Villenueve and GP2

If you remember the big buzz a year ago was how Villenuve won Spa by practicing on GP2. Maybe he could have won this year if GP2 had wet weather racing!!! Oh well, guess he'll have to wait for GP3 like the rest of us. Will GP3 have wet weather?

> Villeneuve never did, and never will win at SPA Your right about the first thing, but that he will never win on SPA ??, Please check out why Williams are left behind this year, and what to expect of the 1998 Car, then we see.. !! Flemming, Denmark -- My MotorSport : http://home4.inet.tele.dk/flvinge/ufindex.htm

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>>If you remember the big buzz a year ago was how Villenuve won Spa by >>practicing on GP2. Maybe he could have won this year if GP2 had wet >>weather racing!!! Oh well, guess he'll have to wait for GP3 like the >>rest of us. Will GP3 have wet weather? >He didn't win at SPA. Schumacher did. And Jacques will never win in the rain >or SPA. Michael is just too good for that little guy

Oh, cut the guy some slack. Villeneuve won the pole, not the race.

> > He didn't win at SPA. Schumacher did. And Jacques will never win in the rain > > or SPA. Michael is just too good for that little guy > Sorry. you miss 2 words and you sound like a complete idiot. The > comments were made after he won POLE POSITION. Sorry for the mistake. > Sounds like nobody likes Villenueve? Well seems like we hear plenty of F1 fans bad-mouthing JV lately. As far as JV never winning at Spa is concerned, I wouldnt bet on that. Its not the average man that can take pole at spa...I dont care if you do have the best car (which clearly the Williams isnt this year) it takes some skill to get around there. He would have won last year if not for a botched pit stop strategy. Besides, to hear M Shumacher talk about JV you dont exactly get the impression that he views him to be a complete ***er. He was afterall passed by Villeneuve on the outside of the parabolic curve at Portugal. He seemed pretty impressed to me. Its only JV's second year in F1 and he is doing pretty well in spite of the fact that he has made mistakes and the fact that the Williams car has let him down on more than one occasion. Thomas

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>> Villeneuve never did, and never will win at SPA >Your right about the first thing, but that he will >never win on SPA ??, Please check out why Williams >are left behind this year, and what to expect of the >1998 Car, then we see.. !! >Flemming, Denmark >-- > My MotorSport : http://home4.inet.tele.dk/flvinge/ufindex.htm

We expect they will not get enough power from that Renault test engine

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> > > Sounds like nobody likes Villenueve? > > Well seems like we hear plenty of F1 fans bad-mouthing JV lately. As far > > as JV never winning at Spa is concerned, I wouldnt bet on that. Its not > > the average man that can take pole at spa...I dont care if you do have > > the best car (which clearly the Williams isnt this year) it takes some > > skill to get around there. He would have won last year if not for a > > botched pit stop strategy. Besides, to hear M Shumacher talk about JV > > you dont exactly get the impression that he views him to be a complete > > ***er. He was afterall passed by Villeneuve on the outside of the > > parabolic curve at Portugal. He seemed pretty impressed to me. Its only > > JV's second year in F1 and he is doing pretty well in spite of the fact > > that he has made mistakes and the fact that the Williams car has let him > > down on more than one occasion. > > Thomas > JV sux... JV go home ! :)))) > -- > Bertrand

Who would you have replace him? Ukyo Katayma for williams '98?

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> > Sounds like nobody likes Villenueve? > Well seems like we hear plenty of F1 fans bad-mouthing JV lately. As far > as JV never winning at Spa is concerned, I wouldnt bet on that. Its not > the average man that can take pole at spa...I dont care if you do have > the best car (which clearly the Williams isnt this year) it takes some > skill to get around there. He would have won last year if not for a > botched pit stop strategy. Besides, to hear M Shumacher talk about JV > you dont exactly get the impression that he views him to be a complete > ***er. He was afterall passed by Villeneuve on the outside of the > parabolic curve at Portugal. He seemed pretty impressed to me. Its only > JV's second year in F1 and he is doing pretty well in spite of the fact > that he has made mistakes and the fact that the Williams car has let him > down on more than one occasion. > Thomas

I think you made a good point about pit stops. Clearly Williams has made some bone-head pit/tire decisions this year. Maybe I should say that Schummi has made the right decisions. I think the Williams car is definetly(sp) competitive enough. I think JV is a great driver, who isn't that good in the wet. Is CART to blame? Ever notice how boring a wet CART race is? However, I believe Schummi is still the better driver, w/ JV right behind him. I think kleinmacher (sorry, stupid attempt for a nick name for Ralph) is pretty good along w/ Fisssi, but Jordan makes the same bad pit choices Williams does. Had to throw in Jordan; my favorite team! Next year should be very interesting, Peugoet to Prost/new Mugen-Honda to Jordan, More reliable(?) Ford for a promising Stewart team; 14 gazillion new Jos fans.

