3do,mip viewer for nascar 2 files

looking for a program or viewer for nascar 2 files thanks

Me also! I know there are people with these utilities out there who will not share them..whats the big deal??? They are ONLY utilities...they are worthless if you dont know how to use them..guess I wont share my cars or anything from now on..these guys want to "corner" the Nascar2 addon market or something...more concerned with their personal sites and awards than helping expand the addons for this great game.. the more guys working on editing/etc the faster and BETTER we can make new tracks and cars for EVERYONE..but I guess you guys love all the credit...I just want to make my personal game more enjoyable thats all....thanks alot!!!! Chuck

I would also like the utility. Then maybe I can contribute something for a change. I've used so many cars and utilities, I would like to give something back. If I had the utility, then I could create my own tracks and share them with everyone. Just my two cents worth. Thanks for listening. Kelvin www.nashville.com/~james.hayes/kel.htm

Hi Chuck, This has been gone over countless times (and no-doubt countless more<g>)...Hopefully, this will shed some light to both your question(s) here, as well as the e-mail you sent. While I aggree the files should be made "public", there are still problems with copyright infringement. Having these utilities available would be opening a Pandora's box of problems, and would most likely come under fire by both the software manufacturers, as well as track owners, etc. IMHO, most of the people here are responsible enough not to tread into forbidden territory, however there are those that don't give a rat's-ass about what happens down the road. For this reason, some of those who have the utilities you mention hang-on to them to keep them from the bozo's, rather than merely exclude you from joining in on the fun. You're obviously not the bad guy, but because someone screws with copyrights, they're essentially screwing you too. Don't blame the sites that have the tools and use them responsibly; instead blame those who throw caution to the wind, only to ruin it for for the rest of us. These are the sites that while not directly responsible for Daytona, Indy, et al not being in the various sims, are contributors to the problem at hand. True, there are probably those that have these tools and use them for their own gain, but most sites I know of use these to enhance your enjoyment...However, until everyone were to abide by a more honorable code of conduct, the likelyhood of these tools showing up for mass-download is unlikely. Keep the Faith, Marc J. Nelson Sim Racing Online / Sim Racing News / The Sim Project http://members.aol.com/simracing

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>Me also! I know there are people with these utilities out there who will >not share them..whats the big deal??? They are ONLY utilities...they are >worthless if you dont know how to use them..guess I wont share my cars or >anything from now on..these guys want to "corner" the Nascar2 addon market >or something...more concerned with their personal sites and awards than >helping expand the addons for this great game.. the more guys working on >editing/etc the faster and BETTER we can make new tracks and cars for >EVERYONE..but I guess you guys love all the credit...I just want to make my >personal game more enjoyable thats all....thanks alot!!!! Chuck

<These are the sites that while not directly <responsible for Daytona, Indy, et al not being in the various sims, <are contributors to the problem at hand. Money is the only reason these sims are not in the game. No if and's or buts. Papyrus didn't have enough to spend to get the rights to these tracks.

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> <These are the sites that while not directly > <responsible for Daytona, Indy, et al not being in the various sims, > <are contributors to the problem at hand. > Money is the only reason these sims are not in the game. No if and's or > buts. Papyrus didn't have enough to spend to get the rights to these > tracks.

That's funny; I didn't realize you had negotiated on Papyrus' behalf for those tracks. I can agree that money was the primary reason ISC chose to go with Sega (for probably 2 orders of magnitude more money than Papy could pay). However, IMS is an entirely different story; as I understand, it wasn't so much money, as it was ridiculous terms IMS was demanding that scuttled the Indy deal. (Vintage Tony George really...) "Announcing the Brickyard 400; also included a couple other lesser tracks, and a NASCAR simulator..." :-) At this rate, how long until the May IRL event is the "Minute of May"? They've already punted on the "Month of"... ---Jim

Well I was 50% right Jim, and I am not surprised by the IMS situation. I still don't believe hacking the tracks had anything to do with why they are not available.

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> > <These are the sites that while not directly > > <responsible for Daytona, Indy, et al not being in the various sims, > > <are contributors to the problem at hand. > > Money is the only reason these sims are not in the game. No if and's or > > buts. Papyrus didn't have enough to spend to get the rights to these > > tracks. > That's funny; I didn't realize you had negotiated on Papyrus' behalf for > those tracks. I can agree that money was the primary reason ISC chose to > go with Sega (for probably 2 orders of magnitude more money than Papy > could pay). > However, IMS is an entirely different story; as I understand, it wasn't > so much money, as it was ridiculous terms IMS was demanding that > scuttled the Indy deal. (Vintage Tony George really...) > "Announcing the Brickyard 400; also included a couple other lesser > tracks, and a NASCAR simulator..." :-) > At this rate, how long until the May IRL event is the "Minute of May"? > They've already punted on the "Month of"... > ---Jim

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> Me also! I know there are people with these utilities out there who will > not share them..whats the big deal??? They are ONLY utilities...they are > worthless if you dont know how to use them..guess I wont share my cars or > anything from now on..these guys want to "corner" the Nascar2 addon market > or something...more concerned with their personal sites and awards than > helping expand the addons for this great game.. the more guys working on > editing/etc the faster and BETTER we can make new tracks and cars for > EVERYONE..but I guess you guys love all the credit...I just want to make my > personal game more enjoyable thats all....thanks alot!!!! Chuck

You think that Alex Santantonio and others have a utility to do this??? They do, it's called HEX Editing and you have to learn how to do it, as well as many other things. People just can't make a utility like this. Hell, most people haven't even figured out everything yet. If you want to edit tracks learn it for yourself. -- PolePosition#3- IVGA #4882 I think you can figure out the SPAM filter. Visit my pages: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/4578/index.html "If you don't believe, you don't belong." -- Alan Kulwicki's Credo

Yes. Actually, some of the names are stp2bmp, pmp2bmp, mip2bmp, 3do23dv, and 3doedit. Hex...what's this hex? ;) True...I think all those *outside* Papyrus haven't figured everything out yet. ...but we're looking into it. ;) Lawyers...yeech!! =P