TPTCC Patch, Still only 4 gears???

It seems pretty lame driving these touring cars with the 4 speed from the stock cars.. The accellerations really sucks.. Is there any way to get more gears?? Like the 6-speeds that they are supposed to have?? Otherwise this is a great patch, it just would be alot more fun with a 6-speed ;> Brian

After getting blown off the main straight at Portland a time or two I really got working on good gearing for that track. I think the key to good accel is a very precisely selected 2nd gear and a very tall top gear. Six speeds would be very nice tho...however, since N2 is the base for that patch, I'd be suprised if they can tweek the gearbox anymore than that. And remember, these Touring cars "only" put out 300ponies compared to the 700-900hp the Winston Cup V-8's produce. Your accel will always blow compared to those. I loved the new photo of Peter Cunningham's Honda in the latest version. 1.3. Any chance of getting a screen with the #8 Dodge Stratus inluded in the next version?? Dave Henrie #99 in the Touring Cars Offline League

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>>It seems pretty lame driving these touring cars with the 4 speed from >>the stock cars.. The accellerations really sucks.. Is there any way >>to get more gears?? Like the 6-speeds that they are supposed to >>have?? Otherwise this is a great patch, it just would be alot more >>fun with a 6-speed ;> >>Brian > After getting blown off the main straight at Portland a time or two >I really got working on good gearing for that track. I think the key >to good accel is a very precisely selected 2nd gear and a very tall >top gear. Six speeds would be very nice tho...however, since N2 is >the base for that patch, I'd be suprised if they can tweek the gearbox >anymore than that. > And remember, these Touring cars "only" put out 300ponies compared >to the 700-900hp the Winston Cup V-8's produce. Your accel will >always blow compared to those. > I loved the new photo of Peter Cunningham's Honda in the latest >version. 1.3. Any chance of getting a screen with the #8 Dodge >Stratus inluded in the next version?? >Dave Henrie >#99 in the Touring Cars Offline League

Well to answer both your questions - no we won't have 6 gears in the sim. The first point about the TPTCC patch is that we have decided not to alter the EXE at all in the patch due to the problems of patching it and the fact there are several versions with the different patched - plus I suspect it would***Papyrus off. However, about the screens - yes, in version 2 we intend to change most of the screens to reflect the touring car nature of the game. That particular picture was included because of problems aligning the windsheilds with the new car shape. Cheers Jed

How much acceleration do you want? These are 300 hp sedans, not 700+hp open wheelers. Yes 6 gears would be interesting, with a higher workload for the driver every lap, but I can't imagine much more acceleation. As long as the patch is N2 based I imagine it will always be 4-speed.

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> Well to answer both your questions - no we won't have 6 gears in the > sim. > The first point about the TPTCC patch is that we have decided not to > alter the EXE at all in the patch due to the problems of patching it > and the fact there are several versions with the different patched - > plus I suspect it would***Papyrus off. > However, about the screens - yes, in version 2 we intend to change > most of the screens to reflect the touring car nature of the game. > That particular picture was included because of problems aligning the > windsheilds with the new car shape. > Cheers > Jed

Come on Jed, For what you are being paid to do this, you could easily.... No wait, you've already exceeded what you are getting paid for. BTW that is a collective "you" mykey

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>>>It seems pretty lame driving these touring cars with the 4 speed from >>>the stock cars.. The accellerations really sucks.. Is there any way >>>to get more gears?? Like the 6-speeds that they are supposed to >>>have?? Otherwise this is a great patch, it just would be alot more >>>fun with a 6-speed ;> >>>Brian >> After getting blown off the main straight at Portland a time or two >>I really got working on good gearing for that track. I think the key >>to good accel is a very precisely selected 2nd gear and a very tall >>top gear. Six speeds would be very nice tho...however, since N2 is >>the base for that patch, I'd be suprised if they can tweek the gearbox >>anymore than that. >> And remember, these Touring cars "only" put out 300ponies compared >>to the 700-900hp the Winston Cup V-8's produce. Your accel will >>always blow compared to those. >> I loved the new photo of Peter Cunningham's Honda in the latest >>version. 1.3. Any chance of getting a screen with the #8 Dodge >>Stratus inluded in the next version?? >>Dave Henrie >>#99 in the Touring Cars Offline League >Well to answer both your questions - no we won't have 6 gears in the >sim. >The first point about the TPTCC patch is that we have decided not to >alter the EXE at all in the patch due to the problems of patching it >and the fact there are several versions with the different patched - >plus I suspect it would***Papyrus off. >However, about the screens - yes, in version 2 we intend to change >most of the screens to reflect the touring car nature of the game. >That particular picture was included because of problems aligning the >windsheilds with the new car shape. >Cheers >Jed

Ok, thanks for the replies, I'm doing some tweaking with the gears right now.. If anyone's still read this thead, Is there a way to select a car other than the Sabb 900 to drive?? When I go to the driver information page I still get the chevy, ford, and pontiac emblems, but they all show the Sabb 900 as the car. Brian

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>It seems pretty lame driving these touring cars with the 4 speed from >the stock cars.. The accellerations really sucks.. Is there any way >to get more gears?? Like the 6-speeds that they are supposed to >have?? Otherwise this is a great patch, it just would be alot more >fun with a 6-speed ;> >Brian

gee we get this patch for free. What more do u expect. Also these Sedans come with a 2.5 liter 4 cylinder engine, not a V-8

Hmmm....Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that the 300hp (four speed) TBTCC cars appear to have the same amount of torque as their 700hp N2 cousins. I'm just making light of this for those that are complaining about the "lack" of acceleration that these cars appear to have. By the way, many thanks to the people responsible for the patch. Your efforts are appreciated.

Yes, I certainly have noticed no diference between the way the touring cars accelerate and handle when compared the the WC stock cars. Still the patch is fun, looks cool, and heck it's FREE! Brian

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>Hmmm....Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that the 300hp (four >speed) TBTCC cars appear to have the same amount of torque as their 700hp >N2 cousins. > I'm just making light of this for those that are complaining about the >"lack" of acceleration that these cars appear to have. > By the way, many thanks to the people responsible for the patch. Your >efforts are appreciated. >> How much acceleration do you want? These are 300 hp sedans, not 700+hp >> open wheelers. Yes 6 gears would be interesting, with a higher workload >> for the driver every lap, but I can't imagine much more acceleation. As >> long as the patch is N2 based I imagine it will always be 4-speed.

The braking distance is shorter with these touring car since they are lighter

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>Yes, I certainly have noticed no diference between the way the touring >cars accelerate and handle when compared the the WC stock cars. >Still the patch is fun, looks cool, and heck it's FREE! >Brian >>Hmmm....Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that the 300hp (four >>speed) TBTCC cars appear to have the same amount of torque as their 700hp >>N2 cousins. >> I'm just making light of this for those that are complaining about the >>"lack" of acceleration that these cars appear to have. >> By the way, many thanks to the people responsible for the patch. Your >>efforts are appreciated. >>> How much acceleration do you want? These are 300 hp sedans, not 700+hp >>> open wheelers. Yes 6 gears would be interesting, with a higher workload >>> for the driver every lap, but I can't imagine much more acceleation. As >>> long as the patch is N2 based I imagine it will always be 4-speed.

O I had noticed that at the finishing screens: The one where the disgusted mechanic walks away...(yeah I see that a lot!) the windshield seems popped out and sitting about a half a foot above where it should be.... Dave Henrie #99 The Pits Touring Car Championship