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N2 Setup Help, Please...Loose coming out!

8 posts by 7 people · 17 Nov 1997 - 19 Nov 1997

BSPN 17 Nov 1997#382902
OK, all you set up guru's, let's talk about approaching a problem I'm getting more and more lately....When I get back on the gas comin out of a turn I get loose (Michigan and Atlanta, let's say...). I think it's the LR breaking loose and the RR driving the nose down to the apron. Generally I attack it by softening the LR shock or making the RR a little stiffer. But it doesn't seem to be terribly effective, and at a point it starts screwing up the rest of the setup. I'm wondering if there's any other way to attack it. I get it really bad at Dover as well. The entrance and free roll or braking (depending on the track) are fine, but as soon as I get back on the throttle the rear comes around. Any thoughts guys? Lou B.
Questio 17 Nov 1997#382903
Check your front/rear weight distribution, also try stiffening the front end. Works for my driving style.
Joe Cartell 17 Nov 1997#382904
There are many ways to fix that problem, but the fix may be a bandaid for a setting thats way out. I would try softening the rear package first, but if that hurts your turn in, try stiffening the l/ f. Try adding tire press to the left front. You are trying to keep the right rear planted, dont make it stiffer.
Quoted text (15 lines)>OK, all you set up guru's, let's talk about approaching a problem I'm >getting more and more lately....When I get back on the gas comin out of >a turn I get loose (Michigan and Atlanta, let's say...). I think it's >the LR breaking loose and the RR driving the nose down to the apron. >Generally I attack it by softening the LR shock or making the RR a >little stiffer. But it doesn't seem to be terribly effective, and at a >point it starts screwing up the rest of the setup. I'm wondering if >there's any other way to attack it. > I get it really bad at Dover as well. The entrance and free roll or >braking (depending on the track) are fine, but as soon as I get back on >the throttle the rear comes around. >Any thoughts guys? >Lou B.
Tom Hansen 18 Nov 1997#383023
Softening the right rear in comparison to the left rear may improve the problem a bit. Do not stiffen the right rear - this will make things worse. If it helps - then you are mis-diagnosing the problem. It is possible that you are compensating for a car that is too heavy in the rear or two soft in the front end. Cross weight may also factor in and should be considered in your diagnosis. Most important of all, make small changes to one component at a time and drive 10 or more laps until the tires warm up. Also make sure you start with a full fuel load each time you enter the track (this does not automatically reset). As the fuel burns off and put on new tires you will be tempted to add more rear weight to get the car to turn better. You will also tend to get faster and might falsly think you are improving the chassis with the faster lap times. Good luck and have fun. /TomH ps. the AI are Dover is very fast and difficult to keep pace with during a practive session, particularly if you use the modified Dover AI from the Pits.
Im not the best N2 driver in the world, but may I make a suggestion? try softening both the right side shocks the same, say 35 to start with this works wonders for me when you know the track well, you can stiffen them again for more speed if you desire
Crashx4 18 Nov 1997#383025
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 00:09:22 -0500 Organization: BSPN X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: computone1-ppp25.mdc.net Lines: 16 Path: lobby01.news.aol.com!newstf02.news.aol.com!portc02.blue.aol.com!pitt.edu! dsinc!news.voicenet.com!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!cpk-news-hu b1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!192.48.96.123 !in1.uu.net!news.netway.com!computone1-ppp25.mdc.net Lou: Heres what Jan Kohls N2 Setup Guide states for : Loose Exiting The Corner: 1. lower LF tire press' 2. soften LF shock 3. raise LR tire press' 4. stiff' LR shock The Guide is located at "The Pits" Steve' Steve
GBarn 19 Nov 1997#383196
Whats your rear spoiler setting you may also want to raise it just a hair helps get you through the corners better although you'll experience a little loss in straightaway speed. If you've got em covered down the straightaway this will be only a small sacrafice. Its a quick effective fix that you can do during a race without a lot of testing. if you do have time to test I would recommend what has been said already I would concentrate on getting a good suspension setup.
BSPN 19 Nov 1997#383197
I'd like to thank everyone for their help. The response, both here in the group and via e-mail was great, and I have a lot different ideas to work with. Thanks for taking the time everybody. As usual our sports "community" is always ready to help! Thanks Lou B.
Quoted text (15 lines)> OK, all you set up guru's, let's talk about approaching a problem I'm > getting more and more lately....When I get back on the gas comin out of > a turn I get loose (Michigan and Atlanta, let's say...). I think it's > the LR breaking loose and the RR driving the nose down to the apron. > Generally I attack it by softening the LR shock or making the RR a > little stiffer. But it doesn't seem to be terribly effective, and at a > point it starts screwing up the rest of the setup. I'm wondering if > there's any other way to attack it. > I get it really bad at Dover as well. The entrance and free roll or > braking (depending on the track) are fine, but as soon as I get back on > the throttle the rear comes around. > Any thoughts guys? > Lou B.

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