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N2 & lapped car pitting

3 posts by 3 people · 09 Oct 1997 - 11 Oct 1997

Bart 09 Oct 1997#379300
In real-life NASCAR the lapped cars are not allowed to pit on the first pass under caution. However, in N2 this apparently only applies to the AI cars and not to the player because I have always been able to pit on the first pass. I assume that this was done because it might be too confusing for some novice players who don't understand the rules. Obviously, this gives the player an unfair advantage. Of course, I could implement my own "honor system" and only pit on the second pass when I have been lapped. But I would like to know how this will affect the NRO which will have no AI cars. I've never raced on Hawaii so this may be something that has been dealt with before. Could someone enlighten me on this? Bart
Jim Sokolo 10 Oct 1997#379353
Quoted text (10 lines)> In real-life NASCAR the lapped cars are not allowed to pit on the first pass > under caution. However, in N2 this apparently only applies to the AI cars and > not to the player because I have always been able to pit on the first pass. I > assume that this was done because it might be too confusing for some novice > players who don't understand the rules. Obviously, this gives the player an > unfair advantage. Of course, I could implement my own "honor system" and only > pit on the second pass when I have been lapped. But I would like to know how > this will affect the NRO which will have no AI cars. I've never raced on Hawaii > so this may be something that has been dealt with before. Could someone > enlighten me on this?
Couple comments: 1. Real life gets away with this because lapped cars are not interspersed with lead lap cars at the restart (they're in their own lines, so it just makes pit road less insane to have them pit separately) 2. The Papy sim doesn't enforce this on the player for who knows exactly why, but it's probably a combination of what you said, and the realization that it's a pretty big penalty for lap cars to have to wait, and then have to restart single file. 3. My WAG is that NROS will not enforce this rule, though if they do enforce double file restarts, they might as well implement this rule, unless the concern is adding another lap of yellow flag pacing. (a valid concern, IMO) ---Jim
Jerry Durh 11 Oct 1997#379411
Quoted text (26 lines)>> In real-life NASCAR the lapped cars are not allowed to pit on the first pass >> under caution. However, in N2 this apparently only applies to the AI cars and >> not to the player because I have always been able to pit on the first pass. I >> assume that this was done because it might be too confusing for some novice >> players who don't understand the rules. Obviously, this gives the player an >> unfair advantage. Of course, I could implement my own "honor system" and only >> pit on the second pass when I have been lapped. But I would like to know how >> this will affect the NRO which will have no AI cars. I've never raced on Hawaii >> so this may be something that has been dealt with before. Could someone >> enlighten me on this? >Couple comments: >1. Real life gets away with this because lapped cars are not >interspersed with lead lap cars at the restart (they're in their own >lines, so it just makes pit road less insane to have them pit >separately) >2. The Papy sim doesn't enforce this on the player for who knows exactly >why, but it's probably a combination of what you said, and the >realization that it's a pretty big penalty for lap cars to have to wait, >and then have to restart single file. >3. My WAG is that NROS will not enforce this rule, though if they do >enforce double file restarts, they might as well implement this rule, >unless the concern is adding another lap of yellow flag pacing. (a valid >concern, IMO) >---Jim
Pappy doesn't even enforce this on the some cars that are down a lap and any car that is down more than a lap always pit on the first pass.

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