Papyrus Cart Racing: Who are they crappin?

I think it is disgusting that Papy repackaged ICR2 called it something different (amazing similar to CPR), and is trying to sell it like it is something new. I wonder how many unsuspecting people think this is ICR3? I was almost fooled into thinking is was CPR. The box covers look very similar with the CART logo all over the place. So papy, who are ya crappin with that? -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

On Thu, 27 Nov 1997 13:47:12 -0600, "Greg Cisko"

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>I think it is disgusting that Papy repackaged ICR2 called it >something different (amazing similar to CPR), and is trying >to sell it like it is something new. I wonder how many unsuspecting >people think this is ICR3? I was almost fooled into thinking is was >CPR. The box covers look very similar with the CART logo all >over the place. >So papy, who are ya crappin with that?

No-one. I believe they're trying to avoid being crapped on by a whole bunch of lawyers who are being paid thousands of dollars to make sure that the words "Indy" and "Car" shall never meet again. Waste of time and money, but there you are. Cheers! John

On Thu, 27 Nov 1997 13:47:12 -0600, "Greg Cisko"

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>I think it is disgusting that Papy repackaged ICR2 called it >something different (amazing similar to CPR), and is trying >to sell it like it is something new. I wonder how many unsuspecting >people think this is ICR3? I was almost fooled into thinking is was >CPR. The box covers look very similar with the CART logo all >over the place. >So papy, who are ya crappin with that? >-- >Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

Sorry to say, you are totally misinformed about the name change of Indy Car Racing II to CART Racing. If you follow real racing at all you may be aware of the "Indy Racing League." Since the IRL is owned by the same folks who own Indianapolis Motor Speedway, this organization owns the rights to everything "Indy." The IRL and CART have had an ongoing fued/legal battle for over two years (maybe you missed it). Because Sierra/Payrus has a licensing agreement with CART, not the IRL, they had to change the name of the game as a consequence of the IRL-CART battle over licensing issues. To the best of my knowledge Sierra/Papyrus has never claimed that CART Racing is a new game. In fact, the most recent issue of their "magalog" clearly states that CART Racing was formerly called ICR 2 and the copy describing CART Racing makes no attempt to mislead the customer. Jack Russell Jack Russell Jack Russell (Remove anti-SPAM asterisks from address to send e-mail)

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>I think it is disgusting that Papy repackaged ICR2 called it >something different (amazing similar to CPR), and is trying >to sell it like it is something new. I wonder how many unsuspecting >people think this is ICR3? I was almost fooled into thinking is was >CPR. The box covers look very similar with the CART logo all >over the place. >So papy, who are ya crappin with that?

Greg look at the front of the box, it says.."previously released as Indy Car Racing II" You shouldn't get fooled if you read the box. BTW you do know they had to change the name don't you? (They can't legally use Indycar name anymore, it belongs to IRL) Bob

Not really - apparently not even Tony George (or anyone for that matter) can use the name IndyCar for several years...Indy Racing League is a whole different deal. Cheers! Marc

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>I think it is disgusting that Papy repackaged ICR2 called it >something different (amazing similar to CPR), and is trying >to sell it like it is something new. I wonder how many unsuspecting >people think this is ICR3? I was almost fooled into thinking is was >CPR. The box covers look very similar with the CART logo all >over the place. >So papy, who are ya crappin with that?

Take your ***in' to Tony George. He's the one who forced the package change. Every hear or the IRL and their battle with CART to force CART to drop use of the name Indy from anything CART related? Gary -- "If you think there's a solution, you're part of the problem" ...George Carlin

On Thu, 27 Nov 1997 13:47:12 -0600, "Greg Cisko"

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>I think it is disgusting that Papy repackaged ICR2 called it >something different (amazing similar to CPR), and is trying >to sell it like it is something new. I wonder how many unsuspecting >people think this is ICR3? I was almost fooled into thinking is was >CPR. The box covers look very similar with the CART logo all >over the place. >So papy, who are ya crappin with that?

I initially had this response, but the following has changed my mind (or at least tempered my criticism ;) * List price is only $30, not what you'd expect to pay for a brand new sim ($50 or more). (BTW, CompUSA has got it on sale for $25 through Dec. 6.) * The package contains a $10 rebate, good through 2/28/97. So the effective list price is now only $20. * The package includes a 200 page handbook by Steve Smith. Very good stuff in there! To me, this alone is worth buying the package for (and at $25-10 = $15 for the handbook, I don't think you can say its not a fair value for the book alone). * The box is clearly marked that its a reissue. Aside from labeling it "NOT Microsoft CART Precision Racing" is 144 point type, *some* people are going to be fooled anyways. ;) Before you send me UCE, I know what you're thinking... Did he complain to five or six postmasters last month? Now, you must ask yourself one question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do you, punk?