>>> > He didn't win at SPA. Schumacher did. And Jacques will never win in the >>> > rain or SPA. Michael is just too good for that little guy You mean Schumy's tires. Once JVs team chose the right tires, JV was able to set fast lap. And JV did qualify first. Lately, I've seen some anti-JV stuff. Not sure why; Is it true that F1 fans have a tendency to kick their athletes in the teeth when they are down? Fact is, JV is down. But I don't think he driving worse than he was last year at this time, when seemingly everybody liked him. I remember Schumy, the "Genius of the Wet", take himself out of the race int he rain at Monaco last year- remember that one? At least JV could blame somebody behind him for taking himself out, not the rain. Point is, everybody has his lousy moments in the rain. JV had a nearly as stupid moment in the rain last year at... Argentina, wasn't it? Since then, I thought he's done OK in it. But in Argentina, I think it was clearly a lack of experience; he was a rookie in the F1 car then. Anyway, Schumy is almost everything he is made out to be by his fans, near godly. But JV is not as bad as people are bleating about here and in RAF1. If anything, he is a lot smoother than Schumy; less dramatic, less "opposite lock", but he gets the speed. So did his Frenzen buddy. But where did he qual?

Why doesn't anyone talk about ferrari's anti-skid device? I think that's at least part of the reason why MS is 5 seconds faster than everybody on wet weather. Of course he's a great driver too. A. Renault

>>>> > He didn't win at SPA. Schumacher did. And Jacques will never win in the >>>> > rain or SPA. Michael is just too good for that little guy >You mean Schumy's tires. Once JVs team chose the right tires, JV was >able to set fast lap. And JV did qualify first. Ahh they run the same brand of tire, it just Jacques and his team are too dumb to make a decision Pole? With the best car in the field, I can win the pole by a sec NO look at Jeff Gordon. people making fun of him at Daytona and Bristol And Mr. Excellent Jacques took himself out in France You don't need opposite lock with the best car Frentzen is the number 2 driver. HELLO, look at Irvine, how come he is so far off Schumi's time

>Why doesn't anyone talk about ferrari's anti-skid device? I think >that's at least part of the reason why MS is 5 seconds faster than >everybody on wet weather. Of course he's a great driver too. McLaren has it too (the device), but where are they? I would like to *** about it too, but since it's not illegal (since his last throttle-control disqualification disqualification in 94 MS wouldn't try his luck again:), kudos to both teams of engineers/designers. Seems Ferrari has the right package for the '97 title (unfortunately IMHO): EDO2 engine, lighter chassis, throttle control, MS to drive, Irvine as anti-Frentzen device ... :) Yet imho this Shumi frenzy is good for the sport, a 'hypermediatized' hero is always a good attraction for the casual race viewer. Hehe, just thought of it: "The Schumachers - the Boyz Band of Formula 1!" ;) To clarify my point, I don't want a guy who quietly drives with no opposition to win. I want fights. Not crashes, but guys who overtake, who push, keep setting their fastest laps chasing someone or running away. This season I can cite about 10 drivers who are real racers, compared to MS who now acts as a driver (albeit a very good one). OK, I have watched the '97 season for free so far (yet unwillingly invested a lot of nerves into the commercial breaks), but in october I am back to France, and I want fights for my money. This is F1, not a rallye. Karim

> > He didn't win at SPA. Schumacher did. And Jacques will never win in the rain > > or SPA. Michael is just too good for that little guy > Sorry. you miss 2 words and you sound like a complete idiot. The > comments were made after he won POLE POSITION. Sorry for the mistake. > Sounds like nobody likes Villenueve? Hey, whose saying that nobody likes Villeneuve?! Villeneuve is the best and he will win the championship this year, mark my words. crasher

Hi, hi, hi - good joke! Axel

Yeah, but he hasnt won in style like Damon did, we all know that the Williams is the best car, but Villenueuve is NOT the best driver, I would rank him third or fourth, Behind Michael and Damon. ----------------------------------------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------

ESPY nomination for joke of the year

I do!!!! > > He didn't win at SPA. Schumacher did. And Jacques will never win in the rain > > or SPA. Michael is just too good for that little guy > Sorry. you miss 2 words and you sound like a complete idiot. The > comments were made after he won POLE POSITION. Sorry for the mistake. > Sounds like nobody likes Villenueve?

From what I understand, there won't be a GP3. At least not from Microprose. They lost the FIA license from what I understand. Ubisoft is releasing an F1 simulator next. Also, anyone tried the title "Power F1"? I've seen it, but like GP2 so much, I've been skeptical to try it and waste 50$. Thanks.

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> From what I understand, there won't be a GP3. At least not from > Microprose. They lost the FIA license from what I understand. > Ubisoft is > releasing an F1 simulator next. Also, anyone tried the title "Power > F1"? > I've seen it, but like GP2 so much, I've been skeptical to try it and > waste > 50$. Thanks.

Microprose never made the game GP2, Geoff Crammond just used them to publish his game, and hasalways been doing so. Power f1 is far from as realistic as gp2... and so is ubisoft's f1... they are not completely sims.. but aimed for people that wants to drive a f1 car with out fiddeling so much with the car setup.. Ubisoft told that they are not as advanced as gp2 in the car setup, because they meen it will make the game less playable.