Grand Prix Legends Tracks

Here is the promised track-listing for GPL. (Just received it from Papy's Mike Lescault). Bear in mind though that this is NOT a COMPLETE list; only those tracks for which the licensing negotiations are done are listed: Kyalami Mexico City Monza Mosport Rouen Watkins Glen Zandvoort The same is valid for this list of featured drivers: Chris Amon Lorenzo Bandini Jean-Pierre Beltoise Joakim Bonnier Jack Brabham Jim Clark Ritchie Ginther Dan Gurney Graham Hill Denis Hulme Jacky Icks Chris Irwin Jochen Rindt Pedro Rodriguez Jo Siffert

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>Here is the promised track-listing for GPL. >(Just received it from Papy's Mike Lescault). >Bear in mind though that this is NOT a COMPLETE list; only >those tracks for which the licensing negotiations are done >are listed: >Kyalami >Mexico City >Monza >Mosport >Rouen >Watkins Glen >Zandvoort

If they don't get either Spa or the 'Ring finalized, it will hurt the game badly. And I wonder which version of Monza is going in. :) Also, I think we need a British track... either one will do. Not bad at all for a start. Missing? Quickly thought of Jackie Stewart and Gilles Villeneuve, and I'm not betting on either. I'd also like to see Ronnie Peterson (is he out of the defined era, though).

>If they don't get either Spa or the 'Ring finalized, it will hurt the >game badly. And I wonder which version of Monza is going in. :) Just check the AVI video of the pre-alpha of GPL. You will see witch Monza is in the game :) Not the big one (with the oval track). I think the big track was reserved for competitions like the 1000miles of Monza and others... But in the AVI they is no chicane, fast turn, very kewl. The talladega of F1. Well, they are trying to get Silverstone and Brand's March (sp?). In 1967 the Uk GP was in Silverstone but they also had a non-point race (kinda like Nascar Suzuka) at the other track. I think it was called the International Champions Race. Gilles Villeneuve is also out of the defined era, he started F1 in 1976 (or 75 bad memory). But still he could had raced in any era :-) But if they want to put him in the game I think they would have to do a seperate AI style for just him ! (I'm a Gilles fan, he was born about 5mins where I lived before in Berthier, Quebec. Fran?ois Mnard, Creator, rec.autos.simulators With great respect, May the downforce be with you, Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-) ymenard on NROS, sponsored by http://www.awpss.com/ SimRacing director, AWPSS - *Excuse me for my poor English(I'm French speaking) * -

Gilles Villenueve will never be in the game since it is based on the 1967 season, and he did not enter F1 until 1978 (?) driving a McLaren at Silverstone. -- Regards Glenn Beaumaris ------------------------------------------ "I believe in God-After All Helen Hunt Exists" =================================== The Quote of 1997: "The first thing you notice is her spirit and her talent, then her beauty hits you, and you're like, 'Well, excuse me, but she's gorgeous!' You don't even notice what she's wearing because her aura dominates. That's true style." >>Here is the promised track-listing for GPL. >>(Just received it from Papy's Mike Lescault). >>Bear in mind though that this is NOT a COMPLETE list; only >>those tracks for which the licensing negotiations are done >>are listed: >>Kyalami >>Mexico City >>Monza >>Mosport >>Rouen >>Watkins Glen >>Zandvoort >If they don't get either Spa or the 'Ring finalized, it will hurt the >game badly. And I wonder which version of Monza is going in. :) >Also, I think we need a British track... either one will do. >>The same is valid for this list of featured drivers: >>Chris Amon >>Lorenzo Bandini >>Jean-Pierre Beltoise >>Joakim Bonnier >>Jack Brabham >>Jim Clark >>Ritchie Ginther >>Dan Gurney >>Graham Hill >>Denis Hulme >>Jacky Icks >>Chris Irwin >>Jochen Rindt >>Pedro Rodriguez >>Jo Siffert >Not bad at all for a start. Missing? Quickly thought of Jackie Stewart >and Gilles Villeneuve, and I'm not betting on either. I'd also like >to see Ronnie Peterson (is he out of the defined era, though). begin 666 Glenn Beaumaris.vcf M0D5'24XZ5D-!4D0-"E9%4E-)3TXZ,BXQ#0I..D)E875M87)I<SM';&5N;CM( M4CM(3TU%.T5.0T]$24Y'/5%53U1%1"U04DE.5$%"3$4Z.SL],$0],$$],$0] M"DQ!0D5,.TA/344[14Y#3T1)3D<]455/5$5$+5!224Y404),13H],$0],$$] M1#TP04%U<W1R86QI80T*14U!24P[4%)%1CM)3E1%4DY%5#IG;&5N;F]M0&US ` end end

