T1, T2, GP1, ECCI, TSW

I would like some honest feedback on wheels for nascar2. I originally had a T1 which I liked quite well but for any length of race my legs would become quite uncomfortable. I dont have the optimum computer stand setup. I then went to the TM GP1 which has everything on the wheel. I have been much more comfortable but my lap times have decreased. Are there others that use the GP1 for Nascar 2, and what is your experience with it? Also those who have upgraded to the TSW or ECCI have your lap times improved? I know they are much sturdier, but I am mostly concerned with improving lap times. One last question, I have the Intergraph card and my frame rates are roughly 24 fps with everything on. Would I see marked improvements in lap times if the frame rate were 27-30. If I would what graphics should I turn off? I appreciate any and all responses. Greg Alexander

: I would like some honest feedback on wheels for nascar2. I originally : had a T1 which I liked quite well but for any length of race my legs : would become quite uncomfortable. I dont have the optimum computer : stand setup. I then went to the TM GP1 which has everything on the : wheel. I have been much more comfortable but my lap times have : decreased. Are there others that use the GP1 for Nascar 2, and what : is your experience with it? Also those who have upgraded to the TSW : or ECCI have your lap times improved? I know they are much sturdier, : but I am mostly concerned with improving lap times. One last : question, I have the Intergraph card and my frame rates are roughly 24 : fps with everything on. Would I see marked improvements in lap times : if the frame rate were 27-30. If I would what graphics should I turn : off? I appreciate any and all responses. I can't really comment on whether upgrading your wheel to a more expensive unit would increase your lap times. However, for comfort you could always play with adjusting the height or "angle" of your pedal unit (assuming you still have the pedals from your T1). There is always the possibility that you might see some minor improvements if you install a dedicated and adjustable game card. I found that with Thrustmaster's ACM card that I was able to "control" the throttle and brakes better than with my soundcard port. Regarding frame rate, with better frame rates you should achieve smoother steering/braking/acceleration. This should translate to better laps times. Start by turning off grass/track textures, also say goodbye to the crowds in the grandstand. These tend to be the 2 most frame rate robbers. You might also want to turn off the horizon. You will get a smoother frame rate if you don't have anything set to auto. It takes cpu cycles to check for when to turn on or off graphic features. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Quoted text (22 lines)

> : I would like some honest feedback on wheels for nascar2. I originally > : had a T1 which I liked quite well but for any length of race my legs > : would become quite uncomfortable. I dont have the optimum computer > : stand setup. I then went to the TM GP1 which has everything on the > : wheel. I have been much more comfortable but my lap times have > : decreased. Are there others that use the GP1 for Nascar 2, and what > : is your experience with it? Also those who have upgraded to the TSW > : or ECCI have your lap times improved? I know they are much sturdier, > : but I am mostly concerned with improving lap times. One last > : question, I have the Intergraph card and my frame rates are roughly 24 > : fps with everything on. Would I see marked improvements in lap times > : if the frame rate were 27-30. If I would what graphics should I turn > : off? I appreciate any and all responses. > I can't really comment on whether upgrading your wheel to a more > expensive unit would increase your lap times. However, for comfort you > could always play with adjusting the height or "angle" of your pedal > unit (assuming you still have the pedals from your T1). There is always > the possibility that you might see some minor improvements if you > install a dedicated and adjustable game card. I found that with > Thrustmaster's ACM card that I was able to "control" the throttle and > brakes better than with my soundcard port.

<snip> > -- > **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* > Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Greg, If you wanted to give it a try, you could also use your Formula T1 pedals with the GP1 wheel. Check the date code on the bottom of the wheel. If it's 961218 or later, then you can just plug the GP1 into the pedals, and the pedals into your game port. If it's got an earlier date, you just need to put The Axis Adapter plug between the GP1 and the pedals. Fortunately, the Formula T1 pedals are a little more customizable than the Formula T2 pedals are, so if you find they're unconfortably close, there's a couple of different ways you can get more space. The First, and easiest, would be to remove the pedal roller from the brake shaft, and simply put it back on so that it's on the other side of the shaft, furthest away from the accelerator. The second solution would be to open the pedal unit up, and move the brake pedal over one space to the left. This could be a bit more tricky tho', depending on when your T1 was made. The older T1s are riveted togather, so to do this, you'd have to drill the rivets out, and replace them with screws. Good luck with whatever you decide! Matt ThrustMaster, Inc.

I use the GP1 and CH pedals with good results. > > : I would like some honest feedback on wheels for nascar2. I originally

Quoted text (9 lines)

> > : had a T1 which I liked quite well but for any length of race my legs > > : would become quite uncomfortable. I dont have the optimum computer > > : stand setup. I then went to the TM GP1 which has everything on the > > : wheel. I have been much more comfortable but my lap times have > > : decreased. Are there others that use the GP1 for Nascar 2, and what > > : is your experience with it? Also those who have upgraded to the TSW > > : or ECCI have your lap times improved? I know they are much sturdier, > > : but I am mostly concerned with improving lap times. One last > > : question, I have the Intergraph card and my frame rates are roughly

24

Quoted text (8 lines)

> > : fps with everything on. Would I see marked improvements in lap times > > : if the frame rate were 27-30. If I would what graphics should I turn > > : off? I appreciate any and all responses. > > I can't really comment on whether upgrading your wheel to a more > > expensive unit would increase your lap times. However, for comfort you > > could always play with adjusting the height or "angle" of your pedal > > unit (assuming you still have the pedals from your T1). There is

always

Quoted text (8 lines)

> > the possibility that you might see some minor improvements if you > > install a dedicated and adjustable game card. I found that with > > Thrustmaster's ACM card that I was able to "control" the throttle and > > brakes better than with my soundcard port. > <snip> > > -- > > **************************** Michael E. Carver

************************* > > Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=