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Proof of Huggins cheating

8 posts by 6 people · 22 Jul 1997 - 25 Jul 1997

Brad Dawso 22 Jul 1997#373816
As far as the replay is concerned this is old news as I told you guys before. Huggins straight away speed is unusual on most replays. Just like there are guys that have unusual corner speeds. I dont know the answers here. I would however caution you against using speed benchmarks as proof of cheating! If you do you are saying one of two things either you think Dave will never hit 190 at 50 or whatever it was -or- If he does he is a proven cheater. If hawaii was around I'd bet he could hit it in 6 months!. I have only been on hawaii for about 9 months and I remeber when 133 was blazing at Bristol. I have seen you guys doing 196 s at MIS at 120. If you had done this a year ago you would have been accused of being the big ole cheaters. I just wish this stuff would end. If you decide not to join a pickup that Huggins is in that is your perogative, but how can you aske him not to join an open race just because your in it? It might be the only race up. I am really surprised if Huggins tried to wreck you on purpose. I have been in three races where people went mental and tried to take him out so If he lost it I guess I could see it but its still difficult to imagine. Remember warps are worse at warp speed! I think you guys are getting to worked up about this whole thing. I was just LUCKY enough to win only my second and third races ever and I won them 2 in a row (all 3 at Loudon) I was very pumped. Somebody made a joke that I was cheating. Which of course I can assure you Im not. I hit a 132.968 (by far my best) in practice. But Josh can blow my doors off! If I was cheating purely based on my speed, then it logicaly follows that he is cheating! I dont think he is cheating and I know Im not. I went from 128s to 132s without a SINGLE change to a setup created by TCE, chassis or tires. Just practice of a line shown to me by Mike Lentz. You guys are all great fast racers I think your wasting to much energy on what Huggins does. Just an opinion from one "loser"
It's not just is straightawy speeds it's how his car accerlertes and how he can get in a wreck and have his car demolished but a lap later he has no damage and running down a 2 or more car draft by a sec or more a lap and no adve will never do a 190.5 at 50 degrees because it is totally impossiable to do legally and we were doing 196's at Mich last year by the way,plus from what I have heard Huggy was caught and suspended last year for cheating and I do remember him coming on as Tester01after that and he would be able to start a race by himself and it would post 201 to 202 laptimes by himself.He was doing that for Hawaii to help catch cheaters,but from what I have heard from Hawaii he is not involved with them anymore and he's up to it again and they just can't figure out to stop him or how to detect it. Robert Platts GT86
Mike Radl 23 Jul 1997#373907
> I have a little file for everyone to look at.I was in a race That binary file doesn't belong in a UseNet discussion group. Hmmm... that's kinda like breaking the rules. Not a good thing to do. That's definitely breaking the rules. I notice you broke another UseNet etiquette *rule* by posting Dave Matson's private email in a public forum. Robert, I raced pickups along time ago. I remember you as a good clean driver. Don't become a monster while chasing one. It doesn't help your argument if you start breaking a bunch of rules while complaining about another rule breaker. Just let it go... It's no thing, man. Let Papy deal with Huggins in their own way. BTW, you don't have to race with him. I've been on Hawaii for almost 14 months and I've only raced with him a couple of times AFAIK. Mike Radler Member - Hawaii Ace League http://www.dithots.org/hal
myke 23 Jul 1997#373908
Someone is cheating... You appeal to the people in charge. You don't get any satisfaction. I guess the next step is bite the ear off the cheater. If that doesn't work, bite the other ear. You won't have to deal with HIS cheating anymore. mykey
ARCA BOB 23 Jul 1997#373909
This is old news. Sure, I've seen things that go beyond the scope of "normal", especially at Dega. Cheating? Probably, as cheating is defined. But this has been public knowledge and/or speculation for at least 6 months. I gladly race against Mr. Huggins because a) he has never wrecked me and is always courteous when in my proximity...and b) because of the challenge...to keep up with Huggins at Dega is like keeping up with Dave at Atlanta, or Schill at Bristol, or Robert at Darlington, etc. If they beat me, it's 3 points...if I beat them it's 3 points. Big deal. The challenge is in running with the fastest cleanly and gentlemanly. If someone is cheating, that's their problem....ultimately it will come back to haunt them. Hawaii is just a prep for the NRO...when I suspect things will really get serious. At that time I am confident the organizers will be less than forgiving of all who try to circumvent the standards of fair competition. Respectfully, Trevor Keane ARCA_BOB/DirtDevil on Hawaii
myke 24 Jul 1997#374018
Quoted text (13 lines)> Someone is cheating... > You appeal to the people in charge. > You don't get any satisfaction. > I guess the next step is bite the ear off the cheater. > If that doesn't work, bite the other ear. > You won't have to deal with HIS cheating anymore. > mykey
This post drew an email from someone named Robert Huggins.. All this time I thought we were talking about Jody. Just kidding Jody :) mykey
SimRaci 25 Jul 1997#374094
sheesh...I thought we were talking about leaky diapers... =P Marc

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