Papyrus know how to develop a good racing car simulator (I still get a great deal of satisfaction with ICR2 - still my favourite), so I'm really looking forward to this one. I'm not that bothered about the tracks. What I want is damn good physics and AI - something that I know Papyrus have the skill to deliver. So come on Papyrus - make it so! Alan

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> Here is the promised track-listing for GPL. > (Just received it from Papy's Mike Lescault). > Bear in mind though that this is NOT a COMPLETE list; only > those tracks for which the licensing negotiations are done > are listed: > Kyalami > Mexico City > Monza > Mosport > Rouen > Watkins Glen > Zandvoort

>Not bad at all for a start. Missing? Quickly thought of Jackie Stewart >and Gilles Villeneuve, and I'm not betting on either. I'd also like >to see Ronnie Peterson (is he out of the defined era, though). Stewart started a couple of years later AFAIK, Peterson was early-late seventies, and Villeneuve late seventies to early eighties. Cheers! John

A great applause for Papyrus' information policy! I'm serious. This is a great middle way of giving out badly wanted news without getting directly in the line of fire. Thanks Papy and Thor - keep this channel open!

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>Here is the promised track-listing for GPL. >(Just received it from Papy's Mike Lescault). >Bear in mind though that this is NOT a COMPLETE list; only >those tracks for which the licensing negotiations are done >are listed: >Kyalami >Mexico City >Monza >Mosport >Rouen >Watkins Glen >Zandvoort

Then let us all combine our spiritual powers and chant together: "Get the license for Nuerburgring and Spa." If the architecture of GPL will be as open as in earlier titles, it won't be a problem if some drivers and cars are missing. Give us a paintkit (better yet, give Earl Ma and Michael Carver a paint kit) and forget about the rest. :) Thanks again for letting out this info. I really appreciate it. -- Wolfgang Preiss \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome. wopr"at"stud.uni-sb.de \ There is no "2" in my real e-mail address. Uni des Saarlands \ Sorry for the inconvenience. You know why.

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>>Not bad at all for a start. Missing? Quickly thought of Jackie Stewart >>and Gilles Villeneuve, and I'm not betting on either. I'd also like >>to see Ronnie Peterson (is he out of the defined era, though). >Stewart started a couple of years later AFAIK, Peterson was early-late >seventies, and Villeneuve late seventies to early eighties. >Cheers! >John

Jackie Stewart started in F1 in 1965 driving for BRM. He was definitely active in 1967, driving the BRM H-16; didn't have too much success that season as I recall, although he did finish 2nd to Gurney at the Belgian GP. Gilles drove his first GP for McLaren at Silverstone in 1977, before moving on to Ferrari for the final 3 races of the season. Ronnie entered F1 in 1969, driving a privately entered March 701. He then moved into the works team the following year.

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>>>Not bad at all for a start. Missing? Quickly thought of Jackie Stewart >>>and Gilles Villeneuve, and I'm not betting on either. I'd also like >>>to see Ronnie Peterson (is he out of the defined era, though). >>Stewart started a couple of years later AFAIK, Peterson was early-late >>seventies, and Villeneuve late seventies to early eighties. >>Cheers! >>John >Jackie Stewart started in F1 in 1965 driving for BRM. He was >definitely active in 1967, driving the BRM H-16; didn't have too much >success that season as I recall, although he did finish 2nd to Gurney >at the Belgian GP. >Gilles drove his first GP for McLaren at Silverstone in 1977, before >moving on to Ferrari for the final 3 races of the season. >Ronnie entered F1 in 1969, driving a privately entered March 701. He >then moved into the works team the following year.

