Got my ECCi wheel

Took two hours to assemble, and another hour to re-arrange the computer desk to accomodate it's larger size. It's oh-so smooth, but I don't like the paddle shifters. I'm a danger on the track right now, so I think I'm gonna stick to offline for a week or so while I get used to it.

Let us know how you come to grips with the PCB brake pedal. Thanks. "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Took two hours to assemble, and another hour to re-arrange the computer > desk to accomodate it's larger size. > > It's oh-so smooth, but I don't like the paddle shifters. > > I'm a danger on the track right now, so I think I'm gonna stick to > offline for a week or so while I get used to it. > > >

> It's oh-so smooth, but I don't like the paddle shifters. You don't like these paddle shifters or paddle shifters in general?

In article <c6v8dt$gjd8l$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > > It's oh-so smooth, but I don't like the paddle shifters. > > You don't like these paddle shifters or paddle shifters in general? > > > Paddle shifters in general.

I have some alternative ideas on the the pedals. If you would like pictures let me know. The paddle shifters you will get used to in no time. "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Took two hours to assemble, and another hour to re-arrange the computer > desk to accomodate it's larger size. > > It's oh-so smooth, but I don't like the paddle shifters. > > I'm a danger on the track right now, so I think I'm gonna stick to > offline for a week or so while I get used to it. > > >

I dont understand.Doesnt anyone here have the "Instant Cockpit pedal anchor base".Anytime you harden up a brake pedal beyond the normal squash ball you need to anchor the seat for full effect.

Has anyone tried the "Instant Cockpit pedal anchor base "????????

Has anyone tried the "Instant***pit pedal anchor base "????????

>Has anyone tried the "Instant Cockpit pedal anchor base >"???????? > Nailing it to the floor, maybe? Sorry, but I'm not quite sure what you're asking. Eldred -- http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Screamers League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH:na N2k3 rank:in progress Slayer Spektera lvl 72 assassin Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro US East

ECCI makes it. Think of a sheet of metal that slides under your chair and hooks to it and the other end is hooked to your pedals preventing em from sliding. Mitch "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Nailing it to the floor, maybe? Sorry, but I'm not quite sure what you're > asking. > > Eldred > -- > http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > Screamers League > IICC League > GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 > Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 > Hist. +82.34 MoH:na > N2k3 rank:in progress > Slayer Spektera lvl 72 assassin > Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro > US East

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > I dont understand.Doesnt anyone here have the "Instant Cockpit pedal > anchor base".Anytime you harden up a brake pedal beyond the normal > squash ball you need to anchor the seat for full effect. > I don't need it. The hardest part of this is getting used to the PBM module. I will, however, buy the stick shifter they're working on when it becomes available. These paddle shifters just don't do it for me. I'm currently finishing up an add-on sequential shifter using the shifter off of one of my old discarded Thrustmaster Nascar Pro Analog wheels.

I used to feel the same way John. Took me a long time to get used to the paddles but now that I have I doubt Ill switch back given the opportunity. I drove with one hand but now that Ive gotten used to both hands on the wheel I feel I have much better car control. This is totally subjective though. Mitch "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > I dont understand.Doesnt anyone here have the "Instant Cockpit pedal > > anchor base".Anytime you harden up a brake pedal beyond the normal > > squash ball you need to anchor the seat for full effect. > > > > I don't need it. The hardest part of this is getting used to the PBM > module. > > I will, however, buy the stick shifter they're working on when it > becomes available. These paddle shifters just don't do it for me. I'm > currently finishing up an add-on sequential shifter using the shifter > off of one of my old discarded Thrustmaster Nascar Pro Analog wheels. >

"Mitch_A" wrote: > I used to feel the same way John. Took me a long time to get used to the > paddles but now that I have I doubt Ill switch back given the opportunity. > I drove with one hand but now that Ive gotten used to both hands on the > wheel I feel I have much better car control. This is totally subjective > though. I don't think it is the getting used to it that is the issue. Shifters just seem more immersive even if they do potentially hurt your lap times, but then I'm old school... :)

The harder the brake is to push,the more feedback youll get....BUT....youll have to anchor yourself and the pedals to feel this extra feedback.That is why ECCI sells a device to lock your chair and pedals so that you can push the brake without moving backwards.:)The NIXIM converter works on this principle too.But the NIXIM sells a completley solid chassis to sit in and I imagine has much higher brake pedal resistance. "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<cMilc.59584$[email hidden]>...

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> ECCI makes it. Think of a sheet of metal that slides under your chair and > hooks to it and the other end is hooked to your pedals preventing em from > sliding. > > Mitch > > > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Nailing it to the floor, maybe? Sorry, but I'm not quite sure what you're > > asking. > > > > Eldred > > -- > > http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > Screamers League > > IICC League > > GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 > > Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 > > Hist. +82.34 MoH:na > > N2k3 rank:in progress > > Slayer Spektera lvl 72 assassin > > Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro > > US East

John Simmons <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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> In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > I dont understand.Doesnt anyone here have the "Instant Cockpit pedal > > anchor base".Anytime you harden up a brake pedal beyond the normal > > squash ball you need to anchor the seat for full effect. > > > > I don't need it. The hardest part of this is getting used to the PBM > module. > > I will, however, buy the stick shifter they're working on when it > becomes available. These paddle shifters just don't do it for me. I'm > currently finishing up an add-on sequential shifter using the shifter > off of one of my old discarded Thrustmaster Nascar Pro Analog wheels.

