SODA Off Road Racing Demo Available!!!!

> The demo is available at www.avault.com and probably other *** sites. The > demo is 3D accelerated for Rendition Verite Cards ONLY and the download is > quite large (19.6 Mb). Will the full version of SODA only support Rendition? Chris

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>>> The demo is available at www.avault.com and probably other *** sites. The >>> demo is 3D accelerated for Rendition Verite Cards ONLY and the download is >>> quite large (19.6 Mb). >>Will the full version of SODA only support Rendition? >>Chris >It only says Rendition Ready OOTB on the site. >Yeah wasn't someone saying that Sierra wasn't using its software just >to promote its own cards? >N2 & ICR2 - I can accept, but now 3Dfx has to be the undisputed leader >in serious 3D card volume. It just makes no sense whatsoever.

Yup. That's one more Sega title (along with RB2) that I will NOT be buying. Morons - they'd rather make a 5% profit on hardware than a 95% profit on software. Joe

>>They will PAY for their corporate stupidity by MEGA-LOST-SALES. >>- >I doubt it. By the time SODA is released, the V2200 cards should be >available, and they will be a hot item this Christmas shopping season. >Besides, Nascar 2 was, and is still a huge seller, outpacing even Quake, >even though it supports only the Rendtion cards. But Nascar2 was released last year, before the 3dfx revolution. People have seen 3dfx and they like it. I for one will NOT be buying either SODA nor Red Baron 2 because Sega won't support modern hardware. Joe

It ROCKS on my Sierra Screamin' 3D!!! I don't see what it wouldn't support the 3dfx somehow if it's a D3D game. I can't wait 'til the V2200 cards come out! They're a good bit faster than the 3dfx at many things and remember also that Microsoft first started D3D with the Verite V1000 in mind. I can't wait to see CART Precision Racing run "like buttah" on a V2200-equipped system!!! Loren Team SAVATS/MIRacing

btw, best lap so far is 1:15.xxx with default setup with "deep" tires instead of "normal"

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>> >They will PAY for their corporate stupidity by MEGA-LOST-SALES. >> >- >> I doubt it. By the time SODA is released, the V2200 cards should be >> available, and they will be a hot item this Christmas shopping season. >> Besides, Nascar 2 was, and is still a huge seller, outpacing even Quake, >> even though it supports only the Rendtion cards. >You have a good point. Even without 3Dfx support, N2 is one of the biggest >sellers on the market. I bet that most people who are interested in this >type of game have purchased it whether or not it supports the 3Dfx. I'm >sure that the "MEGA-LOST-SALES" is just a few copies to 3Dfx fanatics (a >blip compared to the huge sales from Nascar and racing fanatics). Having >ranted on I'd like to say that I hope Sierra supports all the major 3D >cards in the future.

At present it is difficult to say how many sales would be lost if a game doesn't support 3Dfx. I wonder how many copies motoracer would have sold if it didn't have 3D support? (which 3Dfx happens to be the larger proportion) Sierra may deem it not worth their while to produce versions of N2 for 3Dfx. This hasn't stopped many companies giving a new lease of life to their products. EF2000 is a good example, that must have sold shitload of copies unaccelerated. 3Dfx ownership is growing. By the time SODA is out how many more people will own the card, not to mention other cards that a rendition only version won't work on. It is also nice to see companies who seem to do things for other reason than pure economics (and who is to say that it would be uneconomic). Dave

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>>>Will the full version of SODA only support Rendition? >>It only says Rendition Ready OOTB on the site. >>Yeah wasn't someone saying that Sierra wasn't using its software just >>to promote its own cards? >>N2 & ICR2 - I can accept, but now 3Dfx has to be the undisputed leader >>in serious 3D card volume. It just makes no sense whatsoever. >They will PAY for their corporate stupidity by MEGA-LOST-SALES. >-- >/ r.revv.ed (rrevved at mindspring dot com)

Same here, although I've bought every Papyrus sim since Indy500, SODA will be the first Papy sim I WILL NOT be buying unless they get a big fat dose of reality and come out with a 3dfx patch. With Nascar2 it was somewhat understandable that they didn't have 3dfx support, besides N2 runs decently fast without accel, but the SODA beta demo just about crawls on my P166 unless I turn down the graphics to the point that they look worse than Test Drive 1 on my olde C-64. No thanks Papy, I'll keep my hopes up for F1 Legends and hope you will support 3dfx in that. Cheers. --John (Fan of ICR2, GP2, N2, NFS, TD2, Stunts etc..) -- Note: my real e-mail address is below. Delete the asterisks. ------------------------------+-------------------------- Seattle, Washington USA. | http://www.***tex.com/~jsilva

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>> >They will PAY for their corporate stupidity by MEGA-LOST-SALES. >> >- >> I doubt it. By the time SODA is released, the V2200 cards should be >> available, and they will be a hot item this Christmas shopping season. >> Besides, Nascar 2 was, and is still a huge seller, outpacing even Quake, >> even though it supports only the Rendtion cards. >You have a good point. Even without 3Dfx support, N2 is one of the biggest >sellers on the market. I bet that most people who are interested in this >type of game have purchased it whether or not it supports the 3Dfx. I'm >sure that the "MEGA-LOST-SALES" is just a few copies to 3Dfx fanatics (a >blip compared to the huge sales from Nascar and racing fanatics). Having >ranted on I'd like to say that I hope Sierra supports all the major 3D >cards in the future.

I bet even non 3dfx fanatics will be returning SODA to the stores as soon as they see how slow the non-accelerated version is, unless they do some serious optimizing on the graphics code from what the demo shows. Probably like most 3dfx owners, when I bought Nascar2 I didn't own my 3dfx since there was not yet a visible leader in the 3D card wars then. Also Nascar2 runs fast even without acceleration support, and SODA is not a NASCAR sim which has a very large fanbase, but a SODA sim which I'm sure has a significantly smaller fanbase. For a company like Sierra to come out with a simulation today with no support for the leading 3D card chipset, and especially if the final ver. of SODA is as slow as the demo, doesn't make sense. I hope they realize the error they are making. Cheers. --John -- Note: my real e-mail address is below. Delete the asterisks. ------------------------------+-------------------------- Seattle, Washington USA. | http://www.***tex.com/~jsilva

Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 22:35:51 GMT About: Re: SODA Off Road Racing Demo Available!!!! Hehe, you sound confused, Joe. Sega <-> Sierra. Although, Sega is being just as dumb with VF2. --- / P150/ 32MB/ 8x/ CL5446 2MB/ RV-Flash3D /

>>But Nascar2 was released last year, before the 3dfx revolution. People >>have seen 3dfx and they like it. I for one will NOT be buying either >>SODA nor Red Baron 2 because Sega won't support modern hardware. >Hehe, you sound confused, Joe. Sega <-> Sierra. >Although, Sega is being just as dumb with VF2. Sorry, too many lame-ass companies, I can't keep them all straight. ;-) Joe