NROS Steering Jitters

Hello fellow racers, I am having a small problem with NROS on TEN and was wondering if anyone else is experiencing it or if there are any suggestions to help eliminate it. While racing NROS on TEN, my steering gets 'twitchy' and sometimes my car is pulled toward the wall for a split second. This decreases my lap times because I usually have to either try to avoid hitting the wall or losing control of my car! It is most noticable on longer tracks such as talledega. I noticed that when I goto the joystick calibration that the signals seem to be 'spiking' or getting noise from somewhere and this may be what is causing the problem. When I try to run N2 offline (No TEN) in Win95 or DOS it disappears! Any suggestions or insight would be GREATLY APPRECIATED! Here is my computer setup: Pentium P200MMX w/40MB RAM Matrox Mystique w/4MB SGRAM Soundblaster 64 value BOCA 28.8k modem (no voice) Logitech Digital Extreme Joystick Note that my frame rates are fine and I have all the patches! It also doesn't matter what zone I am racing in. If I could only figure out why my joystick signals are spiking.....The joystick is plugged into the joystick port on my Soundblaster 64 and really has been a GREAT joystick so far (it's digital), until this happened. Any suggestions? Chris Thomas

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> Hello fellow racers, > I am having a small problem with NROS on TEN and was wondering if anyone > else is experiencing it or if there are any suggestions to help > eliminate it. While racing NROS on TEN, my steering gets 'twitchy' and > sometimes my car is pulled toward the wall for a split second. This > decreases my lap times because I usually have to either try to avoid > hitting the wall or losing control of my car! It is most noticable on > longer tracks such as talledega. I noticed that when I goto the > joystick calibration that the signals seem to be 'spiking' or getting > noise from somewhere and this may be what is causing the problem. When > I try to run N2 offline (No TEN) in Win95 or DOS it disappears! Any > suggestions or insight would be GREATLY APPRECIATED! Here is my > computer setup: > Pentium P200MMX w/40MB RAM > Matrox Mystique w/4MB SGRAM > Soundblaster 64 value > BOCA 28.8k modem (no voice) > Logitech Digital Extreme Joystick > Note that my frame rates are fine and I have all the patches! It also > doesn't matter what zone I am racing in. If I could only figure out why > my joystick signals are spiking.....The joystick is plugged into the > joystick port on my Soundblaster 64 and really has been a GREAT joystick > so far (it's digital), until this happened. Any suggestions? > Chris Thomas

You know, the kneejerk response would be, "your steering pot is dirty". But, I would ask you if it does it either in Win95 offline or in DOS? And I'll bet the answer is "No". It happens to me too, and ONLY during online sessions, either NROS or during modem play. And it isn't like a steering spike, it's more like I'm getting bumped by some invisible force, from the right rear, getting me turned to the right, into the wall. It's really annoying. Patrick. -- ================================================= ===--- Patrick O'Neal (PatrickO on TEN/NRO) --=== ===------- Shamrock Racing Enterprises -------=== =-- (Remove $#NOSPAM#$ from my reply address) --= =================================================

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> > Hello fellow racers, > > I am having a small problem with NROS on TEN and was wondering if anyone > > else is experiencing it or if there are any suggestions to help > > eliminate it. While racing NROS on TEN, my steering gets 'twitchy' and > > sometimes my car is pulled toward the wall for a split second. This > > decreases my lap times because I usually have to either try to avoid > > hitting the wall or losing control of my car! It is most noticable on > > longer tracks such as talledega. I noticed that when I goto the > > joystick calibration that the signals seem to be 'spiking' or getting > > noise from somewhere and this may be what is causing the problem. When > > I try to run N2 offline (No TEN) in Win95 or DOS it disappears! Any > > suggestions or insight would be GREATLY APPRECIATED! Here is my > > computer setup: > > Pentium P200MMX w/40MB RAM > > Matrox Mystique w/4MB SGRAM > > Soundblaster 64 value > > BOCA 28.8k modem (no voice) > > Logitech Digital Extreme Joystick > > Note that my frame rates are fine and I have all the patches! It also > > doesn't matter what zone I am racing in. If I could only figure out why > > my joystick signals are spiking.....The joystick is plugged into the > > joystick port on my Soundblaster 64 and really has been a GREAT joystick > > so far (it's digital), until this happened. Any suggestions? > > Chris Thomas > You know, the kneejerk response would be, "your steering pot is dirty". > But, I would ask you if it does it either in Win95 offline or in DOS? > And I'll bet the answer is "No". It happens to me too, and ONLY during > online sessions, either NROS or during modem play. And it isn't like a > steering spike, it's more like I'm getting bumped by some invisible > force, from the right rear, getting me turned to the right, into the > wall. It's really annoying. > Patrick. > -- > ================================================= > ===--- Patrick O'Neal (PatrickO on TEN/NRO) --=== > ===------- Shamrock Racing Enterprises -------=== > =-- (Remove $#NOSPAM#$ from my reply address) --= > =================================================

Patrick, You just described the effect to the tee! That is exactly what is happening to me, only you described it better. It ONLY happens when racing on NROS. I havent tried plain modem racing. Never happens when I'm offline racing. Do you have the same soundcard and joystick as I? I've heard of problems with using the Soundblaster 64 joystick port and online racing. Any help out there? Chris Thomas

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> Patrick, > You just described the effect to the tee! That is exactly what is > happening to me, only you described it better. It ONLY happens when > racing on NROS. I havent tried plain modem racing. Never happens when > I'm offline racing. Do you have the same soundcard and joystick as I? > I've heard of problems with using the Soundblaster 64 joystick port and > online racing. Any help out there? > Chris Thomas

Chris, I'm using a Soundblaster AWE32 but running my joystick through a CH game card 3, not the soundcard. FWIW, I'm running a Pentium 233 Also, N2 is fully patched. Patrick. -- (Remove the obvious from my return address) PatrickO on TEN/NRO The #57 Sunny Delight Ford Thunderbird Shamrock Racing Enterprises --

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>> > sometimes my car is pulled toward the wall for a split second. >> > Pentium P200MMX w/40MB RAM >> > Matrox Mystique w/4MB SGRAM >> > Soundblaster 64 value >> > BOCA 28.8k modem (no voice) >> > Logitech Digital Extreme Joystick >> It happens to me too, and ONLY during >> online sessions, either NROS or during modem play. And it isn't like a >> steering spike, it's more like I'm getting bumped by some invisible >> force, from the right rear, getting me turned to the right, into the >> wall. It's really annoying. >> I'm using a Soundblaster AWE32 but running my joystick through >>a CH game card 3, not the soundcard. FWIW, I'm running a Pentium 233 >>Also, N2 is fully patched.

I've had the same thing happen to me a few times too. I don't know if it makes any difference but it started happening after I upgraded to an Intel P233mmx (From a P166). That's when I started using the new nros.exe too (another variable). Anyway, FWIW, my equipment: Intel P233mmx, ABIT IT5H rev1.5 mother brd, bios 3K-5/14/97 Intense 3D,? Bios74,? Driver 04.03.21.13 128MB ram,? Win95a,? ESS wavetable sound Zoom V34I+33.6 (same problem w/cardinal 33.6 ext) ECCI CDS2 running on a Thrustmaster ACM game card N2 w/ all updates & BGN Anybody else having this problem? If so, what sort of system configuration do you have? Mike Radler Member - Hawaii Ace League http://www.dithots.org/hal