3dfx patch for GPII

Has anyone heard of such a thing??? -- Jason Ingram

Yeah, Geoff Crammond popped by this group a couple of months ago and took a few votes on whether it was worthwhile or not. Most people told him that a 3dFX patch for GP2 would be pretty useless, as we had all moved on from GP2 to some real sims like Need for Speed II. On hearing that he cancelled the patch and also some nonsense called GP3 that he was working on, and began coding Revs2 for the Commodore 63 emulator. No, we've never heard of such a thing ;) Cheers! John

Geoff Crammond popped by this group a couple of months ago and Blimey that touched a nerve John ?!!!. Anyway how about a track editor. Surely there must be a way of writing one, so that you can design your own tracks (isn't a track pack available soon, they must have created it some how ?). Oh well, I hope UBI softs F1 is up to scratch, then there won't be a need for a 3DFX patch for GP2 or indeed GP3 !! Mat

> Has anyone heard of such a thing??? > -- > Jason Ingram I sure wanna one

> Geoff Crammond popped by this group a couple of months ago and > >took a few votes on whether it was worthwhile or not. Most people told > >him that a 3dFX patch for GP2 would be pretty useless, as we had all Right. Were these people GP2/3DFX owners? I think this is total bullshit. These is no way he could have read messages here and not know that 3D support is needed. In fact I figure the original message was a troll. Agreed!!! -- Header address intentionaly scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

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>> Geoff Crammond popped by this group a couple of months ago and >> >took a few votes on whether it was worthwhile or not. Most people told >> >him that a 3dFX patch for GP2 would be pretty useless, as we had all >Right. Were these people GP2/3DFX owners? I think this is total bullshit. >These is no way he could have read messages here and not know that >3D support is needed. In fact I figure the original message was a troll.

Looks like John's sense of humour has got the better of some people. -- Dave Bowers

On Sun, 21 Sep 1997 11:26:33 +0100, Dave Bowers

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>>> Geoff Crammond popped by this group a couple of months ago and >>> >took a few votes on whether it was worthwhile or not. Most people told >>> >him that a 3dFX patch for GP2 would be pretty useless, as we had all >>Right. Were these people GP2/3DFX owners? I think this is total bullshit. >>These is no way he could have read messages here and not know that >>3D support is needed. In fact I figure the original message was a troll. >Looks like John's sense of humour has got the better of some people. >-- >Dave Bowers

So...there will be a 3dfx patch??

writes Nope, but I reckon 3Dfx will be in GP3, thanks to a little bird... -- Dave Bowers

On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 19:36:11 +0100, Dave Bowers >> So...there will be a 3dfx patch?? >Nope, but I reckon 3Dfx will be in GP3, thanks to a little bird... Hum, can't you tell us more about what that little bird said to you? There really is a GP3 coming? Thanks for info. Eric

GP3 had better support the 3dfx chip...i wouldn't buy the game otherwise...in fact now i've got a 3dfx card i refuse to buy any 3d games that don't support it...it's soooo good.. > writes > > So...there will be a 3dfx patch?? > Nope, but I reckon 3Dfx will be in GP3, thanks to a little bird... > -- > Dave Bowers

> GP3 had better support the 3dfx chip...i wouldn't buy the game > otherwise...in fact now i've got a 3dfx card i refuse to buy any 3d games > that don't support it...it's soooo good.. I agree - I also refuse to buy games anymore that don't support 3dfx ... Software mfg's, take note! -- FIN. PROTECTION DURING RETIREMENT: [link lost in import] KEYWORDS: AARP *** daycare living facility Allianz Alzheimer's Disease American Travellers Insurance Company assisted benefits care CNA cognitive impairment Commissioners conditions custodial disability elder estate planning eldercare financial grandparents HCFA health care HIAA home hospital indemnity Insurance Long Term Care LTC Medicaid medical underwriting Medicare NAIC nonforfeiture nurse nursing parents policy retirement senior citizens services skilled care Social spousal benefit support pre-existing reimbur***t respiratory respite restoration retire

At this time MicroProse have no plans to create any GP2 patches/expansions/addon's etc that would allow support for the 3dfx card or any other "wish-list" feature. At this time neither Geoff Crammond or MicroProse are planning to publish any sequel to this game, be it called GP3 or anything else. If we decide to publish any new titles we will let everyone know by placing a press release on our WWW site. Regards, Mark Rich/MicroProse-Europe