But you do need it.If you say that the hardest part is getting used to the PBM its because your not securely and fully anchoring your seat from the pedals. ###############################################################################6000 series "Instant Cockpit" pedal unit restraint for use with Trackstar 6000 pedal units. Prevents "walking" of Trackstar 6000 pedal unit or driving chair forward/backward, and prevents any up/down movement of pedal unit when PMB or high pedal pressures are used. Prevents movement of office type chairs equipped with wheels. Also very useful for LAN racing situations where the driving station may be located in the middle of a large room with no nearby provision for securing the pedal unit. One end of structure bolts securely to pedal unit, other end is secured under legs/wheels of driving chair. Unit is adjustable for pedal/chair distance. Breaks down quickly to allow easier transport, yet is extremely rigid when assembled. Also allows protective passage of speaker/headset wires from computer to driving seat.

After seeing PCB and now PBM I figure I'd set it straight :) Its PMB2 (pressure modulated brake version 2). Nitpicky :) <[email hidden]> wrote in message > But you do need it.If you say that the hardest part is getting used to > the PBM its because your not securely and fully anchoring your seat > from the pedals. > >############################################################################ ###6000

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> series "Instant Cockpit" pedal unit restraint for use with Trackstar > 6000 pedal units. Prevents "walking" of Trackstar 6000 pedal unit or > driving chair forward/backward, and prevents any up/down movement of > pedal unit when PMB or high pedal pressures are used. Prevents > movement of office type chairs equipped with wheels. Also very useful > for LAN racing situations where the driving station may be located in > the middle of a large room with no nearby provision for securing the > pedal unit. One end of structure bolts securely to pedal unit, other > end is secured under legs/wheels of driving chair. Unit is adjustable > for pedal/chair distance. Breaks down quickly to allow easier > transport, yet is extremely rigid when assembled. Also allows > protective passage of speaker/headset wires from computer to driving > seat.

>ECCI makes it. Think of a sheet of metal that slides under your chair and >hooks to it and the other end is hooked to your pedals preventing em from >sliding. Interesting. Ok, thanks. Eldred -- http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Screamers League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH:na N2k3 rank:in progress Slayer Spektera lvl 72 assassin Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro US East

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> John Simmons <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... > > In article <[email hidden]>, > > [email hidden] says... > > > I dont understand.Doesnt anyone here have the "Instant Cockpit pedal > > > anchor base".Anytime you harden up a brake pedal beyond the normal > > > squash ball you need to anchor the seat for full effect. > > > > > > > I don't need it. The hardest part of this is getting used to the PBM > > module. > > > > I will, however, buy the stick shifter they're working on when it > > becomes available. These paddle shifters just don't do it for me. I'm > > currently finishing up an add-on sequential shifter using the shifter > > off of one of my old discarded Thrustmaster Nascar Pro Analog wheels. > > > But you do need it.If you say that the hardest part is getting used to > the PBM its because your not securely and fully anchoring your seat > from the pedals.

By "getting used to the PBM", I meant in comparison to the old TM pedals I was using. With them, the pressure was consistent through the entire breaking process. With the PBM2 module, it's more pressure the further you go. It's just a muscle memory thing at this point. My pdeal unit isn't walking, and the chair isn't moving. The good thing is that if I do decide that I need the Instant Cockpit, I can always just buy it. No big deal (but I hope it's not red - grin).

Im still plonked I guess :)) "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > John Simmons <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:<[email hidden]>...

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> > > In article <[email hidden]>, > > > [email hidden] says... > > > > I dont understand.Doesnt anyone here have the "Instant Cockpit pedal > > > > anchor base".Anytime you harden up a brake pedal beyond the normal > > > > squash ball you need to anchor the seat for full effect. > > > > > > > > > > I don't need it. The hardest part of this is getting used to the PBM > > > module. > > > > > > I will, however, buy the stick shifter they're working on when it > > > becomes available. These paddle shifters just don't do it for me.

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> > > currently finishing up an add-on sequential shifter using the shifter > > > off of one of my old discarded Thrustmaster Nascar Pro Analog wheels. > > > > > > But you do need it.If you say that the hardest part is getting used to > > the PBM its because your not securely and fully anchoring your seat > > from the pedals. > > By "getting used to the PBM", I meant in comparison to the old TM pedals > I was using. With them, the pressure was consistent through the entire > breaking process. With the PBM2 module, it's more pressure the further > you go. It's just a muscle memory thing at this point. My pdeal unit > isn't walking, and the chair isn't moving. > > The good thing is that if I do decide that I need the Instant Cockpit, I > can always just buy it. No big deal (but I hope it's not red - grin). > > >

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> I used to feel the same way John. Took me a long time to get used to the > paddles but now that I have I doubt Ill switch back given the opportunity. > I drove with one hand but now that Ive gotten used to both hands on the > wheel I feel I have much better car control. This is totally subjective > though. > > Mitch > > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <[email hidden]>, > > [email hidden] says... > > > I dont understand.Doesnt anyone here have the "Instant Cockpit pedal > > > anchor base".Anytime you harden up a brake pedal beyond the normal > > > squash ball you need to anchor the seat for full effect. > > > > > > > I don't need it. The hardest part of this is getting used to the PBM > > module. > > > > I will, however, buy the stick shifter they're working on when it > > becomes available. These paddle shifters just don't do it for me. I'm > > currently finishing up an add-on sequential shifter using the shifter > > off of one of my old discarded Thrustmaster Nascar Pro Analog wheels. > > >

No, you're not plonked. :) Even Dave isn't plonked, but, well, you know. I'm an obstinate SOB with a solid case of I'm right, he's wrong, and it doesn't look like anything's gonna change that. :) BTW, my homemade shifter works brilliantly (if not just a little clumsy to setup and take down. It shows up as buttons 10 and 15.