Gateway 2000 Computers

My PII Dell 266 is a smoking system. I'm sure Gateway is pretty comparable . I have my Screamin 3D card installed with a Zoom 56K Flex modem and everythings working perfect. Now if the 56k USR x2 modem that came with the system worked with my ISPs system I'd be even happier.... Bill

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>I am looking at buying a new system in the next week or so, and I was >wonders what people thought of Gateway Computers? I would like to hear >from anyone that has gotten a PII 266 or higher. >How compatable are they when you add video cards, etc. How many open >slots to they have? Are the SCSI or EIDE? >Thanks

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I have had a Gateway P2-266 for several months now and have had ZERO problems. Running N2 was one of my first actions and it was nearly flawless! What a change from the 486-66 I had been running. Max out the graphics and let 'er fly!! No problems with add-ins either. I have four open slots. Ross Cavitt

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>I am looking at buying a new system in the next week or so, and I was >wonders what people thought of Gateway Computers? I would like to hear >from anyone that has gotten a PII 266 or higher. >How compatable are they when you add video cards, etc. How many open >slots to they have? Are the SCSI or EIDE? >Thanks

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> I am looking at buying a new system in the next week or so, and I was > wonders what people thought of Gateway Computers? I would like to hear > from anyone that has gotten a PII 266 or higher. > How compatable are they when you add video cards, etc. How many open > slots to they have? Are the SCSI or EIDE? > Thanks

Tom, Gateway's are a super system for the average Joe, that said, stay away from them. They use proprietary componants and industry standard parts cannot always be used. I tend to groan everytime I open one up for a client. If you are committed to mail order I would look and compare prices of Dell and Micron. All standard parts and a reputaion for building good machines. I built my own P2 but I would own either of their 266's in a heartbeat, no question. All the best, Mike Davis -- Michael S. Davis Creative Media-Works Computer/Audio/Video Convergance http://www.creativemedia-works.com "From Creative Minds spring Creative Solutions."

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> I am looking at buying a new system in the next week or so, and I was > wonders what people thought of Gateway Computers? I would like to hear > from anyone that has gotten a PII 266 or higher. > How compatable are they when you add video cards, etc. How many open > slots to they have? Are the SCSI or EIDE? > Thanks > I am looking at buying a new system in the next week or so, and I was > wonders what people thought of Gateway Computers? I would like to hear > from anyone that has gotten a PII 266 or higher. > How compatable are they when you add video cards, etc. How many open > slots to they have? Are the SCSI or EIDE? > Thanks

While I'm quite happy with MY gateway 2000, id recomend a Dell assuming the price diff. isnt that much... when I bought my system the price diff. between dell and gateway 2000 way SCARY! it truely made me scared... I havent checked the market at all recently but dont spend much extra on dell. While dells are a little better than Gateways, there not THAT much better. Note: ask if u cant get no vid card and go out and buy a Pure3D the day b4 it comes... -- """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

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> , that said, stay away > from them. They use proprietary componants and industry standard parts > cannot always be used. I tend to groan everytime I open one up for a > client. If you are committed to mail order I would look and compare > prices of Dell and Micron. All standard parts and a reputaion for > building good machines. I built my own P2 but I would own either of > their 266's in a heartbeat, no question. > All the best, Mike Davis > --

I'm interested to hear that Dell parts are industry-standard now. They certainly weren't 2 yrs ago when I bought my Dell 133 - the stupid motherboard is proprietary and cant be replaced. -- Ed Krauss

We have a gateway 2000 that we bought in 1994, and is the one we use today..We are getitng a new one, but thisa computer has never crashed on its own..always hrelp from me.. I recomend before buying one, going to www.gateway.com and I forgot how, but there is a way to take a basic model, put on something, or take of something, then it computes your price, so basicvally, you get to build a computer. Fun, and it helps! -- ************************************************************************ Like NASCAR? Want to download or listen to some hot midi files? Want to visit the Link of the day?? Think your page deserves to be the link of the day?? Want to keep up on my race team?? Stop by Koval Racing! http://homepage.dave-world.net/~kovalj LIFE IS SHORT..RACE HARD! ************************************************************************

Where the heck did he get the idea that Gateway 2000 uses proprietary components?? I've had 4 personal systems and over 20 company computers, all from Gateway 2000, and they all worked fine and NO PROPRIETARY components... unless, he's referring to PCI being proprietary? or maybe ISA? howabout EISA? or SCSI? or IDE? or EIDE? or Super VGA? oh, maybe he means RS232 is proprietary...? or PS2? Ralph Medbourn

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> > , that said, stay away > > from them. They use proprietary componants and industry standard parts > > cannot always be used. I tend to groan everytime I open one up for a > > client. If you are committed to mail order I would look and compare > > prices of Dell and Micron. All standard parts and a reputaion for > > building good machines. I built my own P2 but I would own either of > > their 266's in a heartbeat, no question. > > All the best, Mike Davis > > -- > I'm interested to hear that Dell parts are industry-standard now. They certainly > weren't 2 yrs ago when I bought my Dell 133 - the stupid motherboard is > proprietary and cant be replaced. > -- > Ed Krauss

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yada yada yada... Have you checked your Bio-Rhythms? Because you are having some seriously bad luck. I just bought a Gateway G6-300, my third Gateway system in seven years. I have never had a SINGLE problem. My company also uses Gateways. We probably have several hundred in house and I have heard of very few problems. So, in so many words, I guess I'm saying its fine to BUY GATEWAY. Doug

