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OT: I'd Like One Of These Please :-)

27 posts by 14 people · 03 May 2004 12:38 UTC - 11 May 2004 17:24 UTC

Lotus Elise coming to the US and other dream cars

David G Fisher shared news that the Lotus Elise was coming to the US. Others debated the Elise against the Lancer Evo VIII, Lotus Esprit and Alfa Romeos, with owners describing their own cars and Alfa reliability.

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No, one of these http://vip.cars.msn.co.uk/ResearchCentre/NewCars/standardcontent.asp?guid=CB6C5D4D54AA4C6A881EE2519D6F3BE7&screen=standard&category=&init=77710320040331 Andi. -- Remove only one zero to reply. "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > This beautiful car is finally coming to the U.S. :-o > > http://autos.msn.com/advice/photogallery.aspx?contentid=4022490 > > I bet a mod based on this car using the GTR/F1C engine would be great fun > online. > > David G Fisher > > >
> This beautiful car is finally coming to the U.S. :-o > But not Canada :( (10mph bumper law instead of 5mph) Lotus handling with a bullet proof leak free Japanese engine, it's only taken what? 40 years! ;)
I wouldn't say it is beautiful but it's on top of my list to. Ill buy one for my mid life crisis! ;) I remember not being very enthusiastic about GPL because it was a kind of car I would never drive in real life. But GPL changed my view on real life cars. The Elise is probably the most "GPL-like" car you can get. -- Jone Tytlandsvik http://tytlandsvik.no mailto: firstname at lastname dot no
I have the EVO VIII, what an awesome car, just small mods, and this thing just drives like nothing else. Put's a smile on my face everyday. The steering response is amazing, and the turbo kicks in and pulls to redline, now with a boost controller. "Jone Tytlandsvik" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:c76b9j$9idt$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (12 lines)> I wouldn't say it is beautiful but it's on top of my list to. Ill buy one > for my mid life crisis! ;) > I remember not being very enthusiastic about GPL because it was a kind of > car I would never drive in real life. But GPL changed my view on real life > cars. The Elise is probably the most "GPL-like" car you can get. > > -- > Jone Tytlandsvik > http://tytlandsvik.no > mailto: firstname at lastname dot no > >
>This beautiful car is finally coming to the U.S. :-o I dunno...I prefer the Esprit, myself. I've never gotten into the styling of the Elise. Eldred -- http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Screamers League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH:na N2k3 rank:in progress Slayer Spektera lvl 72 assassin Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro US East
Andrew 03 May 2004 22:05 UTC↳ reply to EldredP#38352
On 03 May 2004 21:55:26 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: >>This beautiful car is finally coming to the U.S. :-o > >I dunno...I prefer the Esprit, myself. I've never gotten into the styling of >the Elise. You only have to look at Vauxhall's remix of the Elise, the VX220, to make the Elise look a whole lot better. -- Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevant text. Check groups.google.com before asking a question.
Tony Rickard wrote: > That offset plate reminds me of an Alfa Romeo. Just with all the style > removed... But with an extra bucketload of reliability ;) > The eighth evolution, each one goes faster, handles better, still > looks like > the result of a trip to Halfords :) Oh to have a the Alfa styling and the reliability of something errr... more reliable :) -- Ian P (ex Alfa Romeo owner) <email invalid due to spammers>
"Ian P" wrote: > Oh to have a the Alfa styling and the reliability of something errr...more > reliable :) Modern Alfas are not like the rusting Suds of the 70s you know! Though I may be biased... Tony (156 V6, wife GTV) :)
Tony Rickard wrote: > > Modern Alfas are not like the rusting Suds of the 70s you know! > > Though I may be biased... > > Tony (156 V6, wife GTV) :) 156 2.0 TS, for about 3 months last year. You REALLY don't wanna see the list of faults ! -- Ian P <email invalid due to spammers>
"Ian P" wrote:
Quoted text (8 lines)> > Modern Alfas are not like the rusting Suds of the 70s you know! > > > > Though I may be biased... > > > > Tony (156 V6, wife GTV) :) > > 156 2.0 TS, for about 3 months last year. > You REALLY don't wanna see the list of faults !
Unfortunately there do seem to be some rogues out there, and the dealer network is a matter of luck where you live. However, one of the big problems as 156s have become acceptable as company cars is the fact non Alfa enthusiasts don't expect to pop the bonnet up between services. These engines are designed to use oil and consumption can be as high as 1 litre/1000km from new. Many early demises of engines at low miles is simply through lack of oil, and a common fault with twin sparks is variator failure due to oil starvation. The V6 is a classic engine though. Alfa fans have to hope the guys in Italy can work some wonders to make the new GM V6 engine sound right in the next generation Alfas...
And the latest Evos (UK NR 340) come with 340bhp with a claimed 450bhp package on the way, who cares if it's pretty it's loud fast and furious. Andi. -- Remove only one zero to reply. "Tony Rickard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YqTlc.1886$[email hidden]... > "Ian P" wrote: > > > > Modern Alfas are not like the rusting Suds of the 70s you know! > > > > > > Though I may be biased... > > > > > > Tony (156 V6, wife GTV) :) > > > > 156 2.0 TS, for about 3 months last year. > > You REALLY don't wanna see the list of faults ! > > Unfortunately there do seem to be some rogues out there, and the dealer > network is a matter of luck where you live. However, one of the big problems > as 156s have become acceptable as company cars is the fact non Alfa > enthusiasts don't expect to pop the bonnet up between services. These > engines are designed to use oil and consumption can be as high as 1 > litre/1000km from new. Many early demises of engines at low miles is simply > through lack of oil, and a common fault with twin sparks is variator failure > due to oil starvation. > > The V6 is a classic engine though. Alfa fans have to hope the guys in Italy > can work some wonders to make the new GM V6 engine sound right in the next > generation Alfas... > >
