GP2 on a P-233?

Does anybody know if a P-233 MMX will enable me to run GP2 with evrything on in high-res? I'm considering this as a low cost alternative to to a Pentium II, but I don't want to go for it if it does not have the horse-power. Mike

I'm using a K6 200 (overclocked to 233)& 32Mb SDRam and gp2 runs fantastic. You can run with all graphics on, all textures on, at max frame rate, on all tracks (even Monaco). However, the CPU occupancy will be above 100 in some places (especially Monaco), but this is unavoidable. There is still no cpu (even a 266) which can run gp2 at full graphics, at max fps, and keep the cpu occupancy below 100 all the time? However, gp2 still runs fantastic, and even when the cpu did go above 100 there was not too much noticeable slow down? If you turn off the sky it does make a difference? d:-) **Peter**

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> I'm using a K6 200 (overclocked to 233)& 32Mb SDRam and gp2 runs > fantastic. > You can run with all graphics on, all textures on, at max frame rate, > on all tracks (even Monaco). > However, the CPU occupancy will be above 100 in some places > (especially Monaco), but this is unavoidable. There is still no cpu > (even a 266) which can run gp2 at full graphics, at max fps, and keep > the cpu occupancy below 100 all the time? > However, gp2 still runs fantastic, and even when the cpu did go above > 100 there was not too much noticeable slow down? If you turn off the > sky it does make a difference?

I have to agree with most of this. I just fitted a M-tech F1 534 mobo with K6 233 o/clocked to 266 with 32meg sdram, Et6000 video card and LOTS of cooling<S> and GP2 runs great. I was using a Cyrix P200+ and that was good but this is so smooth. In graphics setup the estimate always says greater than 25fps available even with sky and smoke on insvga with everything selected. In real life at monaco with all on and setting the frame at 21fps gives the sort of play i got with a p166+ and 14fps so its ok but not good. Take the sky and smoke away....who needs it anyway.... and 21 fps gives less than 100% occ and real smooth play at all circuits except Monaco at which with these settings is still very good but occ rises above 100% in a few places. Its not so much the extra graphics that please me but the smoothness when driving that comes with the extra fps. Mike. -- mike turner at Herne Bay. Kent. UK. using OUIBETA ver 1.7.9.4 09:05 on 08/17/97 From sunny Herne Bay, Kent.UK. mailable also at

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> > Does anybody know if a P-233 MMX will enable me to run GP2 with > > everything on in high-res? > You can run with all graphics on, all textures on, at max frame rate, on > all tracks (even Monaco). > However, the CPU occupancy will be above 100 in some places (especially > Monaco), but this is unavoidable.

If you have S3 chip you can install utility called "Display Doctor". Increases framerate 10 to 15%. Also still keep sky and smoke off. Game still sucks. Sorry if I interupted. Now back to your previously scheduled program... =8>)- -DG-

>Does anybody know if a P-233 MMX will enable me to run GP2 with >evrything on in high-res? I'm considering this as a low cost >alternative to to a Pentium II, but I don't want to go for it if it does >not have the horse-power. >Mike I'm running it on a standard P200 with no sky textures or mirror textures. It runs like a dream under these conditions. With all textures on, I get around 14fps, which is still playable, but I prefer the extra smoothness and I don't really miss the clouds. Given this, I really can't see that you are going to have a problem with such a stonking processor. Cheers, Andrew

Your not still slagging off gp2 are you? I seem to remember you, and others, stating gp2 would be superceded as the no'1 F1 sim, when F1(Eidos) was due out, and when Formula 1(Psygnosis) came out, and then there was Power F1 (Eidos). (that may not be the correct order?) But hey, you know what? they *all* turned out to be not even in the same league as gp2. Sure, Formula 1 is good for a *blast* ala arcade style zip round a circuit. But none of them have the same style, content, or sheer realism that a *sim* needs. So GP2 is still no'1......until gp3? d:~)) **Peter**

On Sat, 16 Aug 1997 18:33:58 -0500, Michael Bara >Does anybody know if a P-233 MMX will enable me to run GP2 with >evrything on in high-res? I'm considering this as a low cost >alternative to to a Pentium II, but I don't want to go for it if it does >not have the horse-power. >Mike I have the AMD233-K6 Chip and you get 25+fps with everything on.I had a p200mmx before but the amd is much better.PS mage sure you get the biggest heat sink and fan as the chip runs hot in gp2.

Hi All, I have a P233MMX cpu, I run all graphic's less the sky, I set my frame at a low 15fps but can go as high as 21.3fps but that eats into PO, I would recommend a setting of 17fps.

> Your not still slagging off gp2 are you? Next question. Reread your posts sometime. I dont think my main argument was comparing GP2 to other F1 sims. They weren't out at the time I was runnin' my trap. My main arguement was that you can't race at an acceptable framerate thats worth playing on the fastest computer to date and that it was shy of any useful utilities and features. Anyway, Im not gona start to compile my views on non supported software again. It aint worth it. GP2 will be a great sim someday when pentiums are a thing of the past, but by then, "something" _WILL_ be out that will be a completed version of a great F1 sim. Ive seen 'em, they suck, doesnt mean it'll make GP2 run any faster on my P200 and even if your argument _was_ valid, dont credit yourself too much for only a few weeks. When a 'puter that can make me fly down the streets of Monico against the best in the world via modem and make me feel like Im there after spending over 3 grand on a system, then come talk to me, right now, get a clue. ICR2 and N2 do those for me. I only practice GP2 to learn the courses. Hungary, 1:16, is that any good? Not as good as Shumacher's low 1:14 last Sunday. I hope that "GP3" adds to the realism,....we'll see,..... when I pirate it<g>. GP3? You mean GP2 part 2! =8>)- -DG-

Don't play it then. -- Dave Bowers

First of all: you guys both start off by saying that (quote) Hell! I can do that too! But obviously the question is whether it goes with PO below 100%. NOT estimated famerate is important, NOT "noticeable" slowdowns. We need HARD FACTS: put everything on in SVGA and watch PO during a lap at Monaco starting at the end of the grid. Only when PO stays below 100% with 25fps selected and in every place of the circuit, you can say that your processor can run GP2 "full detail realtime 25fps". OK Let's be generous and accept that smoke from spinning tires or a crash or failure should not be taken into account (you need a CRAY for that :-) ) Post the results! BTW: I know you don't need that kind of detail to enjoy the game, but it is what people expect when they ask whether "the game runs smooth with all details" Then Mark says: Don't really understand you... You can get that kind of smoothness on a P200+ as well by simply turning the graphics a little down. Then how can you say that it's not the extra graphics which make the difference? A contradiction if you ask me... :-) JoH =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= When everything else failed, we can still become im- mortal by making an enormous blunder.... John Kenneth Galbraith =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

>>If you have S3 chip you can install utility called "Display Doctor". >>Increases framerate 10 to 15%. >Well...that's the theory! But I have a Diamond Stealth 2MB VRAM (S3 968) and I >didn't notice even the slightest improvement... I'll back up the previous poster by saying that I usually note framerate improvements similar to that he mentioned on my Stealth 2MB DRAM Video (s3 868). This in DOS games with framerate counters. Since I can't get Scitech to run correctly in Win95, I can't say if it helps there.