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Cart Racing/Indycar 2

5 posts by 5 people · 28 Nov 1997 - 01 Dec 1997

esoter 28 Nov 1997#384604
>Can anyone tell me if Cart Racing the recently re-named Rendition ready >version of Indycar Racing 2 is exactly the same as the bundled version of >Indycar Racing 2 that comes with the Intense 3D 100 video card? According to the CART info I got from www.sierra.com CART Racing = Indycar Racing 2 = same game
>Can anyone tell me if Cart Racing the recently re-named Rendition ready >version of Indycar Racing 2 is exactly the same as the bundled version of >Indycar Racing 2 that comes with the Intense 3D 100 video card? Virtually identical. The Intergraph Reactor ICR2 disk reports "version 1.0.2 -RN1 build #58", the Sierra CART disk reports "version 1.0.2 -RN1 build #61e". That may be accounted for by the changed CART graphics and opening audio. I don't know if there are any other internal changes. (The Sierra disk also includes unenhanced DOS and Win95 versions of the game.) The Rendition "helmet bug" is still there. The Paintkit is version 1.00 and has to be patched to 1.02 (sidepod seam and rear cowl spine bugs). The new Sierra release includes the full DOS/Win95/Mac manual (although no Mac version is on the disk), something you didn't get with the Intergraph bundle. The best reason to buy is the 200 page handbook by Steve Smith. Lots of good stuff in there! And the box carries a $10 rebate, good through 2/28/98. For me, I have DOS ICR2 and the Intergraph Reactor bundle, but it was worth purchasing ($25 at CompUSA though Dec. 6, minus the $10 rebate) for the handbook alone. YMMV. Before you send me UCE, I know what you're thinking... Did he complain to five or six postmasters last month? Now, you must ask yourself one question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do you, punk?
SimRaci 29 Nov 1997#384750
Hi Jeff, Lack of bug fixes were expected, but the release of CART Racing is no less a half-baked, last-ditched effort to a) avoid legal hassles from the Indy-license fiasco; b) keep gamers squaking until GPL's release; c) get another product on the shelves for the Christmas season. This is especially obvious when you consider the following (these are just the ones off the top of my head): 1) No updates to the included paintkit (ie: the currently available paintkit patches). 2) Steve's name is not Steven Smith, but Stephan Smith; a name he hasn't used for over 35-years (pen name is Steve Smith). 3) References in the manual to IndyCar changed to CART, in itself not too bad, except instances such as "...CART Racing II was released..." - Why not simply say ICR2? Sheesh! The other references just made for bad grammer (like I'm an expert<g>). 4) Missing chapters from the book (chap-1 comes to mind)...Papy (or Sierra, for that matter) didn't even allow for rewrites so's to check for accuracy in the info. 5) No Mac version - This I don't have a clue about, and there certainly may be some legitimate reason...? 6) Some of the screenshots from the game (in the CR manual) look as though they were XEROX'd, and then simply glued in place. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely adore the stuff that comes out of Papy's toybox...It's when they do boneheaded moves like this that get my goat. Worth the purchase, but just barely. Steve's guide is the only saving grace to CR...It's informative, entertaining, and will help many increase their lap times for better gameplay. Too bad they didn't care about how this made Papyrus/Sierra/Steve look when they decided to ship it. Cheers! Marc Marc J. Nelson Sim Racing Online / Sim Racing News / The Sim Project http://members.aol.com/simracing
<Snip> From what I've seen from Sierra in the last few years, they seem to care little of what anyone thinks of them. CART Racing (ICR2) is typical of there current tendancy to milk a product to the point of being ridiculous. I was once a fan of their FPS Football games, but Football 98 is very little more than FB93 v1.xx. To see a little of this for yourself go take a quick look in "The Stadium" (The message board for Sierra football and baseball games). Not a lot of happy souls in their - and understandably so! Then I could go on about the non 3d support in this latest version of ICR2, but I really don't care anymore. Sorry to be a pain, but Sierra has driven me to this over the last 12 months. I would not be at all suprised to see a lot of the companys/programming teams that comprise Sierra taking a walk in the not to distant future. Sierra seem to be money orientated to the point of self destruction of late.
There is 3D support in CART Racing. Native Rendition, not 3dFX though which is what many people wanted. Cheers! John

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