Got mine last December, just waiting to run the 300 horses in then having the 330 or 340 upgrade. Andi. -- Remove only one zero to reply. "mjones53" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I have the EVO VIII, what an awesome car, just small mods, and this thing > just drives like nothing else. Put's a smile on my face everyday. The > steering response is amazing, and the turbo kicks in and pulls to redline, > now with a boost controller. > "Jone Tytlandsvik" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:c76b9j$9idt$[email hidden]... > > I wouldn't say it is beautiful but it's on top of my list to. Ill buy one > > for my mid life crisis! ;) > > I remember not being very enthusiastic about GPL because it was a kind of > > car I would never drive in real life. But GPL changed my view on real life > > cars. The Elise is probably the most "GPL-like" car you can get. > > > > -- > > Jone Tytlandsvik > > http://tytlandsvik.no > > mailto: firstname at lastname dot no > > > > > >
"Andi Cole" wrote: > And the latest Evos (UK NR 340) come with 340bhp with a claimed 450bhp > package on the way, who cares if it's pretty it's loud fast and furious. RAS's very own Vin Diesel :)
"Andi Cole" wrote: > Got mine last December, just waiting to run the 300 horses in then having > the 330 or 340 upgrade. Will you really notice those extra 30-40? 300 seems quite a lot really. Methinks you are turning into a horsepower freak Mr.Cole :) Cheers Tony
David G Fisher wrote:
Quoted text (11 lines)> This beautiful car is finally coming to the U.S. :-o > > http://autos.msn.com/advice/photogallery.aspx?contentid=4022490 > > I bet a mod based on this car using the GTR/F1C engine would be great fun > online. > > David G Fisher > > >
A friend of mine at work was so enthused he took us on a 2 hour lunchbreak to stop by the dealership and put his name on the list. He's number 77 fullfilling at 6 cars per month ;) So I anticipate another long lunch in about a year... - Matt
EldredP wrote:
Quoted text (7 lines)>>This beautiful car is finally coming to the U.S. :-o > > > I dunno...I prefer the Esprit, myself. I've never gotten into the styling of > the Elise. > > Eldred
I agree. But the difference between $45,000 and $92,500 is likely something my wife would notice. She won't even let me buy a Ferarri when we win the lottory - "No cars that cost more than a house!" (The obvious idea to buy a bigger house first has already been overruled ;) - Matt
Quoted text (12 lines)>> I dunno...I prefer the Esprit, myself. I've never gotten into the styling >of >> the Elise. >> >> Eldred > >I agree. But the difference between $45,000 and $92,500 is likely >something my wife would notice. She won't even let me buy a Ferarri >when we win the lottory - "No cars that cost more than a house!" > >(The obvious idea to buy a bigger house first has already >been overruled ;)
Ouch... I never said I could *afford* the flipping thing - I just prefer it. <g> Since I don't have the money, I've never seriously considered getting one. I didn't realize the Esprit was that much more expensive... :-( Eldred -- http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Screamers League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH:na N2k3 rank:in progress Slayer Spektera lvl 72 assassin Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro US East
Tony Rickard wrote:
Quoted text (14 lines)> > Unfortunately there do seem to be some rogues out there, and the > dealer network is a matter of luck where you live. However, one of > the big problems as 156s have become acceptable as company cars is > the fact non Alfa enthusiasts don't expect to pop the bonnet up > between services. These engines are designed to use oil and > consumption can be as high as 1 litre/1000km from new. Many early > demises of engines at low miles is simply through lack of oil, and a > common fault with twin sparks is variator failure due to oil > starvation. > > The V6 is a classic engine though. Alfa fans have to hope the guys in > Italy can work some wonders to make the new GM V6 engine sound right > in the next generation Alfas...
Maybe I should buy myself a 156 GTA :) -- Ian P <email invalid due to spammers>
EldredP wrote:
Quoted text (21 lines)>>>I dunno...I prefer the Esprit, myself. I've never gotten into the styling >> >>of >> >>>the Elise. >>> >>>Eldred >> >>I agree. But the difference between $45,000 and $92,500 is likely >>s > > Ouch... > > I never said I could *afford* the flipping thing - I just prefer it. > <g> > Since I don't have the money, I've never seriously considered getting one. I > didn't realize the Esprit was that much more expensive... :-( > > Eldred
But it's twice as expensive but 4 times cooler looking ;)
"Ian P" wrote: > > The V6 is a classic engine though. Alfa fans have to hope the guys in > > Italy can work some wonders to make the new GM V6 engine sound right > > in the next generation Alfas... > > Maybe I should buy myself a 156 GTA :) Well Vicki Butler-Henderson certainly likes it... :) http://www.fimonet.com/alfa/alfa_gb.wmv
"Dave Henrie" wrote: > > Well Vicki Butler-Henderson certainly likes it... :) > > > > http://www.fimonet.com/alfa/alfa_gb.wmv > > > Dang near 50K US Dollars? Gimmie a Subaru WRX STI. No soul... Anyway you aren't even allowed to buy Alfas in the US. Though there are some bizarre laws that allow you to import them if you have owned them in Europe for long enough. You see Alfas haven't been through the stringent US crash tests, the things cars had to go through before the manufacturers invented SUVs (which are classified as trucks which don't seem to have any tests at all!)

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