Oops, my mistake. Ronnie started F1 in 1970 with the 701. I believe MARCH made an experimental foray into F2 in 1969 with Ronnie as the driver.

>Stewart started a couple of years later AFAIK Couple of years earlier, actually. First GP was at East London in 65 (he won the Italian GP later that year). 67 was a very poor season for Jackie with a very unreliable car. He had just two finishes - 2nd at Spa (despite having to hold it in gear for much of the race!) and 3rd at Le Mans. BTW - he won the WC in the 69 season so that would have been quite a debut year <vbg> Cheers, Richard

>The same is valid for this list of featured drivers: For info, here is what I believe to be the missing drivers: Kurt Ahrens jnr (Nurburgring race only) Bob Anderson Richard Attwood (Mosport only) Giancarlo Baghetti (Monza only) Dave Charlton (Kyalami only) Piers Courage Hubert Hahne (Nurburgring only) Brian Hart (Nurburgring only) David Hobbs Guy Ligier John Love (Kyalami only - should have won but had to pit for fuel!) Bruce McLaren Gerhard Mitter (Nurburgring only) Silvio Moser (Silverstone only) Jackie Oliver (Nurburgring only) Mike Parkes (Zandvoort & Spa only) Al Pease (Mosport only) Alan Rees (Silverstone & Nurburgring only) Ludovico Scarfiotti Jo Schlesser (Nurburgring only) Georges Servoz-Gavin (Monte Carlo only) Moises Solana (Watkins Glen & Mexico City only) Mike Spence Jackie Stewart John Surtees Sam Tingle (Kyalami only) Eppie Wietzes (Mosport only) Jonathon Williams (Mexico only) I think that's it <g> All drove at least three races except where indicated. I think Papy may have a hard time tracking down some of these to get the appropriate licences.... ;-)) Cheers, Richard

I think John Surtees is still around somewhere. Saw him interviewed on TV in one of Sky's recent Golden Racing series. Mike.

>Well, they are trying to get Silverstone and Brand's March (sp?). In 1967 >the Uk GP was in Silverstone but they also had a non-point race (kinda like >Nascar Suzuka) at the other track. I think it was called the International >Champions Race. It's called Brands Hatch (not March, and no apostrophe). It's my local race circuit and a very fine one too. The Grand Prix track is awesome with huge long straights, difficult chicanes and the phenominal plunging Paddock Hill bend, it's a real racing driver's circuit. My only criticism is that even today it remains quite narrow with minimal run-off areas (primary reason why GP cars can't run there today)... but watching the British Touring Cars attempt to jostle for position is a real heart pounding experience. Most the time the circuit runs the Indy circuit which is a sub-1 minute portion of the main circuit - so named Indy since the CART teams raced here in 1978 for (I think) a non-championship points scoring event. Mike.

>Stewart started a couple of years later AFAIK, Peterson was early-late >seventies, and Villeneuve late seventies to early eighties. They weren't that old when they started racing, John. Sheesh, do some research! ;-) Mike.

Hi All! Just wanted to try out the new dashes for Nascar 2. Could someone please tell me where I should replace the old pcx file with the new one ? Thanxs In advance ! Please remove "98" from my address if replying. Jude R. 1996 AC Cobra(540hp) 1995 SHO(225hp) 1997 Windstar(It carries the kids and the spare parts)

John Surtees is most definitely *still around*!!! He is alive and kicking and living in Britain and does the occasional road test report for a classic car magazine, as well as tootling around Silverstone and Goodwood at their annual classic car events. -- Bruce. (At home)

I have very good memories of the good-old Zandvoor and Zolder. But my pants dropped when that gp2 track pack had the interim circuit which is being used by formulas up to F3 and not even F3000! If GPlegends still has got Silverstone with more then 6 bends, it's not a real sim! Greetings to all real F1 people Bart!

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> John Surtees is most definitely *still around*!!! > He is alive and kicking and living in Britain and does the occasional > road test report for a classic car magazine, as well as tootling around > Silverstone and Goodwood at their annual classic car events. > -- > Bruce. > (At home)

>John Surtees is most definitely *still around*!!! Thanks, Bruce. I was fairly sure that he was! Mike.