Yellow Flags in N1 and N2

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> How accurate a representation of 'true' Nascar racing is the use of > yellow flags in Nascar 1 and 2 ? > In N1, I found that I only had to so much as 'nudge' another car and > the yellow would come out. However, I have recently installed N2, and > have seen cars spin out and take other cars with them, _without_ a > yellow flag appearing (btw, i have got yellow flags switched on )! > Which is more accurate ? I haven't seen many Nascar races (the sport > hasn't exactly got a high profile here in the UK), but I feel that the > reality must lie somewhere between these two extremes. > Also,why is there such an obvious difference between N1 and N2 ? > Karl

This was one of my major complaints about n1. A light tap to the AI would almost always bring out a caution. I'm pretty sure that papy new there was a problem with that and addressed it in N2. In real NASCAR racing, competitors can spin out or crash without a yellow flag, as long as there is no debris on the track, and the cars involved get moving again. So this is a fair representation of the real thing that we find in N2. It isn't perfect, but it works out well, i think.

How accurate a representation of 'true' Nascar racing is the use of yellow flags in Nascar 1 and 2 ? In N1, I found that I only had to so much as 'nudge' another car and the yellow would come out. However, I have recently installed N2, and have seen cars spin out and take other cars with them, _without_ a yellow flag appearing (btw, i have got yellow flags switched on )! Which is more accurate ? I haven't seen many Nascar races (the sport hasn't exactly got a high profile here in the UK), but I feel that the reality must lie somewhere between these two extremes. Also,why is there such an obvious difference between N1 and N2 ? Karl

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> This was one of my major complaints about n1. A light tap to the AI > would almost always bring out a caution. I'm pretty sure that papy new > there was a problem with that and addressed it in N2. In real NASCAR > racing, competitors can spin out or crash without a yellow flag, as long > as there is no debris on the track, and the cars involved get moving > again. So this is a fair representation of the real thing that we find > in N2. It isn't perfect, but it works out well, i think.

On a funny side note.. I hear the spotter say wreck in turn 3. I get there and I have to drive over fenders, bumpers, tires bouncing around and who knows what else, but no car around and no yellow flag. What do they classify as debris? A whole engine lying on the track? -- I think people can figure out the spam filter to reply to me.. Kel Calgary, Alberta CANADA

One reason the N2 yellows are better represented is that Winston Cup driver Bobby Labonte helped with N2.

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> On a funny side note.. I hear the spotter say wreck in turn 3. I get > there and I have to drive over fenders, bumpers, tires bouncing around > and who knows what else, but no car around and no yellow flag. What do > they classify as debris? A whole engine lying on the track? > -- > I think people can figure out the spam filter to reply to me.. > Kel > Calgary, Alberta CANADA

You have experiences the phantom crash. You were the dialer in a multiplayer race. Happens alot on the parade lap. Or you were racing and you just got passed. The communication between systems doesn't include all of the other cars. It's just a subset, about 5 in front and 5 behind you. If you get passed, the car that was 5 in front of you is now 6 in front of you and therefore doesn't get sent to you any more (until it becomes one of the 10) The program doesn't immediatly determine that the car isn't supposed to be in the packet and thinks it's just late coming in. This is where the prediction code kicks in. It appears to let the car continue in it's previous direction. In a corner this means towards the wall. The program will give up on the car after a few packets so MOST of the time the car just disappeares. Sometimes however the car hits the wall before it disappears. Thus the depris. The car itself will disappear before you get to it's location so you will never SEE the car. The accident is just in the view of the client, because it has inaccurate information. The host however knows exactly where ALL of the AI is at ALL times to it applies damage to the car only when it deems it proper. The Host doesn't know the true location and status of the client's car until that information is sent to the host. The host accepts the data and goes about its calculations. Due to latency, and related bandwidth there are limits to how "perfect" the multi-player racing can be via modem. I.E. Stuff Happens mykey