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> > hmmm, > > I just recently bought a 266 with the AGP and everything. Here's the > > problems I've had so far (In less than a month) > > 1. Sent wrong computer > > 2. Sent Replacement, UPS wanted to get back old computer and another COD > > 3. Correct PC had a bad video card according to tech rep > > 4. Sent replacement videio card, wrong one > > 5. Sent correct one, still didn't work, said, oh maybe those beeps mean > > bad motherboard > > 6. Sent another Computer it worked so far > > 7. Modem failed > > 8. upon searching for problem of modem, found had bad partition > > 9. Had to format drive and reinstall all software and take modem from > > computer with bad motherboard (they have not picked it up yet) and put > > it into new one. > There have been bad computers in the past. Heck, once had a customer > call saying all his cards were in the case, not hooked up and still in > their static-pretection packs. but the number of your problems? With > more then one computer? Bad night on the assembly line or they just dont > like you. > Cant say for the above, becuase things have happened in the past at > gateway and we've had to deal with them. But for your other points?? > > 10. Customer Service sent wrong return labels, (expected me to pay > > shipping for their mistake) > Only time i have ever seen a customer pay to send anything back is when > they perm the system out of the original 30 days. And that is rare. > Gateway allways falls to the beck and call of the customer. and by perm > the system I mean send it back because they dont want it. > > 11. Uh, not sure yet taking it one week at a time. > > So in my humble opinion: DON'T BUY GATEWAY, > > oh yeah, you have to set up driver for soundcard to work in DOS > > yourself. They never do that for some reason. > Set your driver to work in dos yourself? Gateway never does this? How > many have you bought? How would you kow they never do this? It is set > in the software config portion of the assembly line and rechecked at the > QC point. Do computers slip by? Yes, unfortunately they do. But Any > more then from the other companies? I doubt it. > As with all computer companies you are going to run into bad computers > that make it out of the factory. > Matt

Always falls to the beck and call of the customer? Well it appears in this post all your doing is trying to prove him wrong, rather than saying "Sorry sir - Im terribly sorry this has befallen you, hopefully this can be worked out, and if you have anymore problems please feel free to write/call to "etc"." You guys need to learn how to Shmooooooze customers more. :)

Though I have been buying Gateways for my University and have been quite pleased with them, I recently bought four ***max machines and like them better. They are cheaper and use excellent parts. What's more, when I didn't like the resolution on one of the monitors, they airshiped me a new one, and paid to ship the old one back. I bought four and have been very pleased. I like the Gateway Vivitron monitors (trinitron) better for games though, especially their 21". By the way, I have not found proprietary parts on the Gateways we have owned (about 15)

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> > I am looking at buying a new system in the next week or so, and I was > > wonders what people thought of Gateway Computers? I would like to hear > > from anyone that has gotten a PII 266 or higher. > > How compatable are they when you add video cards, etc. How many open > > slots to they have? Are the SCSI or EIDE? > > Thanks > Tom, > Gateway's are a super system for the average Joe, that said, stay away > from them. They use proprietary componants and industry standard parts > cannot always be used. I tend to groan everytime I open one up for a > client. If you are committed to mail order I would look and compare > prices of Dell and Micron. All standard parts and a reputaion for > building good machines. I built my own P2 but I would own either of > their 266's in a heartbeat, no question. > All the best, Mike Davis > -- > Michael S. Davis > Creative Media-Works > Computer/Audio/Video Convergance > http://www.creativemedia-works.com > "From Creative Minds spring Creative Solutions."

-- **************************************** Marc Silling Akron, Ohio

hmmm.that's really bizzare. I bought the same system as you and mine works great, except for a few minor problems (or rather options that I prefer) that i changed in about five minutes worth of time. -E

Buy a Dell. It was a much happier experience for me.

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>Mistakes are always made, we are all human. Also, despite all of the >burn-in, there is always infant mortality. Of course, you seem to >have gotten more than your share here. Thats probably just bad luck. >Be thankful that Gateway is bending over backwards trying to help. >I have seen mailorder firms that flatly deny there is a problem, >and would not have shipped a machine to you until they had the >original in their hands. You would still be waiting for step 2. >> hmmm, >> I just recently bought a 266 with the AGP and everything. Here's the >> problems I've had so far (In less than a month) >> 1. Sent wrong computer >> 2. Sent Replacement, UPS wanted to get back old computer and another COD >> 3. Correct PC had a bad video card according to tech rep >> 4. Sent replacement videio card, wrong one >> 5. Sent correct one, still didn't work, said, oh maybe those beeps mean >> bad motherboard >> 6. Sent another Computer it worked so far >> 7. Modem failed >> 8. upon searching for problem of modem, found had bad partition >> 9. Had to format drive and reinstall all software and take modem from >> computer with bad motherboard (they have not picked it up yet) and put >> it into new one. >> 10. Customer Service sent wrong return labels, (expected me to pay >> shipping for their mistake) >> 11. Uh, not sure yet taking it one week at a time. >> So in my humble opinion: DON'T BUY GATEWAY, >> oh yeah, you have to set up driver for soundcard to work in DOS >> yourself. They never do that for some reason. >> Paul