The Pits Touring Car Championship install trouble

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> I am having trouble getting the TPTCC installed. I have installed a > fresh Nascar2 game and applied both patches to it. I have also > installed all the ICR2 tracks into this new N2 tracks directory. I pass > the install test and get more than half way through the install when > around 66% of it is installed I get an error message saying see Error > Code Reference 4 (or something like that). Anyone have any ideas? > Anyone from the Pits reading this? > TIA > Eric

Eric, I had the same exact error the first time around, also with a clean install of N2, and the patches, and then the converted tracks. I thought about it and decided to try it again with my system clocked back to the failure because the only other problem I have ever had related to over clocking was the DOS install of a couple of games I rented, like Descent 2, during a hardware check routine. BTW, I am also not a big fan of the install routine, all those runtime files could cause some people problems and they certainly waste space on my hard drive. Matt Howell

I had this same problem, along with .DLL and incorrect file errors. I did the install again, double checking my steps, and the third time I tried the install (with complete reinstalls of N2 and patches) it worked. Nothing different, the same steps, and it worked. My comment on the patch: Excellent work on the patch, notable improvement on N2, but I got something to say about the install routines -- Stay the hell out of my Windows system directory!! You can mess with anything you want in the actual program directory (folders for the WIN95 groupies) but you may NOT mess with my Windows or Windows/System files, they are not yours to stick your random files into! At LEAST ask permission! How do you know what I have installed or what you may wreck by dumping a bunch of .DLL and the like in there? Unless you are going to test and debug the install routines on many systems configured differently, stick with simple, easy to modify batch file install programs. You don't know my system, you don't know anything about my system configuration. I do. If I can view the installation steps, in detail, I can modify them if necessary. As to the troubleshooting section: here's the names of some files, move them around until it works (about 22 files or so) does not cut it. And no uninstall program. Plenty of disclaimer, I can see why. As I said, excellent work on the patch, the install program leaves a LOT to be desired. Robin

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>>I am having trouble getting the TPTCC installed. I have installed a >>fresh Nascar2 game and applied both patches to it. I have also >>installed all the ICR2 tracks into this new N2 tracks directory. I pass >>the install test and get more than half way through the install when >>around 66% of it is installed I get an error message saying see Error >>Code Reference 4 (or something like that). Anyone have any ideas? >>Anyone from the Pits reading this? >I had this same problem, along with .DLL and incorrect file errors. >I did the install again, double checking my steps, and the third time >I tried the install (with complete reinstalls of N2 and patches) it >worked. Nothing different, the same steps, and it worked. >My comment on the patch: >Excellent work on the patch, notable improvement on N2, but I got >something to say about the install routines -- >Stay the hell out of my Windows system directory!! (snip)

Somebody else will have to deal with the 'Error Code Reference 4'. On the subject of installation and system files, please remember that at the moment TPTCC is in beta test. The install procedure is being changed to remove the need for so many run-time files. The cause of most of the problems with the installation seem to be caused by a chain of problems to do with Microsoft's own problems with date stamps and version stamps of OLE DLLs. The files being copied are those that Microsoft provide. With respect, a batch file would not really help as you would have to check the version of every single DLL, and this type of problem can occur with any VB program installation. As I hinted above the solution seems to be to stop VB using OLE controls during installation and hence remove the need for so many run-time files. Regards Dave Noonan

hay dave I can't seem to get hings to work. first I got the dll error message so I removed all the files on the list and re-ran the runtime file and the instulation file then when I ran the tptcc.exe file I got an error massege "the file 'TYPELIB.DLL' is out of date. this program requires a newer version" I don't see how this is possible seeing as I used the find files or folders thing to elimate all the TYPELIB.DLL files before I did this. In other words Im using the TYPELIB.DLL file that the runtime.exe file gave me so how could it possibly be out of date? I have DELL 200 MMX 32 ram NOT a pro or pro II I have tried installing this over and over, removing the TYPELIB.DLL file many times. please help -thanx-

If you have any experience using Win 95 explorer (file manager), try using the instructions for installling the Pits touring car patch manually, without the installer. Directions are posted at the Pits web site. I had dll problems too, but their instructions worked.