Need Info on F1 sims

I need some info and opinions about any good F1 simulators that are available. I have Nascar and ICR2 from papyrus and they are really good because they have real drivers, real cars, real tracks and a real season. So I'm looking for something along the same lines as the Papyrus games and not crappy stuff like Sega's Daytona game. I want the real deal. So give me game names and the publishers and any and all pros and cons for each game. Thanks for your time.

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> I need some info and opinions about any good F1 simulators that are > available. I have Nascar and ICR2 from papyrus and they are really > good because they have real drivers, real cars, real tracks and a real > season. So I'm looking for something along the same lines as the > Papyrus games and not crappy stuff like Sega's Daytona game. I want > the real deal. So give me game names and the publishers and any and > all pros and cons for each game. Thanks for your time.

If you want a real F1 sim, then it is realy simple, I just say Formula 1 Grandprix 2 by Microprose. The game is realy fantastic. Good. - Real drivers: - Ultimate AI. - Real car handling - Real car setup, can not get closer to the real thing. - Graphics are superb. - Tracks are realisric. - based on the 1994 season. Bad: - Requries a nuclear power plant of an computer. - No Net play, but multiplayer and Modem play. - Not 3d hardware enhanced. - No weather changes. But the things that is bad can not get up to the ultimate experince that you will get. You must get that game.

For what it's worth, MicroProse Grand Prix 2 has the features you are looking for. It is realistic, with real cars, drivers and a true Formula 1 race season. The AI in the game is very good and that may explain why one comment said it was tough pass the computer drivers -- you have to set up to pass, just like in a real F1 race. I've found the racing to be quite realistic. In addition, there's tons of aftermarket freeware for GP2: car sets,***pits, game graphics, car setups, hotlaps, and much more. Power F1 looks good, but it plays like an arcade game, which I assume is not what you're looking for. Jack

GP2 by Microprose is the only F1 "simulation" available. Others are more "arcade" than GP2. -- Bruce ---- "To be or not to be? Well, I'd rather 'be', if you don't mind!"

IMHO, GP2 by Microprose is the best of all the F1 sims currently. It is a true sim, whereas most, if not all others currently selling are arcade games (Power F1, etc.). GP2 has the best "feel" of any sim I've driven, including ICR2 (which I also race). Many carsets and utilities are also available on the net. Outstanding game. Terry Vreeland--"Dutchman"--MIRacing

internet.fr> writes It's strange. The problem I have with GP2 is it is too easy to pass other cars. My shortcoming in the game is that I keep driving off the track :) -- Dave Bowers

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> internet.fr> writes > >I've got PowerF1, Formula 1 and GP2. > >Formula one is the most beautifull IF you have a 3dfx, GP2 most > >realistic but too much : it's very difficult to pass another driver and > >after a few laps it can be boring. > >My favorite is power F1, because you can play 2 on split screen an you > >can start last and be first after one lap. Not realistic, but very fun. > It's strange. The problem I have with GP2 is it is too easy to pass > other cars. My shortcoming in the game is that I keep driving off the > track :)

If you find that it is too easy to pass other cars, you need to crank up the opposition level. Also, if you go off the track too often, practise more and watch the car balance. GP2 is a real sim and it can be fun too. Just turn on invincible, load up a standard universal setup, hop in the driver seat, start from last place, and have fun. If you want to get serious, run a championship season with 100% race distance, run qualifying, plan your pit strategy, and learn to setup your car to achieve the best speed, will give you the ultimate enjoyment. Power F1 and Formula 1 don't provide you with this. -- Below is a spam bait. 127.0.0.1 is a loopback IP address, which will cause spams to bounce back to its ISP! Use it! Die spammers!

die.nortel.ca> writes I compete in a off-line GP2 league so I can't change the opposition level. I go off the track all the time because I don't know the tracks particularly well. -- Dave Bowers

On Mon, 21 Jul 1997 23:37:56 +0100, Dave Bowers >I compete in a off-line GP2 league so I can't change the opposition >level. Change your league then - I can compete at up to "Ace+4" in the one I run in. At Hockenheim that equates to 1:43 lap times & 345+kph down the straights for the CCs!. OK, I can't compete at those speeds (Ace+3 - 1:44 laps, 340+kph is fast enough for me <g>) but the option is there. Either you need to practice more or you need to drive slower/more cautiously. If you've been at a track for more than an hour and are still having serious problems then you are almost certainly overdriving. Cheers, Richard