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> On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 19:36:11 +0100, Dave Bowers > >> So...there will be a 3dfx patch?? > >Nope, but I reckon 3Dfx will be in GP3, thanks to a little bird... > Hum, can't you tell us more about what that little bird said to you? > There really is a GP3 coming? Thanks for info. > Eric

Ahhhhh, razor-sharp business acumen rears its ugly head once again. On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 03:07:57 -0400, "Mark J Rich"

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>At this time MicroProse have no plans to create any GP2 >patches/expansions/addon's etc that would allow support for the 3dfx card >or any other "wish-list" feature. At this time neither Geoff Crammond or >MicroProse are planning to publish any sequel to this game, be it called >GP3 or anything else. If we decide to publish any new titles we will let >everyone know by placing a press release on our WWW site. >Regards, >Mark Rich/MicroProse-Europe >> On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 19:36:11 +0100, Dave Bowers >> >> So...there will be a 3dfx patch?? >> >Nope, but I reckon 3Dfx will be in GP3, thanks to a little bird... >> Hum, can't you tell us more about what that little bird said to you? >> There really is a GP3 coming? Thanks for info. >> Eric

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> At this time MicroProse have no plans to create any GP2 > patches/expansions/addon's etc that would allow support for the 3dfx card > or any other "wish-list" feature. At this time neither Geoff Crammond or > MicroProse are planning to publish any sequel to this game, be it called > GP3 or anything else. If we decide to publish any new titles we will let > everyone know by placing a press release on our WWW site. > Regards, > Mark Rich/MicroProse-Europe

Dear Mr. Rich, I am sorry but I feel it necessary to offer my comments about your software company. Microrprose is without a doubt about the worst company in the industry when it comes to supporting/updating a product after it is released. It is obvious that your marketers care about one thing - getting the consumers dollar - and not about creating a quality product. If your marketers woke up and took their head out of their arse and took a lesson from Microsoft, you would be doing all of your customers a big favor. Why is the Microsoft flight simulator series one of the best selling in history? Because it is the best simulator? Not usually ... but consumers can count on a "bigger" and "better" version next year with incremental improvements. Who is Microsoft? Only the most successful company in the industry ... Who is Microprose? Obviously NOT Microsoft. Well the good news is that Microsoft has discovered the popularity of racing simulators -- and CART Precision racing will take the same path as Flight Simulator -- upgrade and improvement. As for Microprose -- I suspect that I have purchased my *last* Microprose produced or developed product. Am I stupid enough to think that this message will make it's way to someone meaningful at your company -- nahh -- but at least I feel better writing it. Doug Burg -- FIN. PROTECTION DURING RETIREMENT: [link lost in import] KEYWORDS: AARP *** daycare living facility Allianz Alzheimer's Disease American Travellers Insurance Company assisted benefits care CNA cognitive impairment Commissioners conditions custodial disability elder estate planning eldercare financial grandparents HCFA health care HIAA home hospital indemnity Insurance Long Term Care LTC Medicaid medical underwriting Medicare NAIC nonforfeiture nurse nursing parents policy retirement senior citizens services skilled care Social spousal benefit support pre-existing reimbur***t respiratory respite restoration retire

> OK, so Microprose won't do a 3dfx patch. I'm sure there are others out > there capable of doing it, so please someone else do one. I'd pay for > it, and I'm sure others would. OK, what makes you think that if Crammond/MPRS won't do it (presumably because they judge that it wouldn't be profitable, even given that they have the source code and experience in the graphics engine of the product) that a third party, without access to the source will be able to do it profitably? :-) I agree that this is the only tactic that works in the long run, but in this case, it doesn't make techincal sense... ---Jim

>OK, so Microprose won't do a 3dfx patch. I'm sure there are others out >there capable of doing it, so please someone else do one. I'd pay for >it, and I'm sure others would. >Hit them where it hurts...in the wallet! I'd love to see a 3D patch too. It'd make a great game a standout classic. BUT.... If I understand it correctly, you need the source code to do a 3D patch. That means either Jeff Crammonds', Microproses', or both of their permission, depending on how the rights to the product are arranged. --