First Impression - NASCAR 2 Fantasy Tracks

>Warning! long rambling post ahead.... Where do I get these tracks? Joe

Warning! long rambling post ahead.... I just spent my first two hours or so with the fantasy tracks and here is some info and comments about them. First these new tracks are so different from what I'm used to seeing that they are difficult to describe, so please bear with me. There are two tracks, Red Rock and Bull Run. Red Rock is sort of a high banked super speedway, with the big catch being that it has right and left hand turns. This makes it extremely difficult to drive at first, at least for me, because I've never turned to the right on extremely high banking. Red rock is set in the mountains with most of the turns seemingly blasted through a mountain side. My favorite section of the track is a long sweeping 165 - 175 mph left hand turn that leads out to a long downhill straight-away where you can get up to approx. 220 mph. The challenge here is making it through the next corner, an extremely high banked, tight left, that is very treacherous. My best speed here so far is 161.446 mph. Bull Run is more of a road course, set in a valley surrounded by mountains. It also has some weird turns and another one of those high banked right turns. There are some high speed straights (190+) and also two hairpins. Very difficult to say the least. My best so far 123.012 mph. Finally both tracks have a lot of new and great looking textures. The grass texture in Bull Run is the most lush green I've ever seen in a Papy sim and I am wondering if it might work at some other tracks. Maybe this is also why these tracks are a whole new challenge for the frame rate impaired. I imagine you'll have to turn many off on a slow machine. All in all I guess I like them, I think I like Bull Run the best so far, maybe Red Rock will grow on me. Oh, I forgot to mention, both tracks must use a lot of memory, when I tried to run them in Win95 the first time, neither would load with my standard 16,384 pif. I got an error saying "unable to load complete track description". So I just opened a DOS box and ran it that way. I also tried them in DOS 6.22 and they load fine in that also. This is with 32 megs of ram. I fear the worst for those with less, but hopefully I am wrong. Matt Howell

I find the fantasy tracks a bit too silly to be taken seriously myself, especially Red Rock. I like Bull Run a lot, especially the "reverse Laguna-Seca Corkscrew" segment. If only they didn't add that silly Dega right-hander it would be a really nice track, but I guess that's what fantasy is supposed to be. Both are real graphics-intensive for me. Running renddma I get brief pauses whenever I exit the last turn before the front straightaway. On Fri, 15 Aug 1997 02:56:01 -0400, Matt Howell >Warning! long rambling post ahead.... > I just spent my first two hours or so with the fantasy tracks and here >is some info and comments about them. Bill. BillC on Hawaii http://www.synapse.net/~crankstr/

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> > >Warning! long rambling post ahead.... > > Where do I get these tracks? > They can be found at www.nascarnet.com/pitshop/main.htmlThey are both > very demanding on my system, until the Rendition card kicks in. I have > a 133 Pentium with 32 MB and 512L2. They are undriveable until the 3D > card speeds things up to 30 fps or so, until I hit another area and it > gets extremely choppy. Around the pits and in certain sections of the > tracks it does this. Bull Run is not nearly as bad as Red Rocks. The > cows on the side of the road look real. The scenery is awesome. > Does anyone think that an Intel 200 MMX overdrive would speed this up?

Scott, I am running a standard 200 Mhz pentium and rendition card and have no problems running the two tracks. At Bullrun there is one little hesitation coming out of last turn and heading down main straight. Other than that, graphics is very smooth dave thayer

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What are the odds that the tracks would run better in win95 than on a dos reboot? I love rendition.... -- Mike's Nascar World http://www.netins.net/showcase/mpete/nascar.html Stop on by, what can it hurt?

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% What are the odds that the tracks would run better in win95 than on a dos % reboot? % I love rendition.... None! <G> -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

>I am running N2 on a Pentium 100 w/64 MB of ram, no rendition, and both >tracks look awesome with all detail turned on. N2 must maximize its >performance from straight-up RAM. I must admit I'm pretty impressed with the gaphics (and N2 performance) on the new tracks. I mean I'd love to have 3dfx support - as it is I have to turn road and grass tectures off - but unlike most games at least N2 is stil playable at 640x480 on a fast Pentium. RedRock is incredible - I didn't think N2 could do graphics that good. Joe

I am running N2 on a Pentium 100 w/64 MB of ram, no rendition, and both tracks look awesome with all detail turned on. N2 must maximize its performance from straight-up RAM. Walk Walker

says... If you are talking about my odds of running better in Win95, well it's true. I don't know if it has anything to do with the beta drivers or what, but it does. The two tracks are a little jumpy when I use dos, but in win95, they are smooth. So that means on of two things: 1. The new drivers are excellent for Win95 2. The new drivers make it run like a slug in dos Hmmmmmmmm....... -- Mike's Nascar World http://www.netins.net/showcase/mpete/nascar.html Stop on by, what can it hurt?

I'll give you odds of about 1000 to 1...................AGAINST!! -- Bruce. (at work....well, at "place of employment", anyway!)

Boy did I miss the boat on these tracks, my ISP chose a bad time for their USENET server to crash! (and the same thing happened when the first patch came out for N2!), I guess I'am always the last to know! :( Anyway, I downloaded both tracks earlier today and I'am impressed. My system is no speed demon, a P120, so I had to do without a whole lot of the graphics (a 3d card will be on my Christmas wish list). So far I really like the Red Rock track, it reminds me of a roller coaster, I like the name I heard for it too, "The Widower"! Bull Run is neat too, the last turn is a lot of fun! Those high banked right-hand turns will take some getting used to! It's times like this I wish there was a track editor so I could create some weird and wonderful tracks like these! Best, John P.S. Did anyone notice the church at the top of the banking at Red Rock, LOL!

Great tracks work excellent with the Pits new touring carset/update patch!