Bare-Bones GPL65 Mod ??

Hi, I would like to try the 65 mod for GPL, but there doesn't appear to be an option to download the 65 mod alone, without Gem or Igor. Is there a way of running/downloading/installing the 65 mod without having to download and/or install Igor and Gem on the computer ? I don't want Gem or Igor, i just want the 65 mod files, so as i can basically dump them into a new GPl install i made up for the 65 mod. Thanks in advance for any info... Cheers, Ron

Ron Ayton <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:01c4348a$a8c301e0$375b8b90@ronayton...

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> Hi, > > I would like to try the 65 mod for GPL, but there doesn't appear to be an > option to download the 65 mod alone, without Gem or Igor. > Is there a way of running/downloading/installing the 65 mod without having > to download and/or install Igor and Gem on the computer ? > I don't want Gem or Igor, i just want the 65 mod files, so as i can > basically dump them into a new GPl install i made up for the 65 mod. > Thanks in advance for any info... > > Cheers, > Ron

Ron, here http://fp.gplegends.plus.com/Index65.htm you can download the cars themselves, but to get the exe changes, iirc, you need to run gem at least once. You can then make a 65 shortcut, but you need to run gem at least once. This sound right anyone ?

"JP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:g9Wmc.38$[email hidden]... > > Ron Ayton <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:01c4348a$a8c301e0$375b8b90@ronayton... > > Hi, > > > > I would like to try the 65 mod for GPL, but there doesn't appear tobe an > > option to download the 65 mod alone, without Gem or Igor. > > Is there a way of running/downloading/installing the 65 mod withouthaving

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> > to download and/or install Igor and Gem on the computer ? > > I don't want Gem or Igor, i just want the 65 mod files, so as i can > > basically dump them into a new GPl install i made up for the 65 mod. > > Thanks in advance for any info... > > > > Cheers, > > Ron > > > Ron, here http://fp.gplegends.plus.com/Index65.htm you can download

the > cars themselves, but to get the exe changes, iirc, you need to run gemat > least once. > You can then make a 65 shortcut, but you need to run gem at leastonce. > > This sound right anyone ? Yes that's it exactly. I'm not sure if you can install gem without installing igor, but just because it's installed doesn't mean you have to use it ;-) igor isn't /essential/ to the 65 mod, but gem is. Malc.

Malc wrote:

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> iirc, you need to run gem at least once. >> You can then make a 65 shortcut, but you need to run gem at least > once. > >> This sound right anyone ? > > Yes that's it exactly. > igor isn't /essential/ to the 65 mod, but gem is.

To install, yep. After that you can just run gpl or gpl65 without using Gem. But if you run offline and switch tracks, you'd need to start gpl thru gem to make sure the AI is adapted to 65 levels (and switched back when you quit). Doesn't seem to be a problem when you just stay on the same track though - I've run several races, always at Zandy, without using Gem and the AI runs just the same. Regards, Rudy -------------------- GPLRank: -22

Ruud Dingemans <[email hidden]> wrote in article <c7ja2v$gaf$[email hidden]>...

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> Malc wrote: > > iirc, you need to run gem at least once. > >> You can then make a 65 shortcut, but you need to run gem at least > > once. > > > >> This sound right anyone ? > > > > Yes that's it exactly. > > igor isn't /essential/ to the 65 mod, but gem is. > > > To install, yep. After that you can just run gpl or gpl65 without using > Gem. > > But if you run offline and switch tracks, you'd need to start gpl thru > gem to make sure the AI is adapted to 65 levels (and switched back when > you quit). > > Doesn't seem to be a problem when you just stay on the same track though > - I've run several races, always at Zandy, without using Gem and the AI > runs just the same. > > > Regards, Rudy > -------------------- > GPLRank: -22 >

Ok, thanks for the input guys... I was sorta hoping i could just use a stand-alone installation for GPL65, with the '65 enabled physics, graphics and ai drivers etc. I'll do some experimenting and see what i can come up with, as i have no intentions of using Gem or Igor.. :) If it means i can't run the '65 mod without having to use Gem to reset the ai etc, then i'll just give it a miss. Like i said, i'll have a play with the dl files and see if i can unravel the '65 specifics from Igor and Gem. Thanks again. Cheers, Ron

Ron Ayton wrote:

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>>To install, yep. After that you can just run gpl or gpl65 without using >>Gem. >>- I've run several races, always at Zandy, without using Gem and the AI >>runs just the same. > Ok, thanks for the input guys... > I was sorta hoping i could just use a stand-alone installation for GPL65, > with the '65 enabled physics, graphics and ai drivers etc.

Well you CAN, sort of. GEM is an installer though, it does need to install some files and take the gpl.exe to put out a modified 65gpl.exe, but it leaves the original GPL intact. The Mod team was quite determined about that (they didn't want to muck up their own GPL 67 installs either). So it installs GPL65 "alongside" the original GPL, only takes/modifieds the files it needs, and puts 'em back into the original state once you quit 65. And like I said, you can just click 65gpl.exe and run as usual, only in 65, without using Gem - as long as you stay on the same track. I had the same reservations as you; but apart from a problem because my gpl.exe was set to read-ony, haven't had any real problems and the mod does work for nearly all users. > Like i said, i'll have a play with the dl files and see if i can unravel > the '65 specifics from Igor and Gem. I don't think you'll be able to do that, since the data is bound to be buried in several .exes and a lot of different ini-files. But if you're really hesitant, you could always just copy your GPL folder to another partition (FAT or non-indexed ;) and tell GEM to install to that folder. It'll leave your original GPL alone and the only thing you'll have lost is some drive space. But it's almost guaranteed you'll gain a lot of fun driving those shiny new 65's, especially if you liked the F2/F3 classes so far :) Regards, Rudy -------------------- GPLRank: -22

I am also under the impression that Igor is needed to see '65 servers online. Vroc will not show them. Or perhaps that is part of the RA's question, whether you can start a normal Vroc session with just a modified gpl.exe and graphics. rms

"rms" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5Hsnc.597$[email hidden]... > I am also under the impression that Igor is needed to see '65 servers > online. Vroc will not show them. Or perhaps that is part of the RA's > question, whether you can start a normal Vroc session with just amodified > gpl.exe and graphics. iGOR & VROC have two separate racelists. You can host & race '65 on either, but only iGOR can restrict a race to '65 or '67 (or anything else). Malc.

"rms" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5Hsnc.597$[email hidden]... > I am also under the impression that Igor is needed to see '65 servers > online. Vroc will not show them. Or perhaps that is part of the RA's > question, whether you can start a normal Vroc session with just amodified > gpl.exe and graphics. iGOR & VROC have two separate racelists. You can host & race '65 on either, but only iGOR can restrict a race to '65 or '67 (or anything else). Malc.

Ron Ayton wrote:

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> > Ok, thanks for the input guys... > I was sorta hoping i could just use a stand-alone installation for GPL65, > with the '65 enabled physics, graphics and ai drivers etc. > I'll do some experimenting and see what i can come up with, as i have no > intentions of using Gem or Igor.. :) > If it means i can't run the '65 mod without having to use Gem to reset the > ai etc, then i'll just give it a miss. > Like i said, i'll have a play with the dl files and see if i can unravel > the '65 specifics from Igor and Gem. > Thanks again. > > Cheers, > Ron > >

If you don't was to mess up your 67 install, for super safety, just duplicate your GPL folder, call it GPL65, run the gem installer and point it at the new GPl folder, let it make all the exes and thats it. Thereafter you just double click gplc65.exe to run the 65mod.