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TD4 vs. NFS2SE

11 posts by 9 people · 21 Nov 1997 - 22 Nov 1997

Mark Smi 21 Nov 1997#383499
I see that EB has both of these titles now. I've played the demos for each and they seem rather "arcadish". Can anyone give any feedback on the full product of either title. I like the idea of the muscle cars in TD4 and I DON'T like the idea of no ***pit in 3Dfx NFS2SE. NFS seems to offer on one new track while charging me another $40 for a 3Dfx patch that I should be able to download for FREE. TD4 looks like it may be promising. Any comparisons of PC and PSX versions would be welcome too.
Matt Star 21 Nov 1997#383500
I have both. NFS2 SE has no***pit in 3dfx mode. It has neutral, and it is a little smoother. NFS2 SE has more realistic car performance. No downloadable cars or tracks. Lame brake lights and good menus. Cars are modeled with their real wheels. Brakes actually lock up on NFS2 SE. TD4 has a***pit view, but with no working guages. No neutral and is not as smooth as NFS2 SE. The steering is too sensitive. Car performance is not correct. A '98 Corvette does 11s in the quarter, when in real life the '98 Corvette will do low 13s on a good day. Has downloadable cars and tracks for FREE! Cool brake lights. Menus suck. Cars modeled with generic 5 star wheels on all cars. Nice***pit view with unfunctional guages, but the steering wheel moves (would have like working guages better). Brakes do not lock up on any cars (I guess all cars have ABS) Matt
Quoted text (10 lines)> I see that EB has both of these titles now. > I've played the demos for each and they seem rather "arcadish". > Can anyone give any feedback on the full product of either title. > I like the idea of the muscle cars in TD4 and I DON'T like the idea of no >***pit in 3Dfx NFS2SE. NFS seems to offer on one new track while charging me > another $40 for a 3Dfx patch that I should be able to download for FREE. > TD4 looks like it may be promising. Any comparisons of PC and PSX versions > would be welcome too.
John Cookso 21 Nov 1997#383501
I was nervous about buying NFS2 SE because of the 'NO***PIT' view and I felt peeved about having to pay again as I already own NFS1 NFS1-SE and NFS2 (NFS2 was awful BTW). However I got the game and I have to say it is WONDERFUL. Using a 3dfx card it is the best arcade style racer I have ever seen. Everything is absolutely perfect and it runs smooth as silk. Not even any of those typical Win95 swap file hiccups and stutters. My hat comes off to whoever developed this one for EA and because of this games off-the-scale quality, I don't begrudge them a penny. They deserve all the money they get for this superb effort. You get both a 3dfx glide version and a non-3D version on the CD The non-3D version has a***pit view and even this is a lot better than the old NFS2 (Smoother with better driving model). The controller support and customisation options are also a model for any racing game developer (certainly this area is a big let down in Test Drive 4). If you have a 3dfx card, you will not regret getting this game. John Cookson
ra.. 22 Nov 1997#383651
I just bought TD4 today ...played with for a few hours, & on my system (P166mmx, R3D, 48 megs) no comparison to NFS2SE. TD4 runs very choppy making it near impossible to control, graphics draw ahead are so noticeable that what looks like a straight road turns into a 90 barely in time to react. It has a dash view but no gauges work and my red cars dash is bright blue. Night driving is maddening sorta like driving with a desk lamp over your car... you can't see the traffic until you wack'm ... the cars have no lights. Your car has brake lights but I didn't notice that traffic or opponents did. Another thing I find annoying is the sparks that fly when you hit something are very distinctive rather large orange triangles. But even if my CPU could handle the graphics, the game has a very cumbersome menu system, doesn't remember setups.. you have to select your controller every time you start the game. The Drag Race game gives you one run, then the results, then loads you back to the main screen. It takes 11 sec for the race and about a minute of menu hopping to race again. My mouse doesn't work on the menus (?) so I have to use the arrow keys to move between selections. Anyway... my experience is the game sucks big time unless I'm doing something drastically wrong. While both games are for sure arcade racers, NFS2SE runs rings around TD4.. if it only had the dash view (with working gauges). If anyone can provide tips to make this thing run on my system it might save me a trip back to the store Monday. RAH
Quoted text (10 lines)>> I see that EB has both of these titles now. >> I've played the demos for each and they seem rather "arcadish". >> Can anyone give any feedback on the full product of either title. >> I like the idea of the muscle cars in TD4 and I DON'T like the idea of no >>***pit in 3Dfx NFS2SE. NFS seems to offer on one new track while charging me >> another $40 for a 3Dfx patch that I should be able to download for FREE. >> TD4 looks like it may be promising. Any comparisons of PC and PSX versions >> would be welcome too.
> If anyone can provide tips to make this thing run on my system it > might save me a trip back to the store Monday. Buy a 3dfx/Voodoo vid card. :) You'll need one sometime anyway, so might as well enjoy it now.
> If anyone can provide tips to make this thing run on my system it > might save me a trip back to the store Monday. Buy a 3dfx/Voodoo 3d vid card. :) You'll need one sometime anyway, so might as well enjoy it now.
Fusi 22 Nov 1997#383654
>Buy a 3dfx/Voodoo vid card. :) You'll need one sometime anyway, so might >as well enjoy it now. Read his post again.... R3D... --
JustM 22 Nov 1997#383655
Tried the TD4 Demo and wasnt impressed. NFS2SE (w/3dfx) gets my vote by far.
Quoted text (10 lines)>Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 06:17:19 GMT >About: TD4 vs. NFS2SE >[e-mailed and posted, please reply to rec.autos.simulators if >possible] >>TD4 looks like it may be promising. >I hoped so too. The sad truth is - it sucks. It's just so incredibly >boring.
Leho Kra 22 Nov 1997#383656
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 06:17:19 GMT About: TD4 vs. NFS2SE [e-mailed and posted, please reply to rec.autos.simulators if possible] I hoped so too. The sad truth is - it sucks. It's just so incredibly boring.
Kevin 22 Nov 1997#383657
> > If anyone can provide tips to make this thing run on my system it > > might save me a trip back to the store Monday. > Buy a 3dfx/Voodoo 3d vid card. :) You'll need one sometime anyway, so > might as well enjoy it now. He's right. The difference between the normal version and the 3dfx version is like night and day. Even with 3dfx, the game still sucks. Great idea, bad execution.
Leho Kra 22 Nov 1997#383658
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 04:22:32 GMT About: Re: TD4 vs. NFS2SE [e-mailed and posted, please reply to rec.autos.simulators if possible] You aren't doing anything wrong. TD4 is just another big letdown. It's like half of the game is done, but then the makers got tired.

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