recommend
>it to anyone, whether it's anal or not :-)
Not sure how that stretches your money. So you still spent the money...
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In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] (EldredP) wrote:
> Not sure how that stretches your money.
In which case grasshopper, you have much to learn :-) I can't see the
point in recording it all if you don't use that record as a tool to try
and help you predict and therefore control your expenditure. Rich folk
don't need to bother... not until they realise how much their accountant's
stealing anyway ;-)
Andrew McP
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>In article <[email hidden]>, >[email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: > >> Not sure how that stretches your money. > >In which case grasshopper, you have much to learn :-) I can't see the >point in recording it all if you don't use that record as a tool to try >and help you predict and therefore control your expenditure. Rich folk >don't need to bother... not until they realise how much their accountant's >stealing anyway ;-) >2:14.289 as PB
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>Info/records Eldred. > >Im not "that" anal :)) > >Mitch > > >"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> >2:15.3 last night at lap 113 but it's getting MUCH harder to improve the >> >times now. I'm getting pretty consistent though and it seems Im getting >my >> >fastest laps around 5-6. >> >> Does the demo keep stats on laps, or are you guys just keeping track >> yourselves?> I just looked at that screen. It shows me as having done 47 laps, with aPB of
> 2:14.xx. Unless the Driving Gnomes are using my system after I go to bed,
> that's not even CLOSE to being right...
The player comes preset with that PB. You can manually reset it to some
ridiculously high figure, and your next outing will populate it with one of
your times. It's the SIM_GT2003.bch file in the player directory assuming
you drive the Lister in Sim mode.
> I know I've only done 8 laps with a 2:51 PB.
Never mind your PB. How is it you've only run 8 laps? :)
Alan
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>> I just looked at that screen. It shows me as having done 47 laps, with a >PB of >> 2:14.xx. Unless the Driving Gnomes are using my system after I go to bed, >> that's not even CLOSE to being right... > >The player comes preset with that PB. You can manually reset it to some >ridiculously high figure, and your next outing will populate it with one of >your times. It's the SIM_GT2003.bch file in the player directory assuming >you drive the Lister in Sim mode. >I was running fairly often in the 2:15's with the default setup after a couple
hours (just trying this tonight for the first time, finally got a cable modem).
After stiffening the front ARB to 170 I skipped right passed the 2:14 range
entirely.
About 80 laps ~ 3 hours or so in:
2:13.93 PB
Todd Wasson
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OK Todd, I hate you too ;)
Mitch
"J. Todd Wasson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I was running fairly often in the 2:15's with the default setup after acouple
> hours (just trying this tonight for the first time, finally got a cablemodem).
> After stiffening the front ARB to 170 I skipped right passed the 2:14range
