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Which 3D Card (again)

6 posts by 5 people · 27 Nov 1997 - 30 Nov 1997

This subject has done the rounds a bit, but I still don't quite get it yet... I'm trying to understand the differences between them but keep getting confused. Rendition cards (like Diamond Stealth 3D 2000) support Microsoft's Direct3D, DirectX, DirectDraw (whatever that is). Correct? From what I've been hearing in the group, 3dfx cards (like Diamond Monster) provide the best graphics, but they don't support Direct3D or DirectX do they? So what do games support? What card should I buy? Microsoft's idea with Direct is to provide a common interface to programmers regardless of hardware, so are games authors going for it? If I get a 3dfx, what games support it and am I better off getting a Direct supportive one for the furture? I gather Ubisoft's F1RS supports both, but the 3dfx version is better. But what will I miss out on if I got a 3dfx? Thanks in advance for any info... - Gwyn.
The Stealth is not a Rendition card. The Stealth II is. And it Direct3D only. Direct3D is a part of DirectX and Directeverything else are separate parts of DirectX. No graphics card will affect DirectSound, common sense will tell you why. DirectDraw isn't needed with a 3D card, since its all done in 3D. Either Direct3D or DirectDraw will be used. 3Dfx cards support Direct3D, and just about everyone supports 3Dfx, so get a 3Dfx card. www.3dfx.com.
Quoted text (20 lines)>This subject has done the rounds a bit, but I still don't quite get it >yet... I'm trying to understand the differences between them but keep >getting confused. >Rendition cards (like Diamond Stealth 3D 2000) support Microsoft's >Direct3D, DirectX, DirectDraw (whatever that is). Correct? >From what I've been hearing in the group, 3dfx cards (like Diamond Monster) >provide the best graphics, but they don't support Direct3D or DirectX do >they? >So what do games support? What card should I buy? >Microsoft's idea with Direct is to provide a common interface to >programmers regardless of hardware, so are games authors going for it? If I >get a 3dfx, what games support it and am I better off getting a Direct >supportive one for the furture? >I gather Ubisoft's F1RS supports both, but the 3dfx version is better. But >what will I miss out on if I got a 3dfx? >Thanks in advance for any info... > - Gwyn.
raf 27 Nov 1997#384412
>From what I've been hearing in the group, 3dfx cards (like Diamond Monster) >provide the best graphics, but they don't support Direct3D or DirectX do >they? I have a Diamond Monster 3D with the 3dfx Voodoo chipset. It does support MS Direct 3D and Direct X. I really like mine. It's not a replacement to your regular video card, but an addition, that has a cable that connects to your 2D card. Whenever it recognizes software that is compatible with it, then it takes over, otherwise, your 2D video card is in control. 3dfx is widely supported by many 3D games...and those that don't, have 3dfx patches available over the internet. From what I hear, there is going to be a 3dfx patch for Papyrus Nascar2 sometime around X-mas. Some of the games that have 3dfx support include: Tomb Raiders, Mech Warrior, Quake, Lands of Lore-Guardians of Destiny, MDK, and many more. I suggest you go to the following *** web site, which has a lot more info than I can provide: [link lost in import] Regards, Rich
Hi Rich. Thanks for the info (and also to the others who replied - Chris Shaw and Robin Sequira) I guess the message is that 3dfx does support Direct. The reason I was confused is that I was looking through adverts and saw all the cards that purported to support Direct, but the 3dfx ones didn't mention it (although they mentioned lots of other impressive sounding blurb). Then I saw a post here from someone saynig they had a Diamond Stealth (which supports Direct) AND a Diamond Monster, so I couldn't work out if I needed both. So it sounds like all I need is a Diamond Monster, then I can play all the Direct 3D games AND the even better 3dfx ones. Right? Am I really not losing out on anything with a 3dfx? What will be the advantages of the new Voodoo chipset next year? Will it be faster for existing 3dfx games, or just provide extra features that we will have to wait for games to take advantage of? Cheers, Gwyn.
cookso 30 Nov 1997#384855
First of all lets get some things straightened out. Some game titles can use hardware based 3D acceleration. Unless you have a 3D card, you cannot take advantage of 3D hardware accelleration. There are two major methods for programming for 3D hardware acceleration. These are :- 1. Microsofts Direct 3D (Known as D3D and can be used by most 3D cards including Rendition II and 3dfx cards) 2. 3dfx Glide (Can only be used if you have a 3dfx 3D card) Note that Glide produces the most spectacular graphics and the highest frame rates of the two methods. Note that 3dfx cards handle both Glide games and D3D games and it is for this reason that you should get a 3dfx over any other 3D card. Cheers JOhn Cookson (